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IBM Breaks Patent Record, Wants Reform

An anonymous reader writes "IBM set the record for most patents granted in a year for 2006. At the same time, IBM points out that small companies earn more patents per capita than larger enterprises and pushes for reform to address shortcomings in the process of patenting business methods: 'The prevalence of patent applications that are of low quality or poorly written have led to backlogs of historic proportions, and the granting of patents protecting ideas that are not new, are overly broad, or obvious.' And the company has been committing itself to a new patent policy: 'Key tenets of the policy are that patent quality is the responsibility of the applicant; that patent applications should be open to public examination and that patent ownership should be transparent; and that business methods without technical content should not be patentable.'"

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  1. Ability to revoke patents? by PurifyYourMind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about changes to make it easier or even possible to revoke bad patents?

    1. Re:Ability to revoke patents? by Dufftron+9000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It is possible to revoke patents. It happens regularly, along with re-examinations prompted by either patent holder or a third party.
      http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/document s/1300_1308_01.htm#sect1308.01

      The whole system is fairly transparent and the new proposed peer review system would be a great opportunity for you to provide all this prior art that you claim exsists so the the examiners can have access to it. They get a limited amount of time to try to find something and if they can't find anything there are limits as to the legal definition of obviousness that can be applied to reject an application.

  2. IBM is smart. by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They see the coming collapse of the entire patent system and would rather have some capability of holding monopolies than lose any chance of it.

    1. Re:IBM is smart. by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      P and GP are correct. But the pain will not be shared equally. Those with more experienced players ( ie: patent lawyers ) will do proportionately better as the system gets worse. So none of the big players wants to see it go over a cliff.

    2. Re:IBM is smart. by s20451 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They see the coming collapse of the entire patent system and would rather have some capability of holding monopolies than lose any chance of it.

      Should the patent system collapse? Would that really be a good thing?

      Patents work like land title.

      Would it be possible to build a house without title? Sure, the same way it's possible to build a tech business without patents.

      Would there be benefits to abolishing title? Sure, you couldn't "hold" land you didn't use, as someone would build on it and you would be out of luck. Much like you wouldn't be able to "hold" an idea and get license fees as a patent troll.

      Will I be first in line at the county office to tear up my title deed and usher in this utopian future? OF COURSE NOT! Why? Because there's a serious risk that someone would bulldozer my house while I'm on vacation and build something else. The title system takes the risk out of land development, much like the patent system takes the risk out of technological development.

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    3. Re:IBM is smart. by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nah. It will just be replaced by something worse. Do you think shrink wrap licenses are bad now? Imagine a world in which you have to sign a license to use every form of commercial technology you use. Want to buy a tube of toothpaste? It will come with a shrinkwrap license that states that you have to agree not to reverse engineer, duplicate, analyze or even try to produce your own toothpaste.

      Patents exist because they are an improvement on a system where everything is held as a trade secret. Thow them out and you will create a nightmare.

    4. Re:IBM is smart. by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's the "intellectual property" meme again. Virtual property is unlike real property. If I steal someone's apple, that's a resource he will have to do without. If I copy someone's design, he still has it and can still utilize it. It's thought that treating "intellectual property" as if it were real property, outlawing theft, providing registration, etc. is a good thing, but it's still debateable.

    5. Re:IBM is smart. by Shados · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, because companies will all rush one by one to spend billions in R&D just to have a 5 people software firm take the idea and make a functional product out of it for pennies.

      Its like biotech patents. Yeah they have bad sides, but between all the billions spent, the risk taken, the years spent on R&D before you get a product, on top of the -extremely high- risk of getting sued to oblivion if you make the slighest mistake, if Walmart could just wait for you to spend the billions, only to sell the product for 99 cents a bottle, would you be willing to go for it?

      Patents are a necessity. The system is flawed, but not the idea behind it.

    6. Re:IBM is smart. by arevos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Patents work like land title. Your analogy is tenuous. Land titles last indefinitely; patents last only a limited period. Land is a limited physical resource; a patented idea is information that can be used an unlimited number of times. Whilst there are similarities between the concepts, the differences are far more numerous.

