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Sealand Put Up For Sale

antic writes "The Principality of Sealand is up for sale. The 550 square meter steel platform boasts "uninterrupted sea views", complete privacy and has been mentioned on Slashdot in the past for its offers of hosting outside the jurisdiction of (some) traditional laws."

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  1. I remember Sealand from years ago... by Panaqqa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So it's for sale is it? I seem to recall at the time that their hopes hinged on making it a jurisdiction for legal gambling and other commerce that was heavily regulated in other jurisdictions. So now they want to try their hand at web hosting, do they? Interesting...

  2. sealand is a crock by timmarhy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    there's no land, it's a floating platform off the UK coast. it's as much a nation as my dingy is. it's squatted on by a bunch of inbreds who claim it's there's only because no one could be bothered with the useless floating hunk of junk. i think the brits are secretly hoping a storm will settle it for them. no doubt the current squatters are attempting to offload it an make a profit while they still can.

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  3. Re:How to buy Sealand for free in just 5 steps by zlogic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's an easier way:
    1. Buy Sealand on credit, you can get a loan anywhere these days.
    2. You own Sealand, you are king.
    3. Create a law that forbids the King of Sealand to release loans ;-)

  4. Sealand is all but destroyed by javaDragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to Sealand's official website, the platform sustained heavy damage by fire last summer. From the desperate tone of the account, I gather that Sealand might be very close to uninhabitable by now. That might explain the decision to sell it off, more than the old age of the founder.

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  5. Re:How to buy Sealand for free in just 5 steps by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No longer possible. After Sealand, one of the first things that happened was a change of international jurisdiction concerning such renegade actions.

    You don't think countries enjoy the idea of their subjects declaring independence, do you?

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  6. Re:item you missed by bladesjester · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You never learned how to purify water using solar power?

    Here's the short version:
    Take a large vat full of salt water, place a recepticle in the middle to catch the fresh water, cover over with clear object (preferably concave so the curvature can direct the condensed water toward the fresh water recepticle, and then let the sun do it's work. You periodically remove the fresh water and add more salt water.

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  7. Re:How to buy Sealand for free in just 5 steps by hardburn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That would be considered defaulting on a loan. Countries have a credit rating just like individuals do. The reason the US government can have a multi-trillion doller debt is because it has never defaulted on a loan.

    So sure, you can do that, but it's still going to foobar your credit rating.

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  8. Re:Guns are the assembly code of politics. by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think it's more of an oversimplification than wrong. Canada could probably disband its entire military without threat from the US because the US has no interest in expanding its borders. In fact, it's conceivable that the US would protect Canada from any other potential invaders for no reason other than the US considering this to be the right thing to do. If South Korea disbanded its army then it would quickly become part of North Korea.

  9. Re:Cost/benefit ratio by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Except (and I am a Luxembourger) that in terms of military power, it's usually the army that is in absolute terms bigger that wins... Our army is a joke, and we know it. From what I'm concerned, they can downsize it all they want.

    Also, it used to be that you needed a military training to get access to certain well paid jobs. I think you still do, but not anymore for the most famous one: Postman... Government jobs (or para-government jobs like Postman) here are much better paid than jobs in the private sector. I used to be a teacher (and hated it) and now earn a good 12K€ less per year because I went back to IT in the private sector.

  10. AllOfMp3.com New Headquaters... Found! by Stormx2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With all the money they apparently make, AllOfMp3 should move to Sealand! It would stop all the copyright disputes!!

  11. Re:I should also add by DavidTC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, but if they're not living there, and you are, you can just declare a coup and that you are now president-for-life, then fight them off when they attempt to come back. I'm sure it would be pretty easy to smuggle weapons onto the platform, considering there's probably not even room for a port authority.

    Considering the traditional way of determining the actual 'government' is 'who is in physical control of the country', you are now the ruler of Sealand. They are the 'government in exile'.

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  12. Re:Cost/benefit ratio by Raumkraut · · Score: 2, Interesting
    You can't have a sovereign country without an appropriately sized army to back it up.

    List of countries without armed forces
  13. Re:I should also add by blowdog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sealand say they are a separate country so which legal system is the tenancy agreement written and what court are they going to take you to if you break it.

  14. Re:Stating the obvious. by Cauchy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem is that in 1982, the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea changed international law so that no new artificial platform could claim nation status. While no country explicitly recognizes Sealand, since its claims to independence predates 1982, it is exempt from this convention.

  15. Re:Guns are the assembly code of politics. by StarvingSE · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, the US would protect Canada from other potential invaders because if the invaders took over Canada, the only thing between the US and said foreign invader would be the largest non-militarized border in the world. There's no way in hell the US would tolerate anyone other than Canada to be north of use because invasion of the US would be a cakewalk.

    You don't think the US would expend expensive military resources purely to do "the right thing," do you?

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  16. Yay Plagiarism! by NoTheory · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What a terrible article, the historical facts about Sealand are plagiarized directly from wikipedia.

    Wikipedia:
    In 1978 Dutch and German businessmen, who were on Sealand to discuss a business deal, kidnapped Roy's son. However, they were overpowered, and held as prisoners of war before eventually being released.[2]
    ABCNews Online:
    Four years later, Dutch and German businessmen on Sealand to discuss a business deal kidnapped Roy's son but were overpowered and held as prisoners of war before eventually being released.
    Wikipedia:
    In 1968 Britain's Royal Navy attempted to evict Roy Bates but was unsuccessful.
    ABCNews Online:
    Britain's Royal Navy attempted to evict him the following year but were unsuccessful.


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