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BBC Uses Skype Links In Murder Hunt

Nico M writes "The highly publicized UK murder hunt for the serial killer(s) of five young sex workers in Suffolk is using Skype to ask the public for information. BBC News is embedding freephone Skype links to both the police incident room and Crimestoppers UK. Is this the first time Skype has been used in this way?"

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  1. Sex workers? by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sex worker, is that the PC term for prostitute?

    Dan East

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    1. Re:Sex workers? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sex worker, is that the PC term for prostitute?

      I am amazed that so few slashdotters (reading the first 10 posts or so) are unfamiliar with that term. (Do you all live under rocks or something?)

      Its basically a superset of prostitute - including people in the industry who don't actually fuck for money, ie strip dancers, porn stars, topless waiters, dominatrixes (sp?) etc.

      Nothing PC about it.

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    2. Re:Sex workers? by lastninja · · Score: 5, Funny

      including people in the industry who don't actually fuck for money, ie strip dancers, porn stars, topless waiters, dominatrixes (sp?) etc.
      What kind of boring non-fucking porn do you watch?

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    3. Re:Sex workers? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I am amazed that so few slashdotters (reading the first 10 posts or so) are unfamiliar with that term. (Do you all live under rocks or something?)

      A lot of Slashdotters are American and the term isn't really used in the USA, probably since prostitution is illegal in most parts of the country (excepting Nevada but not Las Vegas city). So terms that "legitimize" it are less likely to be used.

      -b.

    4. Re:Sex workers? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      prostitution is illegal in most parts of the country

      Seriously? Illegal? (not just regulated?)

      Why is it illegal to sell a (much in demand) service in the land of the free?

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    5. Re:Sex workers? by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yep, I will second that. Here in Oz we have something called the sex workers union. Personally I think the "deadhookers" tag is extremely bad taste, it is disrespectful toward both the dead and their greiving relatives.

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    6. Re:Sex workers? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Informative
      Seriously? Illegal? (not just regulated?)

      Yeah, illegal, except for "rural" Nevada. Enforced to various degrees depending on where you are, and there are always loopholes for people setting up brothels ("it's a massage parlor, dammit!"). As to why - probably due to religious taboos to a large extent. After all, the USA *was* founded by Puritans.

      I hate to say it, but better illegal than legal *and* legally recognized by the State as a "normal" profession like in Germany. There was the recent case of an unemployed lady there who was refused continuing unemployment benefits because she didn't take a job as a "sex worker." (Cite: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne ws/2005/01/30/wgerm30.xml ) I'd be ok if it were legal for the purpose of harm reduction but not overtly encouraged by the State.

      -b.

    7. Re:Sex workers? by mhore · · Score: 4, Funny
      Sex worker, is that the PC term for prostitute?

      No. The term you're thinking of is Penile Stimulation Engineer, or something to that effect.

      Mike.

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    8. Re:Sex workers? by notwrong · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I hate to say it, but better illegal than legal *and* legally recognized by the State as a "normal" profession like in Germany. There was the recent case of an unemployed lady there who was refused continuing unemployment benefits because she didn't take a job as a "sex worker." (Cite: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne ws/2005/01/30/wgerm30.xml ) I'd be ok if it were legal for the purpose of harm reduction but not overtly encouraged by the State.

      That seems like a much better argument for "legal but voluntary" than "illegal". The police in the US must waste so much time trying to stamp out something that is never, ever going to go away. Here in New South Wales (the most populous state in Australia), prostitution has been legal for decades. It's not like there isn't still a social stigma attached, but I find it hard to see how throwing criminal sanctions into the mix is helpful.

    9. Re:Sex workers? by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Informative
      I hate to say it, but better illegal than legal *and* legally recognized by the State as a "normal" profession like in Germany. There was the recent case of an unemployed lady there who was refused continuing unemployment benefits

      Note there are no names or dates in that stpory. It's an urban legend. Never happened. http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/brothel.asp

      ...a story was sensationalized for political purposes and passed from one news source to the next, and somewhere in the rewriting and translating process what was originally discussed as a mere hypothetical possibility has now been reported as a factual occurrence.
    10. Re:Sex workers? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Agreed about the "legal but voluntary" part. As far as US police, I don't think that they try *that* hard. They may run an occasional sting operation in some cities to look like they're doing something or if the residents of the neighborhood complain, but the law isn't enforced all that severely.

      The big advantage of having prostitution legal and recognised as such is that you can require regular checks for STD's, as well as enforce standards for working conditions.

  2. Why yes...will grab for code. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "And, of course, not all prostitutes are "sex workers". For example the average CEO..."

    Or the average slashdotter...once they hit daylight that is.

