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Shortage of Electricity Drives Data Center Talks

Engineer-Poet writes "Per the San Jose Mercury News, competitors such as Google and Yahoo are meeting to discuss the issue of electricity in Silicon Valley. How much of the USA's 4038 billion kWh/year goes into data centers? Enough to make a difference. Data centers are moving out of California to spread the load and avoid a single-point-of-failure scenario. This is a serious matter; as Andrew Karsner (assistant secretary of energy efficiency and renewable energy for the Department of Energy) asked, 'What happens to national productivity when Google goes down for 72 hours?' I'm sure nobody wants to know." From the article: "Concern about electricity pricing and volatility has led Microsoft to talk with its network manufacturers about building more efficient servers. IBM and Hewlett-Packard -- which both build data centers -- want to improve efficiency at the facilities. AMD promotes changing the design of data centers to increase airflow to keep the supercomputers cool."

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  1. Nothing FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    When Google goes down, productivity probably goes up.

  2. Data Center Congregation by Lanu2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    One thing that needs to be looked at with the congregation of data centers is why are they like that? Here in the North East, any kind of bandwidth will cost an arm and a leg compared to the North West area. I've recently been involved in pricing out Colocations for one of our webservers and a simple T1 costs 4-5 times in the N.E. that it costs in the N.W. I'm sure we'd see more evenly distributed data centers if costs we evenly distributed too. How about taking some of those new 40% efficiency solar panels and moving some data centers down to the S.W. for a start?

    1. Re:Data Center Congregation by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about taking some of those new 40% efficiency solar panels and moving some data centers down to the S.W. for a start? A large portion of the power usage goes towards keeping the machines cool. Moving the data centers to a hotter climate to take advantage of the extra sunlight via solar cells is essentially a wash, as the added generatoion capacity is easily eaten up by the additional cooling needs. Actually, it's a net loss, as solar power systems aren't free...
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    2. Re:Data Center Congregation by Lanu2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is warmer in the South West, but the additional heat will be the external ambient outside temperature, not the heat generated from the boxes inside. Effecient insulation will help reduce the electrical cost of cooling associated with the increase of ambient temperature so it will not surpass the generated electricity. Think of root cellars -- they stay cool nearly all year round because of their insulation. Plus with the newer generations of processors radiating less heat, the cooling will be that much less.

      Additionally moving the data centers around will mitigate the single point of failure associated with all our data being held in the North West. Also the location of the data center to the power source has an effect on the price of the power so if the data center is close to a traditional power source (like the Hoover Dam) the power they would end up needing to buy would also be cheaper. The first year or so of operation probably will show the move as a net loss, but the concurrent years will show the savings of moving the data center.

    3. Re:Data Center Congregation by mithluin · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's misleading to say a root cellar works because of insulation: at least as important is exchanging heat freely with the ground around it, which past a few feet down stays at roughly the same temperature year-round.
      See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_cooling_tubes for a more recent take on the same principle.

  3. A Modest Proposal by Giant+Ape+Skeleton · · Score: 4, Funny
    The larger data centers could install "bike farms" -- row upon row of stationary bikes hooked up to huge capacitors.

    Locals and guest workers would be hired to pedal for one-hour shifts each, generating some portion of the needed power and giving a boost to the local economy. Don't think "galley" -- think "self-sustaining"!

    If you'd like to use this idea, please contact me via my Slashdot account. Thanks.

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    1. Re:A Modest Proposal by Joebert · · Score: 4, Funny
      Locals and guest workers would be hired to pedal for one-hour shifts each

      Don't be foolish, this is America we're talking about, call it a Gym and charge admission to use thoose bikes.
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    2. Re:A Modest Proposal by Bozzio · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have one mod point left, but I can't seem to find the "Insane" option.

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    3. Re:A Modest Proposal by Giant+Ape+Skeleton · · Score: 3, Funny

      You really are desperate if you need to rely on that. Desperate like a fox!
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  4. Iceland needs a really big pipe.... by simm1701 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given the abundance of geothermal power in iceland (hence why aluminium ore is transported there for refinement) perhaps a few trucks of fibre need to be put in place - Reykjavik becoming the next big hub for data centers... Lots of power on tap, lots of cooling easily available (ie its bloody freezing there), and the good old days of meetings in hot tubs could come back too - though obviously thermal springs rather than hot tubs....

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  5. Moving makes sense by hcdejong · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google had the right idea when they located their datacenter in Oregon, in a colder climate so they don't need as much air con power, and right next to a big hydro power plant.
    What's the point of locating your datacenter in an area with high ground prices, a history of electric power supply problems and a hot climate?

  6. Sure they do by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You gotta remmeber that, when a blackout hits a huge swath of area, it also brings down the *client machines* in that area as well, so your backup centre doesn't necessairily have to handle your entire peak load.

    Google only needs one of two redundant data centers (one in the East, one in the West, one Mid-Central) to basically ensure they can whether any power loss scenario. If they had 3 such separate centers (which I have no doubt they already have), the only way they're going to be totally off line is if the whole national grid goes down - in which case Google should be the least of your worries if you're a lawmaker.

  7. Re:Actually by BeardsmoreA · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think we all know where 'analists' are pulling their numbers from though...

  8. cooling costs... by archermadness · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I was in a seminar a couple of days ago with a data center ops manager from HP. He stated that in a 20,000 sf data center, every degree they lower the temperature of the A/C costs them $200/hr!

    Another interesting tidbit for comparison: a typical high-density rack puts out something in the neighborhood of 15KW of heat. An average home electric oven puts out about 7-8KW of heat. So each high-density rack is like having two ovens going full blast, 24x7.

  9. Take it out of the mechanical system by jhw539 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The 500 pound gorilla in the corner is that in a typical Silicon Valley datacenter only 50-60% of the power goes to the computers while the other half goes to the support equipment. It does not have to be this way, and things are changing. I have not yet walked into a datacenter that could not cut its total power usage by at least 25% (albeit, in some cases the design damage is done and the simple payback required to make it work would stretch to 4-5 years)(I'm looking at you, datacenters with dozens of 20-30 ton air-cooled compressors on the roof).

    On the gross kWh/yr side, the vast majority of datacenters are unable to use outside air directly for cooling. A 24 hour a day load and they can't 'open the windows' to cool it at night (with appropriate filtration and redundant humidity control lockouts of course)? Come on people! It would even improve reliability (even 70F outdoor air could hold a well configured hot aisle/cold aisle datacenter). But that doesn't help trimming peak load, to do that you have to get the airflow right.

    Efficiency in datacenters starts with just a basic understanding of airflow. You want it very hot behind the racks; you want that hot air to go directly back to your cooling unit not get recirc'd to a rack intake. And you have to have airflow controlled based on the cold aisle temperature to harvest energy savings (fan energy wastage is ridiculous in these things)(oh, and watch out for those server fans that ramp up if you push the cold aisle temp too high - not efficient to provoke a rack of those guys to start screaming).

    You have to know hot aisle / cold aisle to properly design and operate an efficient datacenter, even if that exact configuration is not applicable. Period.

    Of course, its not "that simple," but to the design engineers it certainly should be pretty straightforward work. The information is out there and more is in the pipeline. A good start on the basics of efficient datacenters is available here (full disclosure, I was associated with producing that report, so I am not impartial)(but don't blame me for the blurry graphics - I did not create the pdf!).

    And for god's sake people, quit keeping these places at 55-60F - I'm freezing my butt off and you're making a mockery of your own 'tight humidity control' (70-90% RH at the server intakes, but a good 45% +/- 2% at the air handler return).