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'Web 2.0' Most Popular Wikipedia Entry

theodp writes "It came as no surprise to Tim O'Reilly that Nielsen BuzzMetrics found 'Web 2.0' the most cited Wikipedia article of the year (as measured by blog mentions). After all, says Tim, 'the Wikipedia article on Web 2.0 is indeed pretty darn good.' IIRC, the Web 2.0 Trademark Scandal was also good for a citation or two. BTW, the material in the article crediting O'Reilly & Co. with originating the term 'Web 2.0' was first contributed by '209.204.147.33', which is coincidentally an O'Reilly IP address."

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  1. Press Release provides incentive to manipulate? by Salvance · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After seeing the "Top Blogs Mention 'Wikipedia'" section in the press release, I wonder how many SEO obsessed bloggers will insert the word 'wikipedia' over and over in their posts (or link to it in every post). I'll bet by next year, the # of mentions of the word 'wikipedia' will go up by at least 10X due to this reason alone.

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    1. Re:Press Release provides incentive to manipulate? by Nik13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, I bet most of these linkers are from sites catering to web designers trying to explain the latest fad.

      As far as traffic to different encyclopedias, it's not surprising at all. I have the Encarta DVD (and older versions of Britannica and Universalis) and see no reason to consult it online - I don't think I've ever tried it once. But my main reason to use wikipedia is because it has *DIFFERENT CONTENT* - not because it's available online or for free. e.g. Encarta has articles about classic music and such, whereas on wikipedia you'll find lots of articles over other types of music and musicians that you wouldn't normally find elsewhere, like say, Chris Barnes (from death metal groups CC & SFU) -- try finding things like that on Encarta or Britannica! But then again, the DVD-based encyclopedias have videos, games, sounds, lots of photos and other multimedia content you won't find online on wikipedia, not counting specialized versions like MS Student, which my kids also love. They have different content and content types, so they *COMPLEMENT* each other. They're not directly competing IMO (even though others will surely disagree on that one).

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  2. as a matter of fact... by macadamia_harold · · Score: 5, Funny

    It came as no surprise to Tim O'Reilly that Nielsen BuzzMetrics found 'Web 2.0' the most cited Wikipedia article of the year (as measured by blog mentions).

    As a matter of fact, its popularity has tripled in the last six months.

    1. Re:as a matter of fact... by neoform · · Score: 2, Funny

      In other news, Slashdot's new most popular tag is "slownewsday"..

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  3. Web 2.0 by shirizaki · · Score: 5, Funny

    Same crap, now with rounded edges and fading effects.

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    1. Re:Web 2.0 by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but your statement is worthless without a 'link.

      Yes, but your statement is worthless without a working 'link

    2. Re:Web 2.0 by ArcherB · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have to agree with you and Tim Berners-Lee and say that this is nothing more than a buzzword. "Web 1.1" maybe, but until it's based on a new protocols and possibly "pipes", it does not deserve a complete, whole number upgrade, or at least not an even number.

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    3. Re:Web 2.0 by Basehart · · Score: 2, Informative

      Thanks Rik - you saved the day (sheesh, talk about kicking a link when it's down):

      link

    4. Re:Web 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      But it makes the "back" button useless... hence a FULL version upgrade.

  4. Wikipedia is amazing by syphax · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I've come to realize that I almost always use Wikipedia as my first stop when researching something I want to learn about. I realized that I was scanning search results for a wikipedia link (now I just go straight to the wikipedia search), and chose that first.

    Yes, I know Wikipedia isn't always accurate. Shocking, on a site where anyone can pretty much edit anything. But the breadth of content, and the relatively uniform structure, and the reasonable level of accuracy make Wikipedia my preferred initial stop for most casual research.

    It really is an amazing phenomenon.

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    1. Re:Wikipedia is amazing by markwalling · · Score: 2, Informative

      i changed the wp keyword search in firefox to be http://www.google.com/search?q=site:en.wikipedia.o rg+%25s. i find mediawiki's search engine kinda clunky

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  5. Because no one understand it. by shagymoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone runs to Wikipedia to figure out what the hell Web 2.0 is because nobody knows. I'm not sure the people editing know. As far as I can tell it's just AJAX...so why not call it AJAX? There's no damn VERSIONS of the web!

  6. Web 2.0 = Hype by cephalien · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even if it -wasn't- the most seen term on Wikipedia; it's going to be now.

    Why is this news?

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  7. Re:Are the traditional resources ... by solevita · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You think Wikipedia is good? You should try a library!

  8. Bullshit Bingo by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone runs to Wikipedia to figure out what the hell Web 2.0 is because nobody knows. I'm not sure the people editing know. As far as I can tell it's just AJAX...so why not call it AJAX? There's no damn VERSIONS of the web!

    Ah, but the article claims not that it's the most researched term, but the most *cited*! That means loads of morons are citing Web 2.0, talking about Web 2.0, and claiming to be web 2.0, as if it was an actual cohesive thing. Or that it was in any substantial way different than Web 1.0, or Web 0.95 RC2.

    It's just buzzword (or bullshit) bingo. These kiddies will be the same ones talking about paradigm shifting your out of the box thinking in a proactive way, or whatever the buzzwords are in 20 years when they have jobs.

    1. Re:Bullshit Bingo by Billosaur · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's just buzzword (or bullshit) bingo.

      Otherwise known as marketing... Because ultimately that's all Web 2.0 is: a marketing gimmick. Somehow, you're still using Web 1.0, when here stands the bright new, shiny, multi-functional Web 2.0. It's still all servers running software, just with different software. There's nothing ground-breaking or earth-shattering here, like the first vestiges of a global AI consciousness springing full-blown. This smacks of all those "Upgrade to AOL *.0" campaigns of yesteryear.

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  9. FOSS / Subscription Model by Genocaust · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It should come as no surprise, then, that actual encyclopedias such as Britannica and Columbia have nowhere near the web readership as their Wiki counterpart these days. Oh, well, that couldn't possibly be at all related to Wikipedia being free and the others charging. No, not at all.
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  10. Web 2.0 Is Hilarious by Hoplite3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    From Rich "Lowtax" Kyanka at somethingawful.com:

    Question: What is Web 2.0?
      Answer: Web 2.0 is a combination of Web 1.0 and being punched in the dick.

    Question: How do I know I'm using a website / service / product that is officially "Web 2.0" and not actually "Web 1.0" with various patches and enhancements added to it?
    Answer: Web 2.0 is made obvious by the addition of completely and highly unnecessary bells and whistles that don't do anything besides annoy you and make life more complicated. If Web 1.0 was the equivalent of reading a book, Web 2.0 is reading a book while all the words are flying around and changing pages as the book rotates randomly and sets your hands on fire. Also there's this parrot that keeps on flying towards your head in repeated attempts to gouge out your eyes.

    Question: I read about this one website in Wired Magazine. Is that Web 2.0??
    Answer: Oh definitely. Wired won't even mention Web 1.0 sites. Every single site in their magazine is at least Web 2.0. Sometimes they're even up to Web 45.2 (such as www.ebutts-and-credit-reports-delivered-via-carrie r-pidgeon.com)!

    Question: My roommate said he "digged" a "wikipedia entry" about "the blogosphere" which mentioned "podcasting" as a viable form of "crowdsourcing."
    Answer: Your roommate is a faggot. Also, this wasn't technically a question.

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  11. No Thanks, I'm Holding Out for Web 3.0 by tylersoze · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here is best explanation of what exactly Web 2.0 is that I've seen :) http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=4366

    1. Re:No Thanks, I'm Holding Out for Web 3.0 by geoffspear · · Score: 2, Funny

      Holding out? I'm already using the Web3.0.2 beta. It's great.

