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Consumer Technologies Driving IT

fiannaFailMan writes to point out The Economist's reporting on the way consumer-driven software products are increasingly making their presence felt in the corporate world. Some CIOs are embracing the influx while others continue to resist it. From the article: "In the past, innovation was driven by the military or corporate markets. But now the consumer market, with its vast economies of scale and appetite for novelty, leads the way. Compared with the staid corporate-software industry, using these services is like 'receiving technology from an advanced civilization,' says [one university CIO]... [M]ost IT bosses, especially at large organizations, tend to be skeptical of consumer technologies and often ban them outright. Employees, in return, tend to ignore their IT departments. Many young people... use services such as Skype to send instant messages or make free calls while in the office. FaceTime, a Californian firm that specializes in making such consumer applications safe for companies, found in a recent survey that more than half of employees in their 20s and 30s admitted to installing such software over the objections of IT staff."

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  1. what do you expect? by macadamia_harold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Economist's reporting on the way consumer-driven software products are increasingly making their presence felt in the corporate world. Some CIOs are embracing the influx while others continue to resist it.

    When you lock down the machines, of course people are going to be driven to web services like the apps that companies like google offer (mail / office / etc ) .

    1. Re:what do you expect? by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You should try working for a large financial corp. They lock your machine down _and_ block access to web mail and other sites. Its their way of the highway as part of security/confidentiality/behaviour control .

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    2. Re:what do you expect? by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've worked for many financial corps (writing webbanking applications), and most of them don't have Internet access *at all*! Try doing your web-based job without the www. (Okay, they had "internet stations" for research, but it was a hassle.) Especially as a consultant, you can be lucky if you can send email to the outside. Usually, it's internal-mail only.

      The banks where I have worked that have Internet access, usually have heavy filtering. I still have the find a bank that blocks my own domain and thus my own webmail service, but yeah, for n00bs it's probably hard to survive without hotmail, gmail and yahoo.

      Still, I don't understand banks. I was allowed to take my *personal* laptop inside and I worked late when every employee was gone. It was a no-brainer to put a cross-cable between my bank-desktop and my laptop. (Did that once for burning a CD - for the employees of the bank.... Nothing illegal, just "bending the rules"). Sure, the switches were MAC-bound, but if I can get all the info on my desktop and them copy it over to my laptop all security is gone at once.

      For those suggesting USB sticks/harddrives: these machines were all NT4, for a reason.... *grin*

  2. Stalinistic IT practices... by Shoeler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is really accomplished by the draconian means IT organizations are going through these days? Viral outbreaks are way down, mainly due to better edge practices - ie frequent AV definition updates, forced scanning of all inbound e-mail for viruses, better firewall configurations, near real-time forced patchings, etc. With those left out, the vectors for infection drop dramatically and end up being removable media (USB drives), portable media (CD/DVD), etc. Again with proper real-time on-access antivirus scanning on both file servers and PCs, where do viruses come from?

    And if the reason for locking users out of their PC configuration is configuration management and not protection, then why not just let them at it... have a standard PC configuration, a standard image, and partition their drive. All user files are on the 2nd partition, and all system on the first. If they dork it up instead of spending hours troubleshooting, just image the primary partition and move on.

    That way you reduce the overhead of your IT group and allow users the freedoms we expect. I'm not talking utopian - I'm just talking simple things like being able to install a firefox major version update without calling the helplessdesk, or installing any other app I need to do my job (not wanted things like IM clients - real job needs). Instead I have to call the helpless desk wait a damn week while I play phone tag and then sit there for an hour as some monkey figures out how to double click "setup.exe".

    It all seems so unnecessary to me. Get a clue and a plan and have a modicum of control - not the communist variety of control.

    1. Re:Stalinistic IT practices... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A few points:

      1. Your symantec doesnt catch everything, even if its in its definitions files. It may run before the av can scan it. It may come encrypted. It may be part of a larger spyware payload. "Edge" is buzzwords for "buy our scanning proxy." Its not 100% protection.

      2. Your system is locked down not because the "helpdesk monkey" enjoys visiting self-entitled misanthropes like yourself but to keep unauthorized software off your machine. Your manager doesnt want you playing games all day, IT doesnt want to image your computer every week because of all the spyware you download, and the helpdesk doesnt need more of your whiney complaints. Not to mention legal/finance dont want to get stuck with a bill/lawsuit for the software you pirate and put on a machine that isnt yours.

      3. The partition idea has already been done. Its called network drives. You still are responsible for the PC.

      At the end of the day, when you screw up a perfectly good machine because youre so much smarter than your IT deparment and its monkeys, you end up calling them, expecting them to fix it, and blaming them. Now multiply yourself x250 people and think about why you have to wait so long for service or why some of these policies exist.

      >Get a clue and a plan and have a modicum of control - not the communist variety of control.

      Lastly, this isn't soviet russia. Dont like the work environment? Quit.

    2. Re:Stalinistic IT practices... by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you're worried about near computer-illiterates fubaring their machines, why not simply have a "one strike and you're out" sort of policy? Everyone gets a liberal security policy to start with - maybe even full local admin access. The first time you screw your machine up, it gets reimaged and locked down on the grounds that you can't be trusted not to screw it up again.

      That lets those of us who know what we're doing and have never needed to call the support desk for anything other than hardware failure get on with our jobs with the minimum of inconvenience, while protecting those that clearly need to be hand-held.

  3. Hey you kids. Get off my yawn by neimon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1979: Hiding that Apple ][ with VisiCalc that the MIS staff has forbidden because users can't be trusted to produce accurate reports without someone with a Masters doing the coding. 1984: Sneaking PCs into an all-mainframe shop by having the customer buy them as parts, on seperate POs. 1985: Networking those PCs peer-to-peer over 1MB coax so they could share a "big" 40 MB hard drive and a "fast" 6PPM laser printer. That was the last generation of revolution. Now comes the software revolution, where disposable widgets take the place of $450 office "productivity" packages. It's a glorious dawn, and I'm laughing at all you young turks thinking you're going to control it. Embrace and control it, lads. Never forbid anything unless you have something better.

  4. Re:This is new? by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Heh. I was reading comp.sys.amiga.* on company time back in '88. Within weeks of Mosaic coming out, everyone in the office was trying it. My first exposure to online gaming was Doom over the company LAN - and the 4 of us in the company group ate so much of our internal bandwidth playing Doom that IT thought the routers were failing (the very first release of Doom was a real network hog). Then there was Pointcast. etcetera and so on...

  5. The magic behind consumer applications ... by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... is being able to squeeze the cust^H^H^H^Hconsumer for the maximum amount of money while getting away with being able to provide a minimum of (or no) quality, service and support (or alternatively, charge ridiculous amounts for each of those three). This is possible because the individual "consumer" has very little leverage against the "producer" ('Not gonna buy your stuff anymore!'), compared to what a corporation could muster ('Not gonna buy several megabucks worth of your stuff anymore!').

  6. Predictable... by udderly · · Score: 3, Funny

    FaceTime, a Californian firm that specializes in making such consumer applications safe for companies, found in a recent survey that more than half of employees in their 20s and 30s admitted to installing such software over the objections of IT staff.

    In another recent survey, eye drop manufacturer Visine, has released a survey indicating that most marijuana users suffer from bloodshot eyes.

  7. It's not a PC, it's a WORKstation... by spywhere · · Score: 3, Informative

    I worked as a desktop support tech in several environments, with policies ranging from draconian to nonexistent.

    In the locked-down world, our firm charged for repairs to "non-standard" machines: anything with user-installed software, even if it wasn't the cause of the problem. We were forbidden to use the terms PC or computer, instead calling every desktop and laptop a "workstation." People who downloaded stuff from the Internet often found themselves explaining the $300 repair charge to their boss, and were subject to termination at the company's discretion. (As desktop techs, we were very powerful... one guy I worked with actually received "personal services" in exchange for not reporting a young woman in the call center).

    In the open environments, stupidity flourished. People would install Kazaa (with its load of spyware) and put their shared folders on the servers. Executives would download GoToMyPC and use their names as the password. During downtime, I would use PSList to remotely check computers for spyware, and remotely delete anything I didn't like. A few people complained about losing their Webshots and other crap, but the CIO was an old friend of mine and fully backed my efforts.
    One day, I claimed in a weekly meeting that spyware and adware were consuming 50% to 70% of our Internet bandwidth. The head of the network group immediately heaped scorn upon that statement... until the CIO asked him to check into the claim. He had to stand up the following week and say that I was wrong: the figure was closer to 90%.