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RV Processes Own Fuel on Cross-Country Trip

An anonymous reader writes "Frybrid has realized the dream of Dr. Emmet Brown's Delorean: putting garbage directly into your vehicle, and have it be turned into directly into fuel. This past fall, Frybrid installed a system into a 40' luxury RV that sucked up waste vegetable oil from the back of restaurants, removed the water and filtered it, and then burned the dry and cleaned vegetable oil as fuel. The family drove their converted RV from Seattle to Rhode Island on $47 worth of diesel fuel. Plans are underway for a smaller version of the system to fit in the bed of a pickup truck."

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  1. Only in the USA by ChrisZermatt · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem with this system is that it could only ever work in the good 'ol USA -- the only country where people produce enough used fry-vat oil!

    (by the way, they've been doing exactly this for years in other places, like Germany...)

  2. This is nothing new... by norite · · Score: 5, Informative
    Diesel engines were designed to run on vegetable oil in the first place; Rudolph Diesel demonstrated his engine at the World's Fair in Paris back in 1900; His engine was running on peanut oil.
    In fact my own car has been adapted to run on vegetable oil, (either used or fresh) I collect used oil and filter it in my back yard, down to 5 microns. My car runs just great on it, absolutely no difference in performance, and I'm sill getting the same mileage, around 45mpg (US) or 55mpg(UK). My car's exhaust smells a LOT nicer (sort of a popcorn, or hot oil 'flavor'), and vegetable oil is a cleaner burning fuel, so emissions are lower. And of course, it's carbon neutral :o) I guess there are enough takeaways, restaurants and other food places in my town to power at least 100 diesel cars; in fact I have more oil than I can process right now, so I'm looking to expand my filtering operations.
    A friend of mine is doing the same, at his place of work, they have a canteen, and they're getting through more oil than he needs. the places that we're getting it from, are more than happy for us to take it away, because they have to pay to have it taken away, and we'll do it for free...

    now that I've gone veggie, I won't be going back. The heat exchanger kit that is installed in my car can easily be taken out and fitted into my next car. It's a win win situation:

    We're using a waste product that was grown locally

    It's cheaper (as in free!)

    We're not funding Big Oil, who are themselves supporting dodgy, corrupt, undemocratic and/or unstable regimes.

    There are some strong economic, political and ethical reasons to run on vegetable oil. For me, it's a no-brainer :o)

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    -- Fuck Beta
  3. Re:Supply chain costs by blakestah · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's scads of papers on biodiesel, its efficiency, and cost.

    If petroleum goes up in price a bunch more, biodiesel gets to break even.

    The unmapped territory is that although it burns a hydrocarbon, 100% biodiesel
    doesn't increase atmospheric CO2, because that CO2 was removed from the atmosphere
    less than a year prior. It is cyclic in the short-term. Biodiesel could be a
    near drop-in replacement for gasoline in cars and solve greenhouse gas
    problems from automobiles. Of course, if you use peanuts instead of soybeans, and
    oil costs stay high....people bet billions on shifts like this, the shift
    to biodiesel would become reality if regular diesel wholesale prices get too
    high and we have a strong need to minimize emissions...both of which are
    very real scenarios. Both factors have shifted a lot since this white paper
    in 2002.

    http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/analysispaper/biodiese l/

  4. Re:IF by Skynyrd · · Score: 4, Informative

    As it is, Diesel is not a popular technology in the United States. Most consumers in northern states avoid it for fear of jelling in cold weather, and Diesel all-around has gotten a bad reputation for small vehicles. Consumers prefer Gasoline to Diesel. The only place where Diesel is strong is in the transportation industry as just about every transportation truck fleet is Diesel powered.

    Too bad about the misinformed Northerners. Every place with cold weather that sells diesel fuel switches to "winter blend" when it gets cold. There's other technology to keep fuel from gelling as well.

    The reason the diesel has a bad reputation falls squarely on the shoulders of GM, who converted their small block Chevy engine to run on diesel back in the 70's. To say it was a steaming pile of crap would be unfair to the piles of crap. People hated them for good reason, and that's what people remember (as well as a handful of French diesels that sucked almost as much).

    If you get away from cities, the use of diesel is far more common. People who drive trucks for work, rather than show, have figured out that diesel is the way to go. My 7,200 pound 4x4 diesel powered work truck gets better mileage than my girlfriend's V-6 gas powered 2 wheel drive Ford Explorer. Better in town and better on the highway. My mileage drops by 2 to 3 mpg (down to 15-16 mpg) if I'm towing 5,000 pounds - but my friends with gas trucks get 6 to 10 mpg with the same load. Gas engines make great horsepower, but Diesels make great torque - and torque is what gets work done.

    Now that the US is changing the sulfur content of diesel fuel, we'll be able to get small, diesel powered Euro cars again, and it will be a good thing. A great thing. A friend of mine has a (roughly) 5 year old VW Jetta, and he gets 49 mpg at 70 mph. Better than a hybred, without the hassle of throwing away a bunch of batteries in a handful of years.

    Bring on the diesel!