      Would it be possible to build a house without title? Sure, the same way it's possible to build a tech business without patents. Presumably, a software developer counts as a "tech business", in which case it's worth noting that there are many tech businesses in the EU and elsewhere that are not protected by patents.

      The title system takes the risk out of land development, much like the patent system takes the risk out of technological development. Does software count as "technological development", or are you limiting your argument to hardware? If you do count software as a technological development, could you provide some evidence that US software companies are, (a) investing proportionally more on average in software development than software companies in the EU, and (b) that this is the direct result of software patents.
  3. Too bad - I already patented patent reform by TheWoozle · · Score: 2, Funny

    Poor IBM.

    I have an idea though: everyone will drop all their "bad" patents at the same time. On the count of 3. Ready? 1...2...

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  4. Patent system broken by HappySqurriel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From my very limited understanding of the situation, it seems like there is serious problem with the patent system because small companies patent everything to protect themselves from larger companies, larger companies patent everything to protect themselves from patent trolls, and patent trolls use the massive overworked system to get patents filed which will never be found by small or large coporations in order to sue for profit.

  5. How about? by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about only allowing people to patent inventions that have cost money (resources) to bring into the world (i.e. prototypes, experiments, ect), and not inventions that anyone can "discover" simply by sitting down and thinking hard. (algorithems, formulas, ect)?

    1. Re:How about? by mark-t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree with you in principle, but I think it's overly specific, and could be used to squish out the little guy (think: home inventor) from being able to come up with a patentable invention, since he may possibly use materials that are on-hand, and not have any real expenses.

  6. Patents are both good and bad by sygin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The patent system needs to be updated to reflect the world we live in now, not the world hundreds of years ago. There are many examples of patents holding back progress.

    Retina scanning is a typical example of this. One group/person holds most of the patents on this tech, how many times have you had your retina scanned? There is an only a few obvious methods to get the job done and the patent holder controls all of them. I guarantee that when those patents expire, we will have mainstream retina scanners everywhere.

    For a start:
    1. tech patents should have a shorter lifespan.
    2. Getting a software patent should be damn nigh impossible.

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    1. Re:Patents are both good and bad by jrumney · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Retina scanners are not being held back by patents, they're being held back by the public's perception of retina scanning as being too invasive. I don't expect that will change when the patents expire.

  7. It's easy when you're on top by mandelbr0t · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sure, now that IBM has all the software patents they could ever need, they show others how to do the same thing. Of course, what this means is that IBM is pandering to an ever larger field of patentable technology through the normal process of cross-licensing (you license your patentable idea to me, and I won't charge you for X, which we already have a patent for).

    I'm glad they're being reasonable about the advice they're giving, especially about "not patenting a business process with no technical content", but they're already so far ahead that they can afford to be reasonable. I don't see patent reform on the horizon as a result; IBM has too much invested in the current system to take a really progressive stance on "Intellectual Property" ownership.

    mandelbr0t

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    1. Re:It's easy when you're on top by vadim_t · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or perhaps IBM is doing it out of need, not because they consider it the ideal situation.

      For example, you can at the same time spend a lot on home security and lobby the government to solve the crime problem. Security solves the problem now, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't prefer not to need it at all.

      So perhaps they patent so much because in the current situation it's what makes the most sense, but would prefer not to have to.

  8. Then fewer people would apply! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 3, Insightful
    If you think that the patent system is there for the interests of the inventors then you are wrong. It is they way it is for the interests of the people in the patent industry. The patent machine is a nice little money maker for Uncle Sam and the patent lawyers. If you spoil the players' fun then they won't want patents. Much better to make it really hard to revoke a patent. That needs lots of lawyer hours and money.

    It's the same for the tax system. That could be really simple, but no it's really complex so you need tax accountants/experts. It is a system set up to maximise benefit to the practitioners.

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  9. small companies by micktaggart · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Although small companies might be awarded the most patents per employee, I doubt they can actually defend their patents in court—they'll get their ass kicked immediately by larger corporations.

