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Hydrogen Won't Save Our Economy

anaesthetica writes "Physorg.com is featuring a story asserting that hydrogen is economically infeasible as a replacement for our current energy sources. The premise is that isolating and converting hydrogen into a usable energy source takes up a great deal of energy to begin with, and that subsequently converting that hydrogen fuel into usable energy results in an overall efficiency of only about 25%. Apparently, the increasing scarcity of water is going to make hydrogen too costly and just as politicized as oil." From the article: "[Fuel cell expert Ulf Bossel's] overall energy analysis of a hydrogen economy demonstrates that high energy losses inevitably resulting from the laws of physics mean that a hydrogen economy will never make sense. The advantages of hydrogen praised by journalists (non-toxic, burns to water, abundance of hydrogen in the Universe, etc.) are misleading, because the production of hydrogen depends on the availability of energy and water, both of which are increasingly rare and may become political issues, as much as oil and natural gas are today."

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  1. umm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    we're going to have to keep the rising water levels in the oceans down somehow right? ;)

  2. Re:A particularly bad Battery by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Funny

    You must be new here, Mr UID 2679. If the "editors" don't bother to read articles before submitting them, I don't see why we should bother reading them before commenting.

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  3. Re:Overall consumption of energy has to go down... by TheSeer2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Time to repeal the law then I guess.

  4. Re:sun and wind by WhoBeDaPlaya · · Score: 2, Funny

    The change is already here. Just take a look at how Chinese college students are living here. ;)

  5. sea level by p51d007 · · Score: 2, Funny

    sea levels CAN'T rise.........after all, no matter how much water is in the ocean...SEA LEVEL is SEA LEVEL LOL.

  6. Re:What difference does energy efficiency make? .. by natrius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Our existing energy strategies fit into the du Did you run out of energy?
  7. Re:sun and wind by Damastus+the+WizLiz · · Score: 2, Funny

    The real solution to the entire problem is to eliminate the use of Money.

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  8. how about these guys perpetual motion machine .. by rs232 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since it produces more energy than it consumes it should be easy to produce a full working example. For example a device consisting of a generator that feeds it's output to an electric motor that powers the generator.

    "We have developed a technology that produces free, clean and constant energy."

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  9. Re:Solar Panels Foating on the Ocean by E++99 · · Score: 2, Funny
    However, in some hypothetical future, we all have solar panels floating out in the ocean making us hydrogen from seawater


    So basically, you're suggesting taking the energy that the sun currently transfers into the oceans? Because.... the ocean doesn't really need that heat energy anyway, and it couldn't possibly be environmentally catastrophic if done on a massive scale? No thanks. Let's stick to nuclear.
  10. Re:Solar Panels Foating on the Ocean by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Think of the children^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hfish!

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  11. Re:House of Cards by bigpat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Alcohol is one answer, but it's not exactly perfect either.

    That's what I keep telling my friend Mr. Jack Daniels.