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The Google Phone?

VE3OGG writes "There has been ample hype over the last several years that Apple's iPhone was just around the corner. (Though a product named iPhone was just recently released by Cisco / Linksys.) Well, while Apple fans continue to salivate at the thought of a phone powered by the company-of-cool, the index-everything-while-doing-no-evil company may be setting itself up to produce their own Google phone in partnership with Orange."

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  1. Hype Killing Sentence by PoloniumSandwich · · Score: 2, Funny
    From the article:
    The device would not be revolutionary: manufactured by HTC, a Taiwanese firm specialising in smart phones and Personal Data Assistants (PDAs), it might have a screen similar to a video iPod.
    Can't wait to get my hands on one!
  2. The first thing I'd do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Type in 'pizza' and press "I'm Feeling Lucky".

  3. Glad they're calling in the pros by Sciros · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So, an internet-enabled phone that isn't total rubbish at it? Sounds good to me.
    I wonder exactly how much of the software Google will be writing, because as more mobiles become internet-capable it seems to me that making viruses for them can start to make sense. I don't think most mobile software is all that secure, but I'm thinking if Google has a stake in it, it will at least be secure *enough.*

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    1. Re:Glad they're calling in the pros by asliarun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      From TFA, it looks like the Big G is mainly focusing on optimizing bandwidth by compression, and i'm guessing, by using a Google proxy. On a side note, I think that two of the biggest problems with surfing the internet via a cellphone are
      1. Small display
      2. Input interface

      The first is getting bigger, but there's only so much room to grow, especially if you want to keep the form factor within reasonable limits so that the damn thing will fit in your pocket.

      Regarding the second, i was thinking that it might be a good idea to have a good voice recognition software to do the user input instead of using the microscopic cellphone buttons. Alternately, if a good touch-sensitive interface can be built that lets us write text directly into the URL window or textboxes, it would make surfing so much easier. This can be made better if the UI recognizes that we're trying to type into a small textbox, and automatically zooms the textbox for us.

      Perhaps, someone's already done all this, as i'm a bit of a cellphone luddite, but does this make sense?

    2. Re:Glad they're calling in the pros by Sciros · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well they're good ideas in any case. Something along the lines of a Nintendo DS screen would be ideal, as that is one of the better touch-sensitive screens out there as far as I know. Voice recognition software... well, Google ought to have the best out there given their vast amount of available training data for speech processing.

      OMG a thought for the future (and yes Google is the closest to making this a reality): voice recognition matched with machine translation matched with sophisticated voice synthesis = complete language independence! Now *that* would be one heck of an advancement in communication. (yeah I know it's off-topic but I needed to write it down).

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    3. Re:Glad they're calling in the pros by moresheth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Another thing to note is that most websites aren't set up for mobile devices yet.

      The good thing is that it can be done easily, and everything's in place for it to happen. It's one of the reasons that everyone gets excited about table-less designs. All it takes is a separate stylesheet to make your website formatted for a tiny iPod-sized screen.

      Now all we need is for everyone to start making websites properly.

    4. Re:Glad they're calling in the pros by RESPAWN · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would really like to know what exactly you are referring to when you speak of voice recognition. My phone (LG vx9900, aka LG enV) has voice recognition for a list of commands. In fact, the amazing thing to me compared to my last phones is that I haven't had to train it. It's able to parse the name I speak and match it to a name in my address book with about 90% success rate. Note that this includes several friends with names that the phone itself has trouble pronouncing. Which brings me to the other interesting thing about the phone: voice synthesization. It will tell me out loud who's calling (by name if they're in my address book or by number if they're not) and it will read back my text messages to me. I think this is all done on something like a 400MHz embedded chip.

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    5. Re:Glad they're calling in the pros by RESPAWN · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or we could all just get phones with built-in QWERTY keyboards. I've never been a huge fan of text recognition software -- my handwriting is so bad that I always had issues on my Palm. Now that I've bought a phone with a QWERTY keyboard, I rarely carry my PDA. It's a heck of a lot easier to type out a note to myself on the keyboard than it ever was to write it on my Palm PDA. It's also a heck of a lot easier to enter data on websites with a full keyboard. :)

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  4. Big Brother Google by EtherealStrife · · Score: 4, Insightful
    So they know our credit card info, billing addresses, real names, etc from Google Checkout, they read our emails (Gmail), they know what we've been searching for (Google Search), they have access to our images (Picasa), access to our videos (Google Video), access to our IM habits (Google Talk), they track our movements (Google Earth), and now they want to monitor our telephone conversations? Next we'll be hearing that Cheney's been having secret meetings with Schmidt. . . . :P

    All kidding aside, it's going to be interesting to see what Google eventually does with all this stored information.

    1. Re:Big Brother Google by Sciros · · Score: 3, Funny

      Replace humanity with doppelgangers and by the time the few that are left figure out it will be far too late. Unless those few are ninjas; then the ownage that ensues will be amazing.

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    2. Re:Big Brother Google by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      they track our movements (Google Earth), and now they want to monitor our telephone conversations?

      They'd be tracking our movements via GPS/triangulation, calling habits (pizza/takeout?), and exactly what we're surfing (not just searching!) for. I'm sure the "monitoring of our telephone conversations" would be to display relevant ads on the screen after we regained Internet connectivity.

      To answer your final question: they are going to use it to make more money.

  5. Re:Since when is a corporation "cool"? by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since when is a corporation cool - since forever, that's when. It's called brand image. It is such a significant part of most purchasing decisions that companies will spend huge parts of their advertising budgets enhancing it. Indeed, most ads are selling a lifestyle aspiration, not functionality. i.e. 'drive a MyCarName because it's cool, not 'drive a MyCarName because it gets good gas milage'.