  10. The real reason for the backlog by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Informative

    More and more people realize that patent clercs don't have the foggiest clue when it comes to the IT biz and start filing for ridiculous patents. Simply because it's been proven time and again that this is your way to big money for essentially no research. Just manage to get one of those trivial patents granted and you're set for life.

    Is there really anyone wondering why there's a backlog from here to Albuquerque? Hell, it's more profitable than frivulous lawsuits for spilled coffee or being a general moron but there was no warning label for it.

    If you want to solve this insane situation, reform the patent system. Now.

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  11. You misunderstand by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Insightful
    From the people actually driving the patent system (ie. US govt and the patent lawyers) there is nothing broken with this. Lots of applications (dumb or good, who cares) == lots of profits. Lots of litigation because of patent systems (dumb or good, who cares) == lots of profits.

    Any system will work the way that its owners intend. While the patent system is owned by the patent lawyers etc, you won't see any changes.

    If the patent holders (inventors) controlled the patent system then you'd see things work differently. There would be a feedback cycle that improved the quality of the patents. Right now, the patent system is a nice money spinner for Uncle Sam and there is no external quality check. Imagine though if you could sue for bad patents. eg. USPTO issues you with a patent so you start a business based on it, but the patent gets revoked so you had to close your busiuness. Imagine if you could chase USPTO for your losses. Likewise, imagine if USPTO had to cover your expenses when you have to take a stupid troll patent to court and they were wrong to give out the patent.

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  12. Patent Quality Index by schwaang · · Score: 3, Funny
    The final initiative is the Patent Quality Index which seeks to define a quantitative metric for the quality of patents.

    The article failed to mention that the metric will be a web-based distributed evaluation system, in which nerds in basements will view each patent and score them either "hot or not".
    1. Re:Patent Quality Index by shawnap · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mod patent up!

  13. Re:Oh, I get it by Bryansix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This has nothing to do with it. IBM actually patents technology they research and develop. They are not patent trolls. IBM spends more money on R&D then almost any other company out there. They earned those patents. They just want to reduce the amount of patents awarded to people when they already have a patent on that technology. Then IBM has to waste money in court showing that the later patent should have never been awarded. It just makes sense both from a business and an ethical perspective. The Patent office needs to wake up and start scrutinizing applications more.

  14. We can't do that! by WebCowboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    everyone will drop all their "bad" patents at the same time.

    If everyone did that, the incredible mass of patent paperwork impacting the earth's surface simultaneously would produce a force so great as to shift the orbit of the planet! If you think CO2 causes climate change, wait'll you see what THAT would do!

  15. IBM tries to pursue only quality patents by swillden · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As an IBM employee who has been through the internal patent vetting process, I can tell you that IBM isn't just spouting off about the importance of patent quality, IBM actually does try to ensure that it only seeks patent protection for really worthy ideas.

    A colleague and I (mostly him) came up with an interesting approach for quickly and accurately finding the subject's face in an photo taken for an ID card. The idea is that rather than having to carefully adjust the camera before taking the photo, or having to carefully crop the photo afterwards, it's much more efficient to have a fixed camera that covers a sufficiently large field of view that all subjects, no matter what size, will be in the image and then have software automatically identify their head within the image and crop and rescale to get an image of just the head, with the right size and aspect ratio.

    I'll admit that it's not any sort of blinding insight, but there were some very clever bits in the way my colleague made it work and made it fast. Not just algorithmic details, either, but some fundamentally good ideas. Further, after we'd implemented it we discovered that there doesn't seem to be another ID photo solution on the planet that works remotely as well. Most of them don't even try to automatically zoom and crop, and those that do suck at it. To the point the 80% of the time the user has to manually adjust the crop.

    So, since IBM offers bonuses for patents, we figured that it had enough novelty in it to be patentable, particularly given the crap that gets patented. We filled out the paperwork and got ready for the review board to rubberstamp our application, or maybe point out a few legal niceties that had to be corrected.

    They shut us down cold. "Not novel enough". "The usage may have some originality, but the basic ideas are all commonplace". "It's too obvious".