  3. This is probably a really bad idea by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is probably not a good idea, because there is no anonymity with Skype. It is trivial to log the IP address of anyone calling. At least with a normal phone number, you can just use a public payphone and there is no real chance of being identified.

    Anonymity is really important, especially if they want other sex workers to contact them. After all the recent "crack-downs" and "zero tolerance" policies, not to mention the bad reputation the police have, is it any wonder that prostitutes dont want to talk to them?

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    1. Re:This is probably a really bad idea by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is probably not a good idea, because there is no anonymity with Skype

      1) They have a normal number in addition to the skype links.
      2) You can anonymously use skype from an internet cafe (most have it installed, with mic + headphones these days)
      3) Its for convenience sake, so someone who doesn't think it's worth calling (for the little thing they remember seeing walking past) will just click on the link when reading a story.

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  4. Re:i cant see them by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 3, Informative

    Same here. No Skype links for me, with Safari and the near-latest Mac version.

  5. First time for what? by SQL+Error · · Score: 5, Funny
    Is this the first time Skype has been used in this way?
    For making phone calls? Probably not.
  6. Yeah .. hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Imagine if every anti-U.S. story on /. were tagged with deadiraqis. The /. left would be up in arms. Dead hookers is ok though. Because you know, they weren't human.

    1. Re:Yeah .. hilarious by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then replace "nigger" with "baby".

      Baby jokes never get old...

      Aisle seat please.

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  7. Mobile Phone Tracking by MrSteveSD · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder if the murderer was stupid enough to have a mobile phone with him when he dumped the bodies. All you would have to do is do a search of all mobile phones that have been in those particular cells at the estimated times of death of each victim. The bodies were dumped in the surrounding countryside so it might narrow it down to a few phones. Another possible line of attack is that the murderer's mobile phone would have been in the same cell as each victims mobile phone for some amount of time. Once you have his mobile number, the game is up. Even if it was not purchased in his name, the phone would spend most of its time where he lives, so it would be simple to narrow it down to the row of houses where he lives.

  8. There are NO SKYPE LINKS in TFA by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Informative
    Anyone with information that would help Ipswich detectives is urged to contact the incident room on 0800 096 1011 or speak to Crimestoppers in confidence on 0800 555 111.

    Which idiot wrote the headline without even looking at TFA?

    1. Re:There are NO SKYPE LINKS in TFA by jasoncart · · Score: 4, Informative

      Looks like the submitter has this installed, which turns the phone numbers into Skype links. This toolbar was distributed with the latest version of Skype.

  9. Story is false by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 4, Informative

    (I posted this further down as a reply to an anon comment, so it got buried.)

    Guys, this story is false. I see no Skype links. Do you see any Skype links?

  10. Slashdot's most offensive moments by gjuk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, someone posts a non-story about Skype being used by the police and bbc to report infomration on murdered women. Slashdot users don't discuss the fakeness of the story, or the skype marketing angle, or the future of telecoms. They feel it appropriate to make declarations and guenuinely offensive 'humour' about murdered women.
    Seriously, these women may be prostitutes, but the key facts are: 5 people were murdered in a market town in the space of a couple of weeks. These people were people; daughters, mothers, sisters. They were all, I believe, hooked on drugs. And one day they may have got off drugs and enjoyed a normal life. Not now. The fascination some /.ers have shown for the 'sex angle' makes me worry about who I'm associating with here, and says far more about the writers than the victims.

  11. Re: Why do people suddenly care? Answer & Cont by evilandi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    pembo13: Why do people suddenly care?

    The answer: This case involves a large number of murders within a short space of time in a quiet semi-rural area where murders are exceptionally rare and crime very low.

    Let's not kid ourselves that anyone (significant) cares about prostitutes, especially not drug-addicted ones. This is about five murders within a fortnight in a middle-class provincial town (100,000 folks). Ipswitch, contrary to London-based journalists misunderstanding, doesn't have a "red light district". It has a corner of a road near a truck stop. Not even one whole street. Think almost the furthest town you can imagine from The Bronx. Think Agatha Christie's "Miss Marple".

    To give context, the town is only a few miles from where Constable painted The Hay Wain, possibly the most famous English countryside scene of all time. Imagine five naked dead women on the banks of that painting- the bodies were found in similar locations. THAT is why people suddenly care, because it is so incredibly unusual given the semi-rural location.

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  12. Re:Why yes... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And, of course, not all prostitutes are "sex workers". For example the average CEO... It's always struck me as a strange comment on our society that those who are willing to sell their bodies are regarded as lower than those who are willing to sell their souls.
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  13. Murderers MySpace Profile! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The murderers myspace profile is here. Found it after reading this article

    1. Re:Murderers MySpace Profile! by ear1grey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Important correction: The man has been arrested on suspicion of the five murders; he is not, unless proven guilty, "the murderer".