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First Russian Anti-Evolution Suit Enters Court Room

sdriver writes "If you thought it was only the US giving Darwin a hard time, Russia has its own problems starting with evolution. A student has 'sued the St. Petersburg city education committee, claiming the 10th-grade biology textbook used at the Cervantes Gymnasium was offensive to believers and that teachers should offer an alternative to Darwin's famous theory.' The suit, the first of its kind in Russia, is being dismissed out of hand by the principal and teachers. The teacher of the science class had apparently even taken the step of stating at the start of the school year that there were other theories on the origin of life."

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  1. Re:other theories by general+scruff · · Score: 0, Troll

    Quit yer whinging!

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  2. Re:other theories by ArcherB · · Score: 0, Troll

    >As a creationist, I'd be content with a statement saying that evolution isn't proven

    so you'd be content with a lie, then?

    evolution is a fact. get over it. you are wrong about creationism and no amount of whinging can change a fact.


    Who the hell are you to tell this guy his belief system is wrong? Are some sort of deity yourself, or do you just think you are God? Fact is, evolution is theory, much like the theory of gravity or big bang theory . So you are either telling a lie yourself or you don't know the difference between theory and fact. Your post supports both theories.

    Note: I'm not claiming that evolution is wrong. I am claiming that you are an asshole for insulting this guy's religion.

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  3. Re:other theories by Derosian · · Score: 0, Troll

    I can't wait till 2000+ years from now people are saying the same thing about our scientific text books.

  4. Can't we just shoot Creationists? by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 0, Troll

    The world would be a better place and the Creationists would get the martyrdom they crave. Everyone wins.

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  5. Re:Sure! Here's your alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll
    Sorry, I think we got mixed up. I wasn't referring to you as you have every right to be proud of Russia. I was actually referring to my fellow asshat American a few posts above you that was grovelling about how he was a 'bloody uneducated American'. Non-Americans must really get tired of hearing that crap all the time. Not only does it sound disingenuous as it is not much of a secret that America is also a great nation and despite its flaws does give hope to many people, but the over-compensation exhibited by many Americans about how they are ignorant or uneducated or whatever is just pitiful.

    Imagine if every fellow Russian you knew constantly apologized for Stalin or kept saying, "now, I know I'm just an ignorant Russkie" wouldn't that get on your nerves after a while. Especially being aware of all the positive things Russia and the former USSR brought to the world. Now put yourself in my shoes.

    You live in Utah, which admittedly isn't exactly the nicest place in America (I know, I've been there on many occasions), so you know America isn't entirely like it's made out to be by many Americans that wish to disparage it seemingly out of a misplaced desire to be cool or accepted amongst their international peers. What happens is that the very people they are trying to impress with their unverisimilitous bullshit laugh at them for fools behind their backs. I've seen it too many times. It's really pathetic.

  6. Re:other theories by arminw · · Score: 0, Troll

    ....Nobody's editing the bible to keep up with the world.....

    That's because nobody has ever discovered any FACTS that contradict it. No human discoveries in any branch of science or history have ever been at odds with what is stated in the original languages the Bible was written in. Now there have been plenty of conjectures and interpretations of facts and the Bible that have been at odds. One of the major errors made by science is assuming that things were always as we see them today. Since we don't have a time machine, we have no way of knowing for sure how things were.

    For example, we assume that we can date rocks and other stuff by radioactivity. The underlying assumption (faith) is that the rate of radioactive decay has never varied from what we see it today. There is an increasing body of evidence that this is not so. It appears that some of the so called "constants" of physics have been far from being so. These "constants" determine the rate of radioactive decay among other things. Partly, it is from this uniformitarian assumption, that we get the idea of the immense ages of billions and billions of years.

    Mr. Hubble first measured the red shift. That is a fact, there IS such a thing. But then he INTERPRETED this to be caused by the Doppler effect. Recent more accurate measurements show that this red shift is QUANTIZED. This negates Mr. Hubble's "accepted" explanation for the cause of this observed red shift. Unfortunately for the promulgators of billions and billions of years, it also makes the Universe much younger. Again, an interpretation based on an assumption, not the actual observed facts makes us imagine that the Universe is old. I believe that long before another 2000 years go by, the present idea of the age of the universe will have been thoroughly demolished and the new understanding be more in line with the chronology outlined in the Bible.

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