    They told us we could work on it and re-present if we wanted, but they were pretty clear that unless we found some more, better, newer ideas, IBM would not pursue acquisition of a patent on our invention. That impressed me, actually, even though I was disappointed to be missing out on the bonus.

    I can't say that *all* of IBM's patents are high quality. In fact I'd be surprised if a few dogs don't slip through. But IBM really does try ensure that it only patents real, novel, non-obvious inventions. Probably mostly to avoid paying any more employee bonuses than they have to, but the industry would clearly be a better place if more companies held themselves to the same standards.

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  16. IBM is smart-Free property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Agreed. Now if you'll excuse me I'll be in the bedroom hacking my DirectTV box to get free programming. Hey don't give me that look! The paying customers will make certain everything stays afloat.

    1. Re:IBM is smart-Free property by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The DirectTV people probably could come up with a way to only transmit programming to people who've paid for it, say via careful distribution of encryption keys or hardware, but they choose not to because it's easier to make a weak technological solution and then buy some laws that prevent reverse-engineering. This is a serious problem, and it's the beginning of a whole lot of bad laws we're burdened with now.

      I have no problem if companies decide to try and encrypt their content. If they want to tie it down, lock it to hardware, whatever; go for it. But where I draw the line is when they started getting involved in the legislative process and making it illegal for people to break their chains, even when it was clear that people had the right to use the content in ways that the 'chains' prohibited.

      If DirectTV is broadcasting its signal onto my property, then I ought to be able to set up a 1m dish and an LNB amplifier and a signal processor, and do whatever I want with the incoming electrons, as long as I don't take the results outside of my property (e.g. rebroadcasting them in a way that causes them to leave my property). That it's illegal for me to set up a dish and a few analog parts, and perform some mathematical transformations to the resulting signal, is absolutely ridiculous, and represents the height of governmental pandering to corporate interests.

      Corporations should be free to attempt to restrict and encrypt their content as much as they want. But individuals should be allowed do whatever they want with the signals that they're given, particularly when they're being broadcast over the EM spectrum, which is inherently a public resource.

      The anti-circumvention laws about satellite TV broadcasts in the 1980s are where we really started to go wrong with technology laws in this country, and it's a very direct path from there through to the DMCA. It's nothing but laziness: as long as its easier to get a law passed than to build robust systems, companies will always go to Congress with bags of cash in hand.

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  17. The cynic in me by gelfling · · Score: 3, Informative

    Thinks that the IBM formal Patent program has become too cumbersome. Patent authors pass through a series of committees that either reject them or pass them on before they are ever considered for filing. If they were awarded 3700 patents then probably 20x that amount of submissions were made at the beginning of the process. Employees are awarded for patent submssions not patents. So this new rule will thin the submissions down greatly and will force most patent submissions to come out of the research areas. With fewer higher quality patents they'll have to do far less work to process them and will award far less in bounty money.

  18. How about "automatic revocation"? by WebCowboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't think it should be TOO easy to revoke patents, however as it stands it is much too difficult to do so. More importantly, I think that the patent systems in pretty much all juristictions are missing an important thing: RESPONSIBILITIES.

    Patents essentially grant monopoly rights to inventors for their creations for an extended time (say 20 years). This is to encourage innovation by giving the inventor time to fully develop and market inventions before competitors can rip them off. This is all based on the assertion that there is always a bigger, richer, "more evil" entity out there who could develop and market an inventor's creation more quickly than a resource-strapped inventor could. Without the originally intended patent protection many inventions would've been commandeered by big, established corporations and the end result would be that innovation would die away and the only entities capable of innovation would be those with vast resources (very large corporations and governments)--and such entities by nature are anti-innovation.

