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Melting Coins Now Illegal In the U.S.

A number of readers have noted the action by the U.S. Mint to outlaw the melting down or bulk export of coins. This has come about because the value of the precious metals contained in coins now exceeds their face value. The Mint would rather not have to replace pennies (at a cost of 1.73 cents per) or nickels (at 8.74 cents). The expectation is that Congress will mandate new compositions for some U.S. coins in 2007.

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  1. "precious metals" in pennies? by plasmacutter · · Score: 5, Informative

    They stopped making em out of copper before the 50's (I forget exactly when its finals week XD)

    they make them out of an electroplated nickel alloy now..

    Dare i say it shouldn't just be oil we should be concerned about running out?

    JUNK METAL coins are now worth more than their face value... I think this is a sign that asteroid mining could be feasible (the average nickel iron monster is worth several trillian.. not counting any incidental precious metals)

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  2. Re:under what authority? by qweqazfoo · · Score: 5, Informative
    Ever heard of Administrative Law? Most of the laws in this country are made by federal and state executive agencies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_Law

    And to blow your mind even further, the judicial branch makes law too! It's called common law. The federal judiciary and 49 of the 50 states operate under common law. If you don't like it, you have to move to Louisiana or France.

  3. Re:If this keeps up... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those are illegal. It's just that no one actually cares enough to enforce it.

    It's only illegal if you intend to use/distribute them as 'money'. Novelty items are OK.

    (Text as of 2/19/02) 18 U.S.C. 331:
    Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States;

  4. Re:If this keeps up... by sholden · · Score: 5, Informative

    Australia manages just fine.

    You just round to the nearest 5 cents. If something costs $13.23 then you end up paying $13.25 if you pay cash, if it costs $13.27 then you also pay $13.25 if you pay cash. When paying by EFTPOS (think swiping your debit card in the US) or credit card or cheque (think check it the US :) you pay to the exact cent. Actual prices are still specified to individual cents, the rounding is done on the total purchase not on each individual item.

    It works perfectly well, sure you can get 2c worth of free petrol (gas...) by putting $40.02 in the tank, but no one does because it's 2c... Sure you could try buying 2c (or 7c) worth of petrol over and over again, but no one does that either because it's retarded.

    Just because you remove something from cash transactions doesn't mean you change the "base" of your currency - to claim that is just being moronic. Amazingly Australia didn't collapse, the banks didn't have a field day with "false" interest rates, in fact the only thing that changed is you don't end up carrying 10kg of coins at the end of the day...

    Inflation means that a penny now is a *much* *much* finer resolution on prices. People managed perfectly well 50 years ago with a much coarser price scheme... Seriously who gives a stuff if something costs $12.32 or $12.33 - can you even tell the difference at the end of week?