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Wii Outselling PS3 in Japan
saintory writes "Apparently the Japanese console consumers are sinking their teeth into the modest Wii and are not as interested in the power-packed PS3. In fact, the Wii is outselling Sony's new console by a factor of almost 2:1. The number of PS3s sold into the Japanese market (466,716) falls well short of the million Sony had planned for the end of 2006. 989,118 Wii consoles have been sold in Japan in the same time span. From the article: 'Both Sony and Nintendo are projecting selling 6 million consoles by the end of March. Sony expects to start shipping the PS3 to Europe sometime that month as well. Straggling far behind Sony and Nintendo in the Enterbrain survey was Microsoft's Xbox 360, which had sold 290,467 since its Japan debut in December 2005. Selling machines in large numbers is crucial in the gaming business because it encourages software companies to make more games to play on the machines, which in turn boosts console sales.'"
Wrong! The sun doesn't rise or set, it just appears to because of the rotation of the Earth.
By reading this you acknowledge that you have read it.
"According to the report, Sony has yet to officially comment on the figures released by Enterbrain, noting only that there may be a discrepancy between the number of units sold and the number of PlayStation 3 consoles that were shipped within Japan."
Yes Sony, you can't compare "sold" with "shipped" - even though that's what you do every time you try to show the DS isn't beating the PSP globally.
The electronics consumer base in Japan has historically tended towards choosing revolutionary products in lieu of evolutionary alternatives. It's a very welcoming market for novel products.
It is certainly no longer a supply issue as PS3s are sitting on shelves all over Japan.
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Net income means jack shit. I don't care if you bring in 2 billion a year if your costs are 4 billion. If my costs are 50,000, and I bring in 75,000, guess what: I have a higher profit margin, which means I have MADE more money than you.
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Definitions of net income on the Web:
* Gross income less expenses, including taxes and insurance, but before depreciation, additions to reserves or distribution of earnings.
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* Income (profit) shown after all operating and non-operating income and expense, reserves, income taxes, minority interest and extraordinary items but before preferred and ordinary dividends.
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* Sum remaining after all expenses have been met or deducted: net profit or net loss, or simply "profit."
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Get the picture? Profit is net income. You meant "gross income means jack shit".
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"Net income means jack shit. I don't care if you bring in 2 billion a year if your costs are 4 billion. If my costs are 50,000, and I bring in 75,000, guess what: I have a higher profit margin, which means I have MADE more money than you."
In this case the net income of company A is -$2billion while the net income of company B is $25,000. Net income is very important. In fact, net income is probably more important than profit margin in this case. I think you need to s/Net/Gross/ for your statement to make sense.
Anecdotally, I was at Best Buy yesterday and they were still out of Wii (got a shipment that day but sold out very quickly) but had 12 PS3. I can't claim anything definitive from that anecdotal evidence,
Well, in general, you can never claim anything definitive from any anecdotal evidence. However, I can point out that it took over 5 months for the Xbox 360 to be generally available in retail stores. The PS3 has been out for less than 2 months, and it's reached that status. Does anyone know how many PS3s and Xbox 360s were manufactured in the first two months? My guess is that the numbers are pretty much the same, which means that the Xbox 360 was much more popular during its first two months than the PS3 was.
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The main problem initially, was that the Xbox gained a reputation for being a haven for mostly shooters and sports games (which honestly, isn't far from the truth). What few RPGs that were on the system came from Western developers (Knights of the Old Republic, Fable, Jade Empire, Morrowind, etc.). Unfortunately for MS, Japanese gamers love their "Japanese-style" RPGs (a la Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, etc.) and there were virtually none on the system. So it's pretty obvious why the Xbox brand gets little love in Japan.
... then you might consider if other reasons are at play (nationalist tendencies, etc.).
That's changed a bit with the 360, thanks to MS attracting some big names. Mistwalker Studios, headed by the former Square honcho (and creator of Final Fantasy), has been developing some big exclusive RPGs for the 360. Blue Dragon just came out last month, and Lost Oddysey is on the way. (As a J-RPG fan myself, I keep track of these things)
While Blue Dragon sold a decent number of 360s, it's definately not enough. One game will not suddenly turn the console around, especially one that's brand new IP and from a new studio. Unfortunately for MS, it becomes somewhat of a chicken and egg problem. They'll need more developers to make "Japan-friendly" games, in order to attract more Japanese gamers. However, those developers aren't going to make games on a platform with a low user-base.
To an optimist, things are looking better. There are several more high-profile games coming in 2007 for the 360, including titles from Square-Enix, and another RPG from Mistwalker. Virtual Fighter 5, which is apparently a huge success in Japan, was recently announced to be coming to the 360 as well.
Personally, I see 2007 as a "do or die" year for the 360 in Japan. If even after all the developer-love, Japanese gamers still don't take to the console
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I think you're thinking of Blue Dragon, made by Akira Toriyama, creator of Dragon Quest and Dragon Ball. He's had very little to do with Final Fantasy.