    The problem is that patent enforcement is only one-way--it grants protection TO the inventor but asks little to nothing FROM the inventor in terms of responsibility. I think patent reform should include a set of RESPONSIBILITIES as well as rights, and if the patent holder does not live up to those responsibilities the patent should be automatically revoked. The responsibilities I see would be something like the following:

    * The inventor must plan to develop and market this invention (make it available to the public in some way) within 'x' years or the patent will expire. The 'x' year period would be much shorter than the 20 year lifespan of a typical patent, and would depend on the "class" of a patent--complex physical devices would be granted several years where simple physical objects and non-physical inventions (technical processes, etc) would be allowed only one year from the granting of a patent. The inventor may develop and market the invention himself or license it to another entity, but the patent-holder CANNOT sit on a patent without actively trying to make the invention happen. If the patent expires after this time frame it becomes public domain.

    * The inventor must consistently enforce the patent--if someone willfully violates the patent and it is evident that the patent holder knows of this violation they must pursue royalties or other legal action against the violator within a reasonable time frame. There should be protection from "submarine patents" wielded by patent trolls, such as those used against RIM for example. If RIM made improper use of patented technology there was AMPLE time for the patent holder to take issue with it. It seems that the patent holders in this case deliberately waited until RIM had sufficiently deep and full pockets before reaching into those pockets for a settlement. The patent holder should have a cooperative relationship with developers and manufacturers, not a parasitic one. In such a situation the accused patent violator should have the means to have a patent revoked if it is wilfully abused this way.

    * If an invention DOES get developed and is marketed publicly, within the specified time frame and is properly enforced by patent holders, then the patent can be held for the full time frame. However, it must be CONTINUOUSLY marketed/licensed during that time. If the patented item ceases to be publicly marketed/used, and/or there are no current licensees to the technology, then the patent should expire early. Although the intention of the patent system was to encourage innovation, they have become a means of SLOWING innovation because so many good ideas sit in patent files gathering dust on shelves. It is perverse that corporations out there apply for patents (or purchase the patent rights) so they can DELIBERATELY shelve them, and sue out of existence any competition that tries to use the ideas covered in them.

    Patent law is just another case of what happens when rights are not balanced with responsibilities.

    1. Re:How about "automatic revocation"? by gripen40k · · Score: 2, Interesting
      In reply with your comment, I just want to list a few notable problems with your ideas.

      * The inventor must plan to develop and market this invention... But what happens if his/her funding fell through? With no money to market and sell the idea, all of his/her hard work and dedication would be for nothing! But of course finding investors is also a form of marketing, so this would cause the patent 'lease' to be extended. In that case, a company could easily shelve it and 'look' for investors (ie say they are looking), there-by keeping their patent lease.

      * The inventor must consistently enforce the patent... Yes but you know how many companies are out there in any one particular field? This should really just apply to the most obvious of devices and companies (ie. Apple/Cisco and the iPhone, which clearly Apple screwed up). RIM was pretty much unheard of until they really were big, and so it's part of plausible deniability, RIM could have gone unnoticed from those patent trolls for some time.

      Overall I think these ideas are on the right track, but it will be very, very hard to stop people from abusing any patent system, regardless of what that system entails.
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    2. Re:How about "automatic revocation"? by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes but if the timeframe is too short the companies will just wait until it expires and then use it without having to pay royalties.

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  19. Having the public review applications by YGingras · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why would the public approve a single patent? Patents are never in the interest of the general public. Patents take away something from the public and give it to the inventor in hope that the inventor will publish more of his ideas.

  20. Ridiculous hyperbole, you lose. by sydb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What software invention cost "billions" in R&D. I don't believe there are any.

    Forbes says that:

    In 2002, IBM spent $4.75 billion on research and development. That's more, in dollars, than Microsoft, Intel, Hewlett-Packard and Sun Microsystems.

    Infoworld says:

    IBM filed more patent applications than any other company with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) in 2005 to once again lead the annual ranking put out by the U.S. Department of Commerce office.

    The company filed for 2,941 patents in 2005, which is down from 3,248 applications in 2004 but still well ahead of second-ranked Canon, which filed 1,828 applications,


    Assuming the figures don't change too much annually, the average cost of an IBM patent is about $1.5M per patent. And IBM is a hardware company. I'm confident if you looked at software patents alone, that figure would be a lot less.

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    1. Re:Ridiculous hyperbole, you lose. by EarthlingN · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just a thought, for fun.

