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Non-Geeky Gifts for Tech Geeks

An anonymous reader writes "FiringSquad.com has just put out another holiday gift guide. They've gathered together, along with the usual video cards and whatnot, several non-techie toys with a techie slant. With the exception of an mp3 and a digital camera, everything else they recommend is stuff I haven't seen on any list before. They have things ranging from $10 to $7500. My favorite has to be the Blendtec blender. 2 horsepower motor. Turns hockey pucks into mulch."

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  1. Love that table of contents by Kelson · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you want to jump ahead in the article, here are your options:

    • Introduction
    • For those who se...
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    Gee, that helps!

    1. Re:Love that table of contents by Joebert · · Score: 2, Funny

      I got to "For thoose who like it fast" & "For thoose who like it in the morning" & lost my train of thought.

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    2. Re:Love that table of contents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    3. Re:Love that table of contents by duguk · · Score: 5, Informative
      Enlightenment LED Torches: Luxeon K2 $299 and Luxeon XO3 $40

      Health Blenders BlendTEC for $400

      Shiny Porter Cable 7424 Random Orbital Sander for $120

      Chill Zwilling J.A. Henckels Cermax M66 Wine Chiller for $130-200 or some knives for $13?

      Look good Canon PowerShot SD800 IS Camera or Fuji F31fd for $400 or Pentax K10D Cameras - $4000

      Loud SV Sound and HSU Research Subwoofers, etc, $400 to $7500

      Fast AMD Processors. Woo!

      Morning Impressa Z6 and Impressa E8 Coffee Machine things for around $1000

      Tradition 1GB IPod Shuffle for $80

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    4. Re:Love that table of contents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your junk text had almost as much content as the article.

    5. Re:Love that table of contents by *BBC*PipTigger · · Score: 2, Funny

      What a bittersweet irony it is that the lameness filter requires so much added lameness to get by it. ;)

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  2. Recommending an iPod? by hypermanng · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While I have no problems with them recommending an iPod - they're okay machines and all - I do sort of wonder why they would make it on their gift list, which would presumably to suggest things one *hasn't* already considered. Can anyone honestly say the thought of giving an mp3 player to someone hasn't occurred to them?

    I was also sort of wondering about the subs - nice recommendations, I must say, but doesn't it make something of an awkward gift? Maybe it's more of a "stuff we thought was neato" list. Certainly the cutlery discussion seemed to wend that way, though even non-chefs could appreciate the novelty of owning a knife that ridiculously fine.

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    1. Re:Recommending an iPod? by joto · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yup, the thought of giving someone an mp3 player has not occured to me. Honestly.

      First of all, they are a bit expensive for a christmas gift, which is more than enough to exclude them from consideration from me. Or, if I choose a cheaper model, they are "a cheaper model". Giving away a "budget mp3 player" is about as fun as giving away a "budget whatever"...

      Secondly, most people either already have one, or don't want one. Third, if they still haven't got one, but want one, they probably want to choose their favourite model themselves, and would be more happy for money. Finally, as even the article suggested, I don't want to become tech-support.

      Apart from all that ranting about mp3-players as christmas gift, I must say that I find most of the suggestions on the list completely ridiculous. These are things geeks want, not things geeks should give away. If you are reading this site, you are already a geek, and knows what geeks want. The thing is, your friends, family, significant other, etc, are most likely not geeks (at least not all of them). Give them something they want, not something you want!

  3. Wow$$$ by StillAnonymous · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A bit pricey, no? $300 for a flashlight? A $3600 capaccino machine?

    Maybe I'm just poor or cheap, but most of these are outrageous. Who is their target audience? Fortune 500 execs?

    1. Re:Wow$$$ by Joebert · · Score: 5, Funny
      Who is their target audience? Fortune 500 execs?

      My money is on the people living in thoose execs basements.
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    2. Re:Wow$$$ by LurkerXXX · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not only that, their blender doesn't even have a pull starter

    3. Re:Wow$$$ by RSquaredW · · Score: 2, Informative

      To be fair, the SureFires are self-defense flashlights. I keep one in my car in the door compartment. They're meant to create an extremely bright light to blind an attacker, and for that job they work well. Easier to use and safer (more range) than a knife, and the cops won't look twice at a guy with a flashlight on his keychain.

      They're definitely not general-purpose lights - you want that very bright light for when you need it. Also, $300 is definitely for their top-of-the-line version - there are good tactical LED flashlights for $60.

