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Wireless Power Gets A Boost

srizah writes "At CES, Las Vegas, two companies — Arizona-based WildCharge and Michigan-based Fulton have demonstrated what are very different ways to charge gadgets sans wires. "

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  1. I, for one ... by milo_a_wagner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Can't wait for this stuff. Imagine it - slap your mobile down on your desk and it's charged. Your MacBook - chargind while you use it with no wires. Awesome. A pad that can charge multiple devices (as in the article) would also be great. But how realistic is this, by which I mean, how far away is this tech from being 'in the shops'? I suspect it'll be some time. Wingrove says their first device will be available this Summer, but I'm sceptical. And I *don't* want my phone/laptop etc. to have a wireless dongle sticking out of it; almost as unsightly as the power cord.

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    1. Re:I, for one ... by yourexhalekiss · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What is to prevent technologies like this from malfunctioning and frying everyone in the room? I'm not trolling, I'm just curious about the tech behind it.

    2. Re:I, for one ... by rahlquist · · Score: 5, Informative

      Its been in limited use for years in Electric toothbrushes and its relatively safe. If you understand how inductance and transformers work then you've got more than half the understanding.

      From Wikipedia "A transformer is an electrical device that transfers energy from one circuit to another by magnetic coupling with no moving parts. A transformer comprises two or more coupled windings, or a single tapped winding and, in most cases, a magnetic core to concentrate magnetic flux. A changing current in one winding creates a time-varying magnetic flux in the core, which induces a voltage in the other windings."

      Think of these devices as each the charging base and the unit to be charged having half the transformer, bring them into proximity of each other and they begin to work. Ok its an over simplification but thats the basics.

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  2. Re:it's not wireless chumps by milo_a_wagner · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Anything 'not using wires' to connect the devices/power sources/network/whatever is 'wireless'. You're using a stipulative definition of wireless, I think. Not sure.

    What do others think?

    Wiki: The term wireless is normally used to refer to any type of electrical or electronic operation which is accomplished without the use of a "hard wired" connection.

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  3. Re:it's not wireless chumps by milo_a_wagner · · Score: 2, Informative
    I stand corrected!

    The term "wireless" should not be confused with the term "cordless"

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  4. Hardly revolutionary by Rabid+Spud · · Score: 2, Insightful

    when you consider that the key to this device actually operating is that your device needs to be "fitted internally or externally with an adapter... ". Unless this also acts as a transformer then its pretty much useless. I can't see manufactures integrating internal adaptors in their devices either since it increases the device size and introduces heat.

  5. Re:it's not wireless chumps by animaal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    when you have to connect it to something, it's not wireless. quit wasting my time. Wifi is termed "wireless" - even though your 802.11-enabled router is plugged into the wall, and is probably externally connected via an ethernet cable. Your reply might be "Yes, but I can receive a signal on my laptop without the laptop requiring a cable". Well, the same applies here. Your phone can charge without needing a cable plugged into it.
  6. Microwave power transmission by dino213b · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (Or MPT) is an actual working technology already in use - I seem to recall a small experimental, remotely controlled, airplane that was powered this way. A ground microwave dish followed it as it moved across the sky and that powered the motors and other scientific experiments. On the other hand, a stationary object such as a cell phone shouldn't have a problem being powered in a dedicated recharge zone (such as a counter or shelf that would be designated as a human-unsafe area). Wikipedia claims that power transmission efficiencies and radiation are mostly negligible -- if so, does that mean that we should be going after it or is there inherent danger to the process?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_power_trans mission

  7. Re:it's not wireless chumps by binaryspiral · · Score: 4, Informative

    Cheesy Induction ploy, if you have to place it on or in the proximity of a device
    you may as well have wires.


    Induction is a good thing, maybe a bit cheesy at its inception - but wait until it matures. I had a watch that was charged using induction, it allowed it to recharge without having a connection or contacts exposed.