      Maybe patents should be given a value or life span according to the amount of work that went into it.

      Say, for instance, someone built a small shell script* that could parse all known patents and generate all possible combinations of inventions or methods that haven't already been thought up. Then, let's say there is a useful-enough-to-patent** function that could weed out the chaffe and submit the rest as full blown patent pending requests.

      I wouldn't really want to give that person a very long monopoly on every new invention in the whole world.*** It seems that once the time/money he'd invested in his invention machine was paid off (plus some profit) it would do more harm than good to let him charge everyone a tax for thinking.

      (* or Lisp or Prolog)
      (** do you think this is how IBM comes up with so many ideas? ;)
      (*** unless I am that person >8^)

  21. Re:Oh, I get it by Dufftron+9000 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The patent office does not sell patents. I know it is posh to dump on the PTO but you obviously have no idea how it works. The PTO is held by the laws and regulations written by congress and does not have the latitude to adjust the amount of time given to examine any particular case. If you want more time spent on a case, ask congress to give them more time. The USPTO would love to have time to exhaustively search each and every application, but with fewer than 8,000 employees and more than 500,000 new applications a year as well as just under 1 million already in the system that is not exactly fair to applicants that have been waiting up to three years for someone to take a first look at their application. Even with the current problems and limitations that they operate under, they still have a less than 5% rate of allowing "bad" claims to go to the pre-allowance stage where they are caught and re-examined.

    http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/dapp/opla/pre sentation/chicagoslidestext.html

  22. What a travesty. by hlomas · · Score: 2, Funny

    I blame theoretical physics for sapping the patent office of its brightest.

  23. The Open Source Community can't trust IBM. by btarval · · Score: 5, Informative
    Oh, with all due respect, I think you are seriously understating the problem. IBM explicitly demonstrated this only too well last month.

    What isn't getting reported (at least not on Slashdot, for whatever reason) is that IBM's current actions are schizophrenic, if you view them in the best possible light. In the worst possible light, these actions can be viewed as an attempt to by-pass the Patent Office. To make absolutely certain that the big guys retain control over the process, and aren't pestered again by the little guys.

    A superb example of this is the fact that IBM is ACTIVELY fully supportive of Software Patents, and has even used what appear to be rather bogus ones (against a company which is using Linux, no less), in order to stifle the competition.

    I'm speaking about IBM's lawsuit last month against Platform Solutions. Here's one quote and link from a press article:

    "IBM's decision to sue Platform Solutions is another indication that the company is becoming more aggressive about defending its intellectual property in an effort to extract more revenue from its extensive patent trove."

    There are other links if you do a Google search; but it's pretty clear that IBM wants to keep this as quiet as possible.

    The point remains though, that IBM is being extremely agressive with Software Patents, against what appear to be Linux-based products. And anything IBM says about "improving the quality" is utter BS. Their priority is to improve the bottom line.

    Sorry if that pops some people's bubbles about IBM. There is no question that IBM has been helpful to the Open Source community. But it's quite clear that this only goes so far. And as long as they are actively working as a Patent Troll to stifle competition, IBM cannot be trusted.

    Let us hope that it doesn't go so far as submarine patents. But honestly, I've never seen a big company play nice out of the goodness of their heart yet, when it comes to their competition.

    IBM might have struck me as leaning that way before last month. But not any more.

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  24. Re:File patents or lose your job by hrvatska · · Score: 2, Informative

    Companies like IBM normally require employees to file patents to keep their jobs, no matter how trivial they are.

    I know many, many long term IBM employees in technical positions who have never filed a patent. Filing patents at IBM is viewed favorably, but it certainly isn't a requirement for holding onto a job.

  25. Of course they want reform by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These patents are more valuable than money, and with the treasure trove they have, they can't afford to have such a broken system that people might finally see the light and demand complete abolishment. It's not about reform. It's about protecting an investment.

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    1. Re:Of course they want reform by cbacba · · Score: 2, Informative

      Patents aren't worth much unless you've got the resources to defend them in court. What they do is give one a legitimate reason to go to court. