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Open Project to Develop Renewable Energy System

rohar writes "We have been working on a system that combines some existing indirect solar technologies to build a location independent, renewable, reliable and economically feasible indirect solar electrical power generation system. The idea is to 'roll-your-own' geothermal source by capturing heat from the ambient air with a solar powered absorption heat pump, store it underground and generate electricity from the air cooling convection. When the air is cooler the stored heat is then used in a reverse process to generate electricity by transferring the heat back to the air when it is cooler (at night or seasonal). There are many additional benefits including clean water capture from the "dehumidifier" effect of the air cooling, construction from common materials and thermal storage that may be incorporated into dwelling heat systems." After reading over their description, how likely do you think it is to work?

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  1. Wind turbine by Technician · · Score: 4, Informative

    After looking at the diagram, it is evident the math is not done. A few things come to mind. The most glaring is the wind turbine. Anybody you know of put a turbine in the fireplace flue to get electricity from the heat draft? This is a draft with a large heat change. How much draft do you expect to get from the day/night differential. Don't expect enough juice to power the water pump in a water cooled PC.

    Getting the heat to provide the high pressure ammonia to feed the expansion valve is also a problem. Time to do the math.

    A good place to start is Modern Refrigeration and Air Conditioning.
    http://www.bizrate.com/technologybooks/modern-refr igeration-and-air-conditioning--pid4254146/

    Instead of trying to get high pressure ammonia, look up continious cycle absorption cycle refrigeration. The key is using vapor pressure to your advantage. Day/night cycles are not going to provide the requried amount of pressurised liquid ammonia for the job.

    Study and learn continious cycle absorption cycle refrigeration then redesign and eliminate the expansion valve, & turbine. Add a light weight inhert gas to the entire system to make distilation of ammonia possible and stop uncontrolled reasorption into water.

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  2. It is a solved problem by IMustBeNewHere · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know about the part of his design that is above ground.

    The underground bit however, works well in practice, at least in the Swedish climate.

    Extracting heat from a temperature differential with a heat pump and storing it in the ground, is in wide commercial use here, and you can save money on it.

    In a quick search in the Swedish yellow pages, I found hundreds of contractors to choose from.

    There has also been plenty of research conducted in this field in various Swedish universities. The article author would probably save himself a lot of time if he looked some of it up. Here are a couple of abstracts (in English and Swedish):
    http://www.lib.kth.se/main/stems_projektrapporter. asp?subj=vp