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Approaching Solar Storm Forces ISS to Take Cover

vichyschwa writes "A Coronal Mass Ejection resulting from an X3 Solar Flare earlier today is forcing the ISS and Shuttle astronauts to take cover and may result in communication disruptions. Last week, the same sunspot generated what astronomers described as a rarely imaged solar tsunami. The activity began with an X9 flare Dec. 5. According to Spaceweather.com, "satellites may experience some glitches and reboots, but astronauts are in no danger." However, the astronauts were ordered to a protective area of the space station as a precaution."

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  1. Why would they take cover? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    When they can get cool powers like the Fantastic Four?

    1. Re:Why would they take cover? by Samah · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hell, anything that gives me a tightly-fitted-lycra-suit-clad Jessica Alba is alright in my books :)

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    2. Re:Why would they take cover? by LurkerXXX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, making Jessica Alba invisible is just soooooo wrong.

  2. X2 vs X9 by andphi · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was confused by this, so I looked it up.

    From the Wikipedia article on Solar Flares: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Flare

    Solar flares are classified as A, B, C, M or X according to the peak flux (in watts per square meter, W/m2) of 100 to 800 picometer X-rays near Earth, as measured on the GOES spacecraft. Each class has a peak flux ten times greater than the preceding one, with X class flares having a peak flux of order 10-4 W/m2. Within a class there is a linear scale from 1 to 9, so an X2 flare is twice as powerful as an X1 flare, and is four times more powerful than an M5 flare. The more powerful M and X class flares are often associated with a variety of effects on the near-Earth space environment. Although the GOES classification is commonly used to indicate the size of a flare, it is only one measure.

  3. Take Cover? by Kenshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "A Coronal Mass Ejection resulting from an X3 Solar Flare earlier today [CC] is forcing the ISS and Shuttle astronauts to take cover..."

    I may be reading something wrong, or just may not know the exact details, but how exactly would the ISS "take cover"? Aside from the orbital path around the earth, there's little to hide under up there.

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    1. Re:Take Cover? by Cyno01 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Presumibly an extra shielded compartment of the station?

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    2. Re:Take Cover? by Unholy_Kingfish · · Score: 5, Informative
      One of the modules of the ISS is hardened against just this type of event. All of the modules have radiation protection, but this class of flare exceeds the safety limits of the those modules.

      Think of it as a storm cellar in space.

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    3. Re:Take Cover? by Markus+Landgren · · Score: 2, Informative

      Guess what? "The ISS and shuttle astronauts" means "the ISS astronauts and the shuttle astronauts".

  4. BOFH - Solar Flares by ServerIrv · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's friday, so I get into work early, before lunch even. The phone rings. Shit!
    I turn the page on the excuse sheet. "SOLAR FLARES" stares out at me. I'd better read up on that. Two minutes later I'm ready to answer the phone.
    "Hello?" I say.
    "WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU ALL MORNING?!"
    I hate it when they shout at me early in the morning. It always puts me in a bad mood. You know what I mean.
    "Ah, yes. Well, there's been some solar activity this morning, it always disrupts electronics..." I say, sweet as a sugar pie.
    "Huh? But I could get through to my friends?!"
    "Yes, that's entirely possible, solar activity is very unpredictable in it's effects. Why last week, we had some files just dissappear from a guys account while he was working on it!"
    "Really?"
    "Straight Up! Hey, do you want me to check your account?"
    "Yes please, I've got some important stuff in there!"
    "Ok, what's your username..."
    He tells me. Honestly, it's like shooting a fish in a barrel. Twice. With an Elephant Gun. At point blank range. In the head.

    1. Re:BOFH - Solar Flares by djupedal · · Score: 5, Funny

      Have you EVER shot at a fish in a barrel? Two times? With an elephant gun? At point blank range? In their shiny little slimy head?

      Word to the wise. I'm here to tell you that you only need to do this once to appreciate the benefit of a good barrel when fish shooting. I mean, unless you have some pretty large fish (especially in the head area), and a pretty small caliber weapon, you are at risk of not only offing the fish, but you are also liable to put an NRA certified water-draining hole in your barrel. Now me, I use fish-shooting barrels from the Ukraine, and I've never had an issue with water stained carpets.

      Try explaining it to your significant other when they get home. "Have you been discharging weapons inside the apartment, again...?" - "Don't we recall what happened when you put the dartboard up on the wall at the end of the hall and shot at it with your new Glock? That little-bitty bullet went thru the dart board and the wall and all four of your alpaca sweaters hanging up on that end of the closet...right?"