Oh, come one, the grandparent may be offtopic, but (s)he was right. When you give a ratio like that one, the denominator is usually 1 or a natural number, and the other one represents a proportion of that. If they tell you the ratio is nearly 2:1, what they mean is that the big number is nearly twice as the first number. Period. And it's wrong. It's a silly thing, it's a detail, but it's wrong. The correct ratio is 2.119314529606870131:1, so if you round that to 2:1, you have to say the real ratio is _over_ 2:1.
Besides, it's also a mistake to use a mathematical element incorrectly. They could say "about twice" or something informal. However, they chose to give a ratio, a mathematical expression, and they missed.
Ok, so you can buy a $600 PS3 that runs linux at the level of an 800 Mhz Pentium 3 ? Ok, I wouldn't do it but some people might.
Are you familiar with the Free flash games for the Wii ?
PS3's are not selling out any more.
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Evidence:
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/nikkei/nikkei-on-big
http://www.unscripted360.com/2006/12/28/playstati
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/plenty-o-ps3s-bu
http://www.techimo.com/forum/t180097.html
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6162141.html
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/06/ps3-available-o
Anecdotal evidence, from hundreds of people all over the country, all exhibiting one scenario and never the opposite, is evidence of a trend.
The annoying thing about all these discussions is that so few people recognize the role of price. We have no freakin' clue what the demand curve for these things looks like. When people say one has higher demand than the other, what they really mean is that one is closer to or lower than its clearing price than the other.
circuitcity.com has 60gig PS3s available online right now.. go order one. Check store availability while you're there and find out for yourself.
Clearly you were not aware that the XBox 360 add-on (which can be connected to a normal PC) is like $200 and NetFlix rents HD DVDs.
And it's not just the resolution of the media, but the quality of the picture itself. HD formats have much more bandwidth AND better compression technologies to reduce artifacting. I regularly notice compression artifacting on my 100" 720p home theater setup. I expect that will be mitigated with the new formats and better digital mastering by the studios.
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The fact is, neither HD format, or existing HD televisions can display the majority of the information contained on a theoretical pristine 35mm film print even from pre-WW2(and stock/grain quality has advanced a lot since then). So, if you really want quality, pick up a projector and some reels. The resolution blows everything else out of the water atm, and that's the only advantage it really has, and I mean money is no object when it comes to picture quality, right?
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Try getting the facts:
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35mm RESOLUTION
Measurement Lines
Answer Print MTF 1400
Release Print MTF 1000
Theater Highest Assessment 875
Theater Average Assessment 750
Basicly, 1080p is higher than anything you'll see in the theater (or at home) using analog projection. Film directly transferred to digital may provide a little more resolution than digital recordings, but not much. Film is overrated.
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I mean 4MB texture space = WTF
haha. the Wii only has 3MB of dedicated texture memory.
1920x1080=2073600
1600x1200=1920000
How, exactly, does 1600x1200 "beat the crap out of 1080 anyday", shithead?
I knew Windows users were fucking idiots, but couldn't you use Excel to help you do the fucking maths?
As you can see, it's a lot closer than this article would lead you to believe. The Wii sold in huge numbers its first 2 weeks, and it's now dropped off. The PS3 has held steady. They're almost neck and neck at this point.
... They're not nearly neck in neck
Those are actual sales, not "surveys".
These are actual sales numbers in Japan too
Wii ( 158,750 ) vs. PS3 ( 68,500 ) Japanese Chart for Week Ending 07th January 2007
Wii ( 135,250 ) vs. PS3 ( 61,250 ) Japanese Chart for Week Ending 31st December 2006
Wii ( 286,500 ) vs. PS3 ( 76,500 ) Japanese Chart for Week Ending 24th December 2006
Wii ( 100,500 ) vs. PS3 ( 72,500 ) Japanese Chart for Week Ending 17th December 2006
Wii ( 103,500 ) vs. PS3 ( 49,000 ) Japanese Chart for Week Ending 10th December 2006
Wii ( 368,500 ) vs. PS3 ( 31,500 ) Japanese Chart for Week Ending 03rd December 2006
PS3 ( 35,750 ) Japanese Chart for Week Ending 26th November 2006
PS3 ( 43,500 ) Japanese Chart for Week Ending 19th November 2006
PS3 ( 86,750 ) Japanese Chart for Week Ending 12th November 2006
Total: Wii ( 1,153,000 ) vs. PS3 ( 525,250 )
Wii Hardware vs PS3 Hardware
Wii Software vs PS3 Software
Now if you believe this and this the Wii is selling every unit it ships while there are PS3 units on the shelf which means that the Wii could sell more if Nintendo could build more units.
It may not be the case for long but currently the Wii is owning the PS3 in Japan.