    We /.ers are far too Intelligent to fall for this sort of thing and always make purchasing decisions based on rational argement. And if you'll believe that....

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  6. Names are important. by zenmojodaddy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I move that it be called the Gone. Which gives ample opportunity to display context-sensitive Gone-Ads. At least it would if I didn't have this dang restraining order...

  7. iPhone could still be the name for Apple's phone by adzoox · · Score: 2, Informative

    One is a VOIP phone (released by Cisco/Linksys) ... the other is a cellphone/iPod hybrid ... I honestly think Apple could say that is enough of a differentiation for patent trademark disputes. The main thing to note is that the rumor mill is the one calling it the "iPhone" ... not Apple ... evnthough Apple owns the trademark internationally and owns the domain iPhone.org. Also, this pretty credible storyboard was published yesterday noting the name "iPhone".

    iPhone Storyboard or Ad Design?

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  8. Re:If this is true... by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Informative

    though I wonder why company and government officials always decline confirming or denying so called rumors

    Well, among things, a company like Google is actually owned by its investors, and shares are publicly traded. The SEC gets very, very testy (as do litigious shareholders and their parasitic lawyers) when a publicly traded company does anything that can be construed as falsely painting a picture of business prospects that might impact the value of a share in the company.

    In short, regulations and lawsuits have trained companies to opt for silence, rather than risk being called deceptive - even if they don't start the rumor they're not commenting on. And if someone who works there starts the rumor (or can be said to have leaked something), all sorts of insider-trading ugliness can get bandied about. You get what you reward, and you suppress what you punish.

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  9. Re:If this is true... by Billosaur · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But then again, I think they do like rumors getting out, at least ones that are false, as it keeps their competition guessing, and may get them to sink money into areas Google isn't going to compete with them in. Disinformation can be mighty useful in the corporate world.

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  10. An Industry Truism by CantStopDancing · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People buy on emotion, and justify on fact.

    Pre-purchase: "Drinking that beer will get me laid."
    Post-purchase: "I like this beer because it has high alcohol content."

    An ex-boss of mine used to tell me that even our (then-current) customers bought based on "how will this product help get me laid?" - and we weren't even selling a sexy product.

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  11. "Two most powerful brands"? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

    The collaboration between two of the most powerful brands in technology is seen as a potential catalyst...

    Who the hell is Orange? OK, I looked them up -- they're a big company, and maybe they're known more outside the US, but that brand is hardly on the same level as Google when it comes to world-wide recognition.

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    1. Re:"Two most powerful brands"? by elFarto+the+2nd · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the UK they are one of the 4 big mobile phone providers (O2, Vodaphone, T-Mobile and Orange).

      Regards
      elFarto

    2. Re:"Two most powerful brands"? by QRDeNameland · · Score: 2, Funny

      What surprises me is that no one had yet commented that there may soon be a valid comparison between Apples and Oranges.

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  12. Re:If this is true... by krakelohm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    True, but there is the downside of customers or potential customers getting excited about false rumors. Most of the time products that actually come to fruition are no match for the fantastic rumors that fly wildly. Apple has this problem quite a bit.

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  13. Re:iPhone could still be the name for Apple's phon by korbin_dallas · · Score: 2, Funny

    I better go trademarkthese names then eh?

    iYack.
    iChattyCathy.
    iMultiMediaDevice.
    iVoice.
    iCell.
    iCall.
    iTalk.
    iTunesTalk.
    iTele.
    iTelephone.
    iAnnoyance.
    iBrick.
    iPea, which of course goes right along with iPod.
    iFone, duh?
    iExpensive.

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  14. No, this puts another nail in Microsoft's coffin by skiingyac · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't think Google is doing this for the purpose of enabling fancy feature X or getting its hands in TV/radio/whatever distribution.

    The real killer is that right now the vast majority of Google's users are able to use Google's service thanks to the Microsoft monopoly providing said user with an OS and/or browser. If I were Google, (secret) priority #1 would be to sidestep Microsoft as soon as possible.

    If Google can give people usable cell phone based interfaces to its services, then all Google has to worry about is providing quality services that people want to use, which they seem to be able to with little effort.

    The only middleman then is the cell phone providers, which Google can sidestep by rolling out its own wireless network, probably similar to what Sanswire wants to do (or Google will buy Sanswire) with cheap blimps, then Google can have a way to sell ads to people 24/7 with a device that effectively costs Google $0 because people will be paying to make wireless VoIP calls using the same device.

    This is all hypothetical of course, but its exactly what I would suggest if I worked at Google.

  15. Re:We keep hearing rumors! by iabervon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They'll release it when they can get a cellphone chipset in quantity for less than their profit margin on iPods at the time (after the costs of their components have come down over the course of a product cycle). Then they decide that what they'll announce as the difference between iPod generations is that the new ones are incidentally unlocked GSM cell phones.

    Alternatively, if they decide people want them enough, they do a generation where the storage difference between the $350 and $250 iPods is less, but the $350 one is a cell phone.

    In any case, I bet that Apple will never release a device marketted as a cell phone, because people expect cell phones to be locked, and sold cheap by carriers, and Apple isn't going to want to play that game for a variety of reasons. Nobody's going to pay $350 for an Apple cell phone that plays music, but they'll buy a $350 iPod that makes phone calls, even though these are logically the same device at the same price.

  16. Microsoft fiddles with Zune while... by PatPending · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...Google is racing ahead.

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  17. Madly by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Funny

    Google madly searching for a way to generate revenue before their stockholders regain consciousness...

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  18. Re:If this is true... by FLEB · · Score: 3, Funny

    So the best thing to do is start rumors about things you have no interest in whatsoever, to have no chance or intent of competing with your own hype.

    So, Google Automotive-- what's the word?

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