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Nano-Scale Optical Co-Axial Cables Announced
toybuilder writes "Reuters reports that scientists have published their work on nano-scale optical coax in the most recent issue of Applied Physics Letters. The coax cable is only about 300nm wide, and is able to transmit optical signals using a carbon center conductor, transmitting light at about 90% the speed of light."
The coax cable is only about 300nm wide,...
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The coax cable is only about 300nm wide, and is able to transmit optical signals using a carbon center conductor, transmitting light at about 90% the speed of light.
methinks the speed of light is whatever speed the light travels at.
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I should mention that that was going through a block of sodium at -272C (near absolute zero)
Right, because the slashdot poster definitely understands the details of the physics publication in a peer-reviewed physics journal, written by experts in the field, and can clearly question its validity in the three seconds it takes to read a slashdot summary.
Here's an idea, instead of immediately trying to show how smart you are by posting minutes after an article goes up just to say "this is dumb", have a little faith in the scientific publication process and actually read the (original, peer-reviewed) article before you jump to conclusions.
You have faith in the peer reviewed physics journal? You must not know any of the peers, or have any insight into the review process. Trust me, its a mess. Although I am not a physicist myself, my friends who are complain to no end at the state of affairs with the journals. Its not that everything published is wrong, its just most of it is very, very difficult to review and very very little of it is worth reading. Its never wrong to ask stupid questions, or compare new discoveries to existing models of thought on a discussion forum. Of course, in this case it answers the question in the article, but it should have been in the summary.
It was my understanding that electric fields propagate through copper at about 1/3 C.
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The thinner the fiber, the less the digital light pulses are spread (due to reflections on the fiber shell) per unit distance, the more information can be sent through per unit time.
Thinner means more bandwidth.
Rybczynski, J.; Kempa, K.; Herczynski, A.; Wang, Y.; Naughton, M. J.; Ren, Z. F.; Huang, Z. P.; Cai, D.; Giersig, M. "Subwavelength waveguide for visible light" Applied Physics Letters 2007, 90, (2), 021104. (doi: 10.1063/1.2430400).
The paper is here, although only subscribers can read the fulltext. The abstract says this:
These are extremely small structures and this leads to an interaction between the light (which is an electromagnetic wave of course) that is essentially identical to when radiofrequency EM radiation propagates down a normal (macroscopic) coax cable. Specifically, in the introduction they say:
Then they go through the details. Their device uses a multiwall carbon-nanotube (MWCNT) as the center conductor (it is a 'metallic' CNT). The MWCNT is embedded in aluminum oxide, which acts as the optically transparent 'dielectric'. The outer wrapping electrode is made of chromium.
The mere creation of these nano-sized devices is quite an accomplishment. The fact that they've demonstrated successful transmission of light through these sub-wavelength sized devices is even more impressive. I can imagine a wide range of applications in nano-scale imaging (imagine a massive array of NSOMs), lithography, or even optical computing.
Yes, I DO have faith in the peer review process. It's far from perfect, but it's not as bad as you make it out to be. The thing you need to know is, a lot of physicists, and scientists in general (myself included) can be really anally retentive bastards. I one got blasted for fifteen minutes over my use of the phrase "high reynolds number" when the colleague in question believed "moderate" was the appropriate adjective and "high" was misleading. These are the types of errors that get physicists steaming, and with good reason - physics is perhaps the most rigorous of the sciences, and you have to be damn careful about how you word things. People will complain, loudly, about very minor issues. Many scientists strive for absolute perfection, and fixate on the negatives in an attempt to make the process better. There's nothing wrong with this, but it's useful to keep in mind when you form opinions about the peer review process based on your friends' complaints.
When people bitch about physics journals, in my experience it's been mainly for two common reasons:
1.) Drawing large, over-arching conclusions without enough evidence to support it. This is in no way saying the bulk of the work is invalid, just that the authors got a little greedy when writing the conclusions.
2.) Disagreement with the underlying assumptions that make up the paper. This one is trickier, but again it doesn't immediately invalidate the work, just questions how relevant the results are.
In either case, the peer review process, by people well-versed in the field, is a whole HELL of a lot more trustworthy than the slashdot peanut-gallery. The OP was full of crap, and others have gone into great detail to explain why he/she is full of crap. I was merely pointing out that the knee-jerk slashdot "post early, post often" karma whoring competitions lead to a whole lot of dumbass assertions without any firm understanding of the actual facts of the discussion.
Will someone tell me *why* they did this? Yes, it's very cool. But the whole and only point of coax, as they talk about in TFA, is that it minimizes electrical influence.
If you're using light, there *isn't* any electrical interference, either as a transmitter or a receiver. That's one of the major benefits of using light.
So it's kind of pointless to make a coax, unless you really want a two-channel transmitter where one's a funny ring-shape. In which case, why not make optical ribbon cable?
Which brings up a wholly separate question: one reason industry has moved from parallel to very-high-speed serial is that you don't have to worry about timing and synchronicity, which are primarily due to impurities in copper. Is this an issue with optical? Coz the engineering is generally easier to run ten existing lines in parallel than to make one line ten times faster, if you don't have to worry about synchronizing them.
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When not qualified the term "speed of light", to the majority of the population (except maybe a few who think they are clever for pointing out the lack of said qualification), means the speed of light in a vacuum. When one is referring to the speed of light through some other medium it is usually stated as such.
Of course, if you REALLY want to be pedantic, the speed of light in a vacuum is measured, and the meter is defined as being the distance light travels in 1/299792458th of a second.
While this is Slashdot, we still encourage pedantic comments to be correct. :)
Your definition of the metre is correct, but you may notice that it fixes the speed of light at precisely 299792458 m/s, with no room for measurement. What you actually do in modern science is measure a second with a very precise clock, and calibrate your meter bar appropriately. Any errors you make are in the length of the metre, not the speed of light.
It didn't always used to be this way; for about eighty years the meter was defined in terms of atomic transition lines, so that the speed of light was the measured value. In 1983, however, timekeeping was accurate enough that the definition of the metre changed over so that the metre was a derived quantity.
I was merely pointing out that the knee-jerk slashdot "post early, post often" karma whoring competitions lead to a whole lot of dumbass assertions without any firm understanding of the actual facts of the discussion.
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But thats what slashdot is. Its a discussion forum. It wasn't a stupid question, as you can see it was asked in other places in this subject.Its about the exchange of ideas and is what makes slashdot a *good* place. Its like instant wikipedia that has people pooling their collective areas of expertise together. Just reading a summary, I can usually guess the topics that are going to be raised and discussed because people feel free to express their knee jerk reactions. It makes the discussion richer in the end. It helps me get a sence of what other people are thinking and why they think that way. I don't want people to self sensor themselves, (thats what the mods are for (no, seriously
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
Actually, the speed of light in a vacuum is not constant at all, according to several current theories. Professor R.T. Cahill's process physics theory(i mention this one, cause i've had some lectures on it, but there are others) states that the speed of light is actually inconstant, and depends on the flow of space around it. I don't claim to understand it, being a humble chemist, but it's interesting stuff http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0203015 for a cahill paper
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