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  12. Re:Are the traditional resources ... by solevita · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wasn't going for humour. Let's expand my point a little.

    Now, I'm used to a pretty good library service (I've got a Masters degree from a pretty big university), but I think that my point will stand for a whole range of libraries.

    Ease: I've found libraries to be very easy to search - if you can work google, you can work the majority of library database search tools. Sure, you may not be able to do in text searching for a book (although you can for most online journal services), but you can use google to do that or, now this is a shocker, do some reading yourself. In short, finding stuff in books is easy. As for books being heavy, or on a high shelf; if you really have used a computer for so long that your body has withered away, I think books will be the last of you worries. I'd be much more concerned about walking to the library and getting mugged on route.

    Vastness: No contest.

    Updating: If I wanted something that wasn't in stock, it could be ordered. More often, however, a nearby library would have the book and I'd get it on inter-library loan. Basically, if a book came out, I could get a copy very quickly.

    Decentralised: Much more than en.wikipeida.org.

    Accuracy: You seem to be confusing "accuracy" and "neutrality". Almost nothing is published from a neutral viewpoint - you can't blame this on libraries. The problem with Wikipedia is that it claims to be neutral when it clearly is not. As with searching for things in books, the key to making judgements concerning the accuracy or neutrality of a book is to actually read it, then some more on the same subject.

    Wikipedia might be great for people that have no intention or requirement to actually read things; it might be great for getting quick definitions of some TLA you've not encountered before, but it will never replace a library. For people that have to read things and produce credible pieces of work, Wikipedia is a joke: It will never replace traditional publishing. That was what I was trying to get across in my original post. If you found it funny, however, then even better!

  13. Correct spelling by Vadim+Makarov · · Score: 2, Funny

    It should come as no surprise, then, that actual encyclopedias such as Britannica and Columbia

    Should have read "It should come as no surprise, then, that {other|traditional|old|smaller} encyclopedias such as Britannica and Columbia"

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  14. Re:Different beasts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    But most importantly for an average user, the ability to click-through to hundreds of interesting topics in a single sitting is the most attractive part of Wikipedia.
     
    And secondly it has the words Don't Panic inscribed in large friendly letters on its cover.. oh wait.

  15. Uptime pretty good as well... by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2

    A year ago it was a pain in the ass to edit a wikipedia article, as the servers were always going down. Uptime is much improved now. The fund drive shows that a lot of people (and a few corporations) are finding it useful to fund this public experiment.

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  16. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Insightful

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  17. Most viewed by arvindn · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The most viewed pages stats present a very different story. Ignoring wikipedia-related pages and recently featured articles, the top few are:

    Wii
    Sex
    World War II
    United States
    Christmas
    Deaths in 2006
    Naruto
    Sexual intercourse
    Pornography
    The Holocaust
    List of big-bust models and performers
    List of sex positions

    Sad.

  18. incest by peter303 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wikipedia is a Web 2.0 application due to its collaborative nature.

  19. "'Web 2.0' Most Popular Wikipedia Entry"? by baKanale · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well of course it is! It's just been slashdotted!

  20. Web 2.0 is all about s2s by brian_252 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People who think sites like Wordpress blogs aren't Web 2.0 because it has rounded corners and faded headers just don't get it. It's Web 2.0 because it connects your blog to Amazon Wishlist, Cafe Press, Flickr (14 plugins), Last.fm, Netflix, Yahoo, Akismet, etc. http://wp-plugins.net/ lists 182 plugins that connect to external tools.

    Web 2.0 is not about the user interface. It's about the server to server interface.

    It's not just social networking as in Orkut. But if your profile on a phpBB website listed your friends as you have them listed in Orkut, that's Web 2.0.

  21. Re:Padded article count in Wikipedia by discord5 · · Score: 2, Funny
    but at one stage it falsely listed him as a child sex offender for over an hour and a half.

    Damn, they removed it? I'll just have to edit it again.