    2. Re:BOFH - Solar Flares by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Word to the wise. I'm here to tell you that you only need to do this once to appreciate the benefit of a good barrel when fish shooting.

      Actually, shooting a high-powered rifle, while looking down at close range, into standing water is ... a really bad idea. Presuming that you really ARE talking about an "elephant gun," the amount of energy being released is really quite astounding. Depending on the round you're using, you could be delivering over 8,900 foot pounds of muzzle energy. With that projectile doing 2,000 feet per second into a barrel of water right in front of you, some interesting things are going to happen. Supersonic hunks of metal of that size tend to create some interesting cavitation effects in enclosed bodies of liquid (especially when enclosed by wooden slats!).

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  5. Re:Fantastic four by sporkme · · Score: 2, Informative

    1989 was pretty entertaining.

  6. Oh dear by Whiteout · · Score: 4, Funny

    A Coronal Mass Ejection resulting from an X3 Solar Flare earlier today

    Too much Mexican beer after a day on the beach, perhaps.

  7. According to by chanrobi · · Score: 4, Funny

    CNN, the shuttle should be able to escape it! http://shogun.shafted.com.au/temp/cnnsucks.jpg

  8. glitches for satellites, no danger for astronauts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So why don't they make satellites out of the stuff astronauts are made of?

  9. tsunami by KillerCow · · Score: 5, Interesting
    1. Re:tsunami by Animaether · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hope so, because unfortunately SOHO has been doings its CCD maintenance run while that tsunami occurred.

  10. Re:glitches for satellites, no danger for astronau by DoubleRing · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because, um, we can't? I doubt organic computing has advanced far enough. Last I heard, a mouse brain could auto-pilot a plane, but I don't think that is what scientists are really worried about. A few brief glitches doesn't justify making the enormous investment to create not only wholly organic computers, but completely organic sensors (like gyroscopes. How are we going to make an organic version of that?) We don't have the knowledge or the means to do it. Besides, I have a feeling that an organic satellite would have more problems in space than a mechanical one. A mechanical one would have to worry about a few solar storms and collisions, both of which are only intermittent concerns. Organic satellites would have to worry about a lot of things, like solar wind which would be constantly ablating the surface (think sunburn). An organic satellite would need to feed itself. The only organic means of converting sunlight into energy that I can think of requires a steady supply of water and carbon dioxide. Out of curiosity, how would we communicate with it? Moving on, I guess you could say that an organic satellite could heal itself. A big plus, until you realize that means that it can also develop cancer. I know, it sounds retarded, but there's a lot of radiation in space. Even with shielding, that's a lot of exposure. Instead of having to go on missions to replace a faulty sensor or transmitter, we'll need to send missions to perform surgeries in zero gravity. Sounds fun.

    Anyways, all of these concerns are a little academic, especially considering the fact that they don't exist!

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  11. sweet! by TheWart · · Score: 3, Funny

    I would hate to be the guy that has to look like The Thing after this passes.

  12. Look north tonight by pedestrian+crossing · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The last time one of these things happened, we had incredible views of the northern lights even in southern Europe.

    So I would suggest keeping an eye on the northern sky tonight, we might be in for a truly entertaining light show!

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    1. Re:Look north tonight by rs79 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ok so I'm lookin north. I live where it's dark and far enough north the aurora is pretty good here.

      But it's cloudy. And it'd gonna be cloudy all week.

      Wadda rip.

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    2. Re:Look north tonight by arrrrg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Saw this earlier today: MIDDLE LATITUDE AURORAL ACTIVITY WARNING. Sadly, it's way too foggy here to see anything ... I was really looking forward to seeing my first aurora.

    3. Re:Look north tonight by yellowbkpk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check out this page for the "energetic particles" count in the atmosphere. Basically, you have a decent chance of seeing Northern Lights if you are being covered by a yellow or red pixel.

  13. Err.. by malkir · · Score: 4, Funny

    The only thing I'd want to 'take cover' of is a very particular part of my body which does not react well long-term to radiation. Think of the children!

  14. Re:Fantastic four by Columcille · · Score: 3, Funny

    Then or than, that's a pretty small grammatical error, especially on Slashdot.

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  15. For a moment there by h2g2bob · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought it said "Approaching Solar Storm Forces IIS to Take Cover"

    Oh well.

  16. Topic drift: gyroscopes by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Informative

    >like gyroscopes. How are we going to make an organic version of that?

    You've been carrying around examples your entire life. Fluid-filled loops, one for each axis, little hairs along the inside to detect fluid rotation.