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  4. article sucks by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some good gifts:

    * GUI C++ Programming Guide
    * Hex/socket set
    * Leatherman
    * Vernier caliper
    * Dremel or Rotozip set

  5. Why bother? by Captain_Spaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Non-geeky gifts for geeks? Why bother? They're geeks for a reason - they like geeky stuff! It's like getting a pair of socks for xmas... you don't want them, you don't need them, and you'd rather something that plugs into your PC. USB socks, there's a gift...

    1. Re:Why bother? by Sigma+7 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Non-geeky gifts for geeks? Why bother? They're geeks for a reason - they like geeky stuff!


      Most geeky-stuff that non-geeks would consider to be a present for them (e.g. book about computers) is usually something that they would already have anyway.

      Of course, socks can never go wrong, since those things are known to disappear one-at-a-time. Giving them as christmas presents help replenish their stocks.
  6. My god.... by Mogster · · Score: 5, Funny

    it's full of ads!

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  7. Yet another by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yet another website that destroys perfectly playable videos by wrapping them in crappy proprietary Flash.

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    1. Re:Yet another by quacking+duck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Out of curiosity, what's your preferred alternative?

      MPEG - open, but filesizes are too big
      Quicktime - proprietary, not as widely used
      WMV - proprietary
      RealVideo - proprietary, with plenty of Slashdot hate toward the company
      Ogg video - no market penetration
      XVID/various "divx" AVIs - low market penetration

      I suppose the best open and reasonably widespread alternative is mpeg 4, but I'm interested in what you think websites ought to use instead of Flash.

    2. Re:Yet another by VENONA · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not the parent, but MPEG4, from what I've seen. I don't really have any experience with divx, though. Am I missing something great? I definitely don't want to mess around with Flash. I'm tired of being bugged about needing the latest player, I don't see what problem it solves that's worth more bloat, etc.

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    3. Re:Yet another by nmb3000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      WMV - proprietary

      It's true that WMV videos are in an ASF container, however the codec itself is an implementation of the VC-1 codec, a standardized codec that is open to free implementation by anyone (like FFmpeg).

      XVID/various "divx" AVIs - low market penetration

      Uh... AVI containers are probably the single most widespread video container available. *Everything* can read them. As for DivX/XviD...

      I suppose the best open and reasonably widespread alternative is mpeg 4

      DivX/Xvid *are* an implementation of MPEG-4, and it's more and more common for systems to have decoders for them. Downside for Internet video is the lack of streaming support--(typically) the entire file has to download to start watching.

      My biggest beef with Flash-served videos are that usually the player sucks making it difficult to seek the video. Additionally, it's hard/impossible to save the video to your hard drive for later/unbuffered viewing. Finally, Flash videos usually suck pretty hard when it comes to quality/filesize tradeoffs.

      Personally, my favorite video format for online stuff would be WMV, mostly because it is designed to stream content and has great support on Windows and Linux (not sure about Apple). The downside is the DRM crap that some people try and throw in, however ignoring that, for streaming and HD playback on Windows it's very good.

      I suppose Quicktime would be next up since the container also supports streaming (Quicktime itself is not a codec, common ones used are Sorenson 3 and H.264), but the Quicktime player for Windows blows hardcore. It is the slowest and most unresponsive application, even running on a brand new dual core system. For that reason alone I avoid .mov files whenever possible.

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  8. Re:All I want for Christmas... by legoburner · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although a bit late for xmas now (or is it), I threw together a brief, 1-page, tech geeks gift list a while back which can be found here. Hopefully it is not modded away into oblivion as being too link-whoreish!

  9. Re:If.... by BluBrick · · Score: 2, Funny
    I wish that I had $3,600 for a coffee maker that is that simple to use, yet squirts out such delicious looking coffee.
    Me? I'll be happy with my $5 Swiss Gold reusable filter that is simple to use yet dribbles out delicious tasting coffee. But you go ahead!
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  10. Turns hockey pucks into mulch. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, that's fine if you intend to get your daily fibre from nearby trees. If you'd prefer something with a bit more taste a Hinari Genie can grind, blend and juice.

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  11. Non-geeky? by Zorque · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The subs and the Core 2 Duo are fairly geeky things to want, I would think.

  12. Re:If.... by udderly · · Score: 2, Informative

    That blender is off the hook. Did you see the video of it reducing the rake handle to dust? Crap, one of their blenders has a freakin' 20 amp motor. I just bought a hammer drill that can punch through three feet of concrete and it only has a 7.5 amp motor.

    Admittedly, I haven't a clue what I would do with a 20-amp blender, but it looks impressive.

  13. Re:Who would pay $300 for an LED flashlight by joto · · Score: 2

    when you "into" flashlights, you'll find out that
    1)Maglights are NOT that good - their beam quality sucks
    2)Maglight is the Microsoft of flashlights - they use lawsuits to prevent a LOT of competition

    I'm not into flashlights, apart from the fact that I use them a lot. And maglite makes dependable flashlights that most likely still gives you the most bang for the buck.

    Ok, maglite has a lot of models, but as far as I'm concerned, there are two models worth considering.

    The Maglite charger is a classic. It gives a lot of light, adjustable from flooding to a narrow beam. True enough, in some positions the beam has lots of dark rings and/or spots, but it can be adjusted to sane positions without much trouble, and once you've found your favourite position, you don't need to adjust it again unless you have lent it to someone (takes about 1 second to get it back). On the upside, they are cheap, dependable, long-lasting, repairable, easy to charge, and has all the accesories you need, such as belt-holder, car-charger, etc... And you can get parts from just about any supplier.

    The other model worth considering is the 2AA minimag LED. While not up there with the most expensive surefire/inova/whatever flashlights, it's still a practical, cost-efficient, dependable performer. Most importantly, it runs from AA rechargeables, which means you don't have to spend all your cash on expensive lithium batteries (which quickly adds up, when you need a new pair every night). OK, I would prefer it to be a bit shorter (the old minimag was better in that regard), but you can't get it all.

    Now, go ahead and make fun of all the other mag flashlights in existence. The old minimag, solitaire, C and D-cell models are all outdated (and yes, this includes the C and D-cell leds). But the new minimag LED is a welcome update, and the old charger will probably never become obsolete. And the competition just can't match the price AND quality of maglite, it always becomes a choice between price OR quality (I had a Pelican M6 once, which seemed like a reasonable choice between price and quality, but it lasted less than 3 months and cost me a fortune in lithium batteries, whereas my old minimag has lasted for 3 years without problems (before I got the Pelican, and now minimag LED))

    As for lawsuits, sure, I've heard people complain. I don't particularly care. Just like geeks have a hard time telling non-geeks to avoid microsoft for ethical reasons, you will have a hard time telling me to avoid mag for ethical reasons. I just like two of their models, and don't care about patent issues.

  14. Re:Who would pay $300 for an LED flashlight by triffid_98 · · Score: 3, Funny
    when you "into" flashlights, you'll find out that
    1)Maglights are NOT that good - their beam quality sucks
    2)Maglight is the Microsoft of flashlights - they use lawsuits to prevent a LOT of competition

    3)9 out of 10 officers prefer the 5 D-cell Maglight to conventional police batons.
  15. Blending a Blendtec blender by Traf-O-Data-Hater · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...is what I'd like to see. Well, if not the glass jug then at least the base part with motor and electronics.

  16. YAGDOIPPL by glwtta · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yet another god-damned

    One

    Item

    Per

    Page

    List

    You know what? I don't think I can stand the internet anymore.

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  17. Re:Any geek would love to get... by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No. I despise those things. When I'm typing, I don't want to have to turn my amps to 11 just to hear my music (well, when I do listen to music).

    QUIET.

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  18. That? That's not a blender... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 3, Interesting
    1. Re:That? That's not a blender... by ofcourseyouare · · Score: 3, Funny

      Absolutely, and for all those wannabe murderers on one's Xmas prezzie list -- the perfect way to dispose of the body without worrying about those pesky dental records...

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  20. Non-geeky? Don't think so Len... by swordgeek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Every item on that list was geeky--most just didn't happen to be geeky in a computer-centric fashion.

    A few points here:
    1) Pod espresso machines are NEVER as good as you can make with really fresh, properly ground coffee, in a good machine, with some significant practice. At the same time, they're probably not as bad as most people are likely to get, since people are lazy. On the other hand, espresso geekery is absolutely first-rate.
    2) Knife hardness != knife sharpness.
    3) Subwoofers should be purchased with the speakers, and should be designed together.
    4) Actually, I'm going to stop. This was just a crappy article all 'round.

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    1. Re:Non-geeky? Don't think so Len... by phoenix123 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry to dismiss point 2):

      Knife hardness == edge retaining

      It's not difficult to get any decent steel knife sharp as a razor. Any knife sharpener can do it. The trick is to have a blade that will retain that sharpness for a while. A very cheap knife will lose its sharpness after slicing the first half of a cucumber, better knives last for cutting half a dozen steaks out of raw meat and professional knives need only one re-sharpening per cooking session. If you seldomly prepare larger meals, any _decent_ knife is enough, no matter what the ads are telling. If you earn a living preparing meals, it's an entirely different matter, though. You'd probably go crazy with knives and sharpening stones through the course of a day :)

      One more thing for households:
      -do not clean your good knives in a dishwasher, stainless steel cannot retain edges well enough, so good knives are invariably more prone to stains.
      -rinse immediately after using them, especially after cutting fruits. A sharp edge is an infinitely thin part of metal that is not really resistant to even mild acids. Avoid spilling Coca Cola on them for the same reason :). Using different knives for meat, vegetables and fruits is recommended: meat needs sharpness and doesn't contain acids to eat away the blade - fruits may or may not need incredible sharpness, so you could do with a more stain-resistant knife (less sharp) or a smaller knife made of less resistant steel (sharp but cheap = expendable)
      -don't store them in a drawer or box, use a magnetic holding bar mounted on a wall or a wooden "quiver" instead. Many hard tools with vulnerable edges thrown together damage each other when their container is moved. ,
      -don't sharpen them too much, but sharpen them regularly. The sharp edge isn't simply sheared off through usage, it's folded to the side instead. A sharpening stone brings it up again and hones off wear. If you don't sharpen it, microscopic cracks form and increase edge corrosion plus you need more force driving the knife through the material, increasing shear stress on the folded edge, eventually tearing off parts of it.

  21. Re:I need geek gifts for non-geeks by jacquems · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Kitchen appliances/gadgets seem to go over well with geeks and non-geeks alike. They're certainly popular with the kitchen hackers in our house.

    Also, Heston Blumenthal and other proponents of molecular gastronomy have taken cooking to a seriously geeky level. Heston Blumenthal has written several books that would make excellent gifts to get non-geeks to question how they think about cooking.

  22. Amen! by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful
    A bit pricey, no? $300 for a flashlight? A $3600 capaccino machine? Maybe I'm just poor or cheap, but most of these are outrageous. Who is their target audience? Fortune 500 execs?

    Amen! I'm always amused at "gift guides" that are composed of items that are hundreds of dollars. Just how the hell much money do these people think my family is worth at Christmas? A really expensive Christmas gift to me is around $50. If I were married, I'd probably spring for $100 or so for my wife.

    Yet I see guides like this, hear radio ads telling me to by diamonds that cost hundreds or thousands of dollars, or even to do something stupid like buy a new car for my hypothetical wife. A new car? Do these people honestly think I would make such a huge decision without the knowledge, full acceptance, and blessing of my wife?

    Am I just the world's biggest cheapskate?

    Wait, no, I think I know what's going on here. They want me to think I'm a cheapskate if I don't buy hundreds of dollars worth of crap for my family for Christmas.

    Well, I'm sorry, the joke's on them. I think that along with the lesser-expensive gifts I give to my family, a really nice one is not begging them for money the rest of the year because I'd be in debt beyond my imagination for burning through money like that. And call me crazy, but I also think that a really nice gift for one's spouse instead of earrings or a new car that you don't need is—gasp!—a realistic plan for retiring some day so that we can spend wonderful decades together without having to work our asses off for useless junk like, well, a $300 flashlight or a $3600 cappuccino maker!

    Honestly, $300 for a fucking flashlight? If someone game me one of those, I wouldn't be grateful, I'd be extremely condescending. "You spend $300 for a fucking flashlight? Did you win the lottery, or are you just too damned stupid to know that you can get a really good one at Target for less than $10?"

    What scares this geek is that there are obviously people out there who actually buy this junk. What's doubly scary is that they're pitching it to my friends and family as if I actually would want any of this crap. God, I hope they're not that stupid.

  23. karmawhore by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Informative

    link to single page print-ready version, so you don't have to click through page after page of minimal text and maximal ads.

    http://www.firingsquad.com/print_article.asp?curre nt_section=Features&fs_article_id=2069

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  24. If you pay monthly, it doesn't count! by Ahnteis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It doesn't matter that your $50k in debt--as long as you can make the minimum monthly payment!

    What national debt problem?