    If this technology improves, it could become very useful.

    For example, power induction systems below road surfaces for hybrid and electric vehicles. Cell phone holders in cars that charge without any contacts to become tarnished or bent.

    I don't see it replacing all hardwired or contact based connections, but it would be a welcomed addition to many devices that are designed for severe duty.

  8. You're partly right by giafly · · Score: 2, Informative

    Transformers certainly get less efficient if you increase the gaps between the components. Think of it like this: one half of the transformer is using electricity to produce a varying magnetic field; the other half is intercepting the varying magnetic field and using its energy to generate electricity; if you increase the spacing then less of the magnetic field is intercepted. This means the system works less hard, so overall it's cooler, but presumably charging takes longer.

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  9. The wireless Desk by cyclomedia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've muttered about this before, what i'd like is a desk that was just a simple large flat inductive surface (with a nice layer of veneer on top). It could handle communication between devices (instead of insecurely and noisily shouting all your data over bluetooth et-al) and power/charge any reasonably small compatible device placed on it (laptops and monitors might be too beefy). digital cameras and ipods could just have a contact plate on one or more surfaces (the bottom of the camera, the back of the ipod) and would just show up a-la USB in your taskbar when you plonk them on the same desk as your PC. you could register your keyboard to your PC but the mouse might need some backup power onboard for when you're thrashing it about. Desks could be wired together to create workgroups in office spaces, that way everyone would be able to use the printer and scanner on the end table as if it were a native device, though they'd need to be queueable and lockable depending on who was using them, but you could still lock-out other people from messing with the digital camera that's on your desk.

    basically expand the computer to include your entire desk, without all the annoying wires

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  10. Re:it's not wireless chumps by Orange+Crush · · Score: 2, Interesting
    we just got a bunch of those induction flashlights at work that are supposed to charge themselves when you shake them... for "safety". Naturally, we disected them the same day we got them, only to find that they are powered by two Lithium batteries.

    Same concept, different application. Those flashlights contain a linear generator. Shaking them charges the batteries by essentially shaking a magnet back and forth past some coiled wire. Inductive chargers contain two coils--one inside the charger and one inside the device. When the charger runs current through its coil, the electrons in the device's coil are essentially "dragged along" too which generates current in the charging device without any metal touching between the charger and the device. This is especially handy for things like shavers and electric toothbrushes as metal contacts can get corroded or grimed up with toothpaste and shaving cream.

  11. Electric toothbrushes by p3d0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Induction is easier to make waterproof than metal wires.

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  12. Re:wireless phones by Amouth · · Score: 4, Funny

    "blow people's minds."

    is that in the make people amazed of new tech way or the hey ya'll watch this, with a tesla coil in the garage way?

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  13. Re:it's not wireless chumps by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I had a watch that was charged using induction, it allowed it to recharge without having a connection or contacts exposed.

    I have a mechanical watch that's "charged" using a pendulum that moves when I move my arm and winds the mainspring. Perhaps such a system could be adapted to things like iPods that often get used on a person of in a vehicle.

    -b.

  14. Funny how time changes a joke's meaning by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 2, Funny

    I recall some fellow techs were working with building planning (.edu) to try
    and get a conference room wired for power/networks.

    Well, the specs were there, but ignored and the floor was poured and set, only
    no power, no network.

    We were livid (ok, I was amused...this is still a .edu, after all).

    One of the higher ups grilled the front man about the situation and wireless networks
    were just getting usable, and it was decided that was the best option.

    Then he had to ask "What about wireless power?"

    Ever the diplomat, the front man gave a good answer of "no can do" and maintained composure.

    Only after he left, I piped up "Sure you can have wirelss power....It's called LIGHTNING!"

    The whole room went silent for a few seconds and then erupted in laughter.

    Became a running gag for a few months, too, if we got annoyed at each other we'd do a "spell casting"
    motion and shout "wireless power" a few times.

    Heh.

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