    Try this. Sit up straight in a swivel chair, kick it into a spin, maintain the spin until you get used to it. Then quickly lean forward. You will then know exactly how a gyroscope feels when you try to tilt it. Have a bucket handy or do it on an empty stomach.

    Besides, look how well organic technology worked for the Vorlons and the Shadows. Unless you're going to argue that it's a bad idea because they were both fictional and they both lost.

    1. Re:Topic drift: gyroscopes by ComaVN · · Score: 2

      That doesn't work in a zero-G environment. Gyroscopes do.

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  17. Re:How?? Easy. by DoubleRing · · Score: 4, Informative
    It's called the inner ear. We know it's exact shape, we know it's filled with fluid and we know that's how we can tell with our eyes closed if we're upside-down, sideways, etc. The iner ear is our balance mechanism and we don't need three axises when we can have a spiral canal filled with fluid do the same thing with proper sensors attached.
    Wrong. As someone else pointed out, the inner ear depends on gravity a great deal. Why do they call the zero-grav training plane the "vomit rocket?" There's also a flight training exercise where an instructor and a student go together into a plane with an obscured canopy so they can't see outside. The instructor flips the plane upside down at a speed so that the centripetal force of the plane remains at 1 G. When they change the controls to the student, a lot of them end up never realizing they are upside down until the instructor tells them. The point is to trust your instruments. If you're flying in bad weather, you can't trust your inner ear, but you can trust the gyroscope.
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  18. X-ray flux raw data by dtmos · · Score: 4, Informative

    Real-time X-ray flux data is available here. A good site (for BOFHs or just curious laypeople) on this subject is SpaceWeather.

  19. It can still be cool! by CptnHarlock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I lived in the north of Sweden (Luleå) for a year and one night there was going to be some major northern lights. The sky was clouded BUT the clouds looked as if they were backlit with a powerfull greenish-pinkish light! The night was quite bright and this was during the winter when even the days are dark and at best gloomy. So don't hesitate to take a look.. :)

    Cheers!..

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  20. Re:(OT) by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Funny


    Had a friend at university who used to throw knives and had a target drawn on his door. He was chucking a knife at it when his room mate walked in a fraction of a second after he'd thrown it. So we're all sitting there in stunned silence as this door swings shut behind him with a knife positioned right behind his head and he looks at us all and says "What's the matter with you lot?"

    The difference between funny and death is very fine sometimes.

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  21. WikiSlashdot by ThinkingInBinary · · Score: 2, Funny

    Slashdot comments should be editable, like Wiki pages! Instead of posting irritating comments, Grammar Nazi(TM)'s could just edit the offending posts directly.

    1. Re:WikiSlashdot by glwtta · · Score: 2, Funny

      Instead of posting irritating comments, Grammar Nazis(TM) could just edit the offending posts directly.

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  22. You are on to something! by clashdot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to a recent article in Scientific American, protection from radiation in space is a depressingly hard problem. Basically, the only protection known to work is to put a great many atomic nuclei in the way of the radiation. The irony is that a thin shield, such as a space station wall, may be worse than no shield at all: It stops low-energy particles, but when hit by the really nasty high-energy particles (that are out there in great numbers) secondary radiation is produced, that is in many cases more harmful than the original particles.

    Leave the lead shield at home: light elements such as hydrogen work the best for shielding, both because you get more atomic nuclei per mass unit, but also because less secondary radiation is produced. Therefore, water is a good choice for a shield. You need about one meter.

    Now, surrounding the ISS with a one-meter deep water shield is unfeasible. However, if you want to protect just one, or two, little things from radiation that is coming from a specific direction, you can. You carry one meter of water shielding with you at all times. Just use you body as a shield!

    You will find that astronauts fall into one of two categories: Those who choose to shield their heads and those who choose to shield something else. They are easily told apart during a solar storm by their bodies pointing in opposite directions.

  23. Re:glitches for satellites, no danger for astronau by paving-slab · · Score: 2, Funny

    So that's what happened to the White Dolphins from Yangtze River...

  24. Re:Solar Storm as Anti Virus? by LupeSpywalper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just an update on the space shuttle virus situation. It seems NASA have cleaned their computers of the viruses that prevented the astronauts from receiving email attachments. At the end of this mornings wake up call, the Capcom gave this comment: "And most importantly: You are go for Outlook!". So this shows that if you just put all the best scientists in your country on the task, it is actually possible to use Outlook safely.

  25. X3 is nothing.. by slashkitty · · Score: 2, Informative
    I don't even know why this is news. Sun activity is very low right now, we're at the bottom of the cycle right now: http://www.sec.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/

    A few years ago we had that X28 flare!

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