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Seagate Plans 37.5TB HDD Within Matter of Years

Ralph_19 writes "Wired visited Seagate's R&D labs and learned we can expect 3.5-inch 300-terabit hard drives within a matter of years. Currently Seagate is using perpendicular recording but in the next decade we can expect heat-assisted magnetic recording (HARM), which will boost storage densities to as much as 50 terabits per square inch. The technology allows a smaller number of grains to be used for each bit of data, taking advantage of high-stability magnetic compounds such as iron platinum." In the meantime, Hitachi is shipping a 1 TB HDD sometime this year. It is expected to retail for $399.

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  1. Terabits??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's bad enough that hard drive manufacturers are dead set on confusing people with 1,000,000,000-byte GBs. Do they really need to start throwing around figures in Terabits? Seriously, enough is enough...

    1. Re:Terabits??? by AikonMGB · · Score: 5, Funny

      Through the magic of math: Tb / 8 = TB and so (300Tb)/8 = 37.5TB

      /GASP

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    2. Re:Terabits??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      actually they are. according to IEC 60027-2
      1 kilobyte (kB) = 1000 bytes
      1 kibibyte (kiB) = 1024 bytes

      come on, the original specs date back from 1999.

    3. Re:Terabits??? by jZnat · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean 4 instead of 10 you insensitive clod!

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  2. Backup Solution? by LibertineR · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want to see the tape drive for that thing, Bitches.

    1. Re:Backup Solution? by LibertineR · · Score: 5, Funny
      I swear to God this is true. I had a client ask me to create two partitions on a 500G drive, which was loaded with 200G of medical insurance claims. When I asked why, he said that although he didnt want to buy another drive, he understood the importance of having a backup for his data.

      I sprained a rib, choking back a laugh.

  3. That's great. by Aladrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's a great amount of storage and a great price, but what about some REAL information: Speed, heat, power consumption. If for the same price I can run 4 250gb drives and save on heat and increase speed, this doesn't make sense to do. If I can run 6 and RAID them, and gain security, it really doesn't make sense.

    The largest drive in the world isn't any use to me if it's slower than a 3.5" floppy or I can use it to replace my space heater.

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    1. Re:That's great. by ImdatS · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just quickly, the specs I found for the Hitachi Drive:

      - 5 discs, two heads each, rotating at 7200 RPM
      - 1070Mbps transfer rate
      - 8,7ms avg seek time
      - 4,17ms avg latency
      - around 9 watts power consumption while in "inactive-mode" (NOT reading or writing)

      Hope this helps

  4. Re:Reliability? by flyingfsck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, if it doesn't work, just use a bigger HAMR...

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  5. Re:product looking for a market by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Data centers spend millions (literally) on storage. Try pricing a few hundred terabyte solutions, and you'll see.

    Besides, if you could store all of music/movies/images that where -ever- created on your home drive (not just those copies of libraries of congress), why not? I'd certainly wouldn't mind having all that storage---cheaply.

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  6. Re:product looking for a market by William_Lee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Two words... p0rn and piracy...

  7. Coming Soon: The LTO-48! by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...the tape will be in a cartridge that holds a spool 65cm in diameter, holds approximately 600TB (1200TB w/ compression) and will require an autoloader that eats at least one rack for the entry-level 8-tape kit. /dev/nst0 will weigh in at 38kg, and cleaning will require a tape w/ 6000-grit sandpaper in place of media.

    All BS aside: you do bring up an excellent point. I'm a guy who has to do backup/recovery, and I've found that even a fully compressed LTO-3 will barely --just barely-- hold up to 1.2TB if you rig it right (by combining hardware/software compression, and the love that Bacula gives it (though admittedly sparse file handling most likely has inflated the reported amount of stuff).

    Anyrate, that boils down to --maybe-- two full HDD's if the two are 500GB SATAs.

    The good news is, after you pare down the crap you really don't need to backup, it usually isn't all that much for most companies. You can safely exclude out most of the OS itself for starters... w/ kickstart on RHEL and a .ks file that replicates what you've got on a given server (partitions, packages, etc), you can cut a LOT out.

    Even more good news - if you get up a monster RAID array of similar drives (full SAN kitting or just attached to a big ol' server, no biggie), you can use it instead of tapes for most of your day-to-day backup. Then latch your tape drive or autoloader onto it and only commit to tape the reallly vital stuff that requires a long retention period. Most backup software suites (even Bacula) support writing to file as well as tape, so this shouldn't be too big of a problem for a sysadmin if s/he knows what s/he's doing.

    Adaptation and all that.

    But then, most of the servers in my care consist of a pile of RAID5'ed SCSI drives that range 36-140GB in size... and I doubt that most of them will get much bigger before it's time to replace the servers themselves. Just because you can get monster capacity on a single drive, doesn't mean that you need to or even want to.

    Now if I already had a monster robotic multi-drive tape library running 24/7 now, and the boss wants to up the HDD capacity on a given pile of servers because he pretty much has to? Yeah. That would require a lot more thought and planning, and at that stage of the game a disk backup solution similar to what's been outlined above would be big and ugly, but would pretty much be what you're stuck with having to do.

    ...at least until they come out with the LTO-48 ;)

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  8. Funny you mention that. by Lethyos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The cost, longevity, performance, and capacity is completely inferior to making backups of disks onto other disks, and has been for quite some time. I have no idea why people ever stick with tape at all these days other than for nostalgia. Does it feel good to have a cartridge using a remarkably old fashion approach to data storage or are people just ill-informed?

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    1. Re:Funny you mention that. by clydemaxwell · · Score: 4, Informative

      Who the hell modded you up? You have obviously never been involved in a large-scale backup solution.
      Disks DIE. Tapes rarely do (comparatively). Tapes, although slow and linear, are incredibly durable.

      HDDs aren't exactly volatile, but they are a heck of a lot more susceptible to corruption and failure due to the fact that you have both a magnetic storage medium AND the circuitry to power and control it on one device. And if one dies, you're pretty much fucked. A tape is only one of these, and is simpler and more reliable.

      So why do we do things the old-fashioned way? Because it FSCKING WORKS!!

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  9. Re:ANOTHER LIE by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix

    Kilobyte = 1000 bytes
    Megabyte = 1000 kilobytes
    Gigabyte = 1000 megabytes
    Terabyte = 1000 gigabytes
    Kibibyte = 1024 bytes
    Mebibyte = 1024 kibibytes
    Gibibyte = 1024 mebibytes
    Tebibyte = 1024 gibibytes

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  10. HAMR not HARM by cheese-cube · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's HAMR not HARM. Heat-Assisted Magnetic Recording. Here's the relevant Wikipedia article: HAMR.

  11. 300 teraBIT, 37.5 teraBYTE. by freeweed · · Score: 5, Informative

    FYI, 300 / 8 = 37.5

    Sweet jesus, do you people not even read the summary anymore??

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