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Memories of a Media Card

twistedmoney99 writes "Anyone who has upgraded their digital camera probably has a few older, incompatible media cards lying around — so why not post them on Ebay? Well, if you do, be sure to properly wipe them because the digital voyeurs are watching. Seth Fogie at InformIT.com purchased a bunch of used cards from Ebay and found recoverable data on most of them. Using the freely available PhotoRec application, he was able to extract pictures, movies, and more from apparently formatted cards. The picture is clear — wipe anything that can store digital data before getting rid of it."

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  1. Re:Memory effect by plover · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The only issue I have with Peter's paper (and it's a good one, I read it several years ago) is that it's examining hard drives that are now over ten years old. The "residue" he found of previous passes of data was due in large part to sloppy manufacturing processes, machine tolerances, and out-of-spec electronics.

    Modern drives now have data densities two orders of magnitude higher than those on which he did his research. Many of those stray effects have been largely eliminated by higher precision electronics.

    Picture in your mind how a hard drive works: the head swings left-and-right, and feedback from a servo track tells the arm when it's centered over the desired data track. In the old days, that arm just had to be close enough. Reading overwritten data worked by checking the area around a bit to see if there was evidence of other bits written when the arm was in a different position. This shows up as higher or lower signal strength.

    All that slop was robbing the drive of potential places to store data. By making the mechanics more precise, manufacturers are able to squeeze more cylinders onto a platter, and bits on a track. The slop Peter was able to discover has been largely eliminated.

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  2. Re:Memory effect by Blkdeath · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm sorry, but I don't have any way of publicly contesting this argument and still seem credible. And no offence, but even if I put forth the effort to satisfy your curiosity and yours alone (IE, can it be recovered, or is the data gone)...I feel my time would have been wasted. I'm sure if the tables were turned, you feel the same way.

    The fact that I know people who work in criminal forensics labs and recover data for a living aside, you're obviously set in your opinion. I know however that they can recover data from drives that are more seriously mangled than a simple three pass overwrite. If you want to bet your money or your freedom on your opinion that's one thing, but is it too much to ask that you stop posing yourself as some kind of expert on the subject until you become further educated on the subject?

    An aside, BTW; I'm tired of reading of the so-called "DoD specifications" for wiping a hard drive. Yes, they exist in the form of software tools etc. but they're for NON CLASSIFIED DATA ONLY. For top-level classification their specification to ensure data destruction remains to this day in the belly of an incinerator. If you don't want a casual user to recover your data with freely available tools and a few hours of spare time the utilities and methods posed will work just fine. If, however, you don't want your {insert law-voilating material here} to be found by actual law enforcement agents, you'd be best served to turn your hard drive and all memory devices into a molten pile of materials and let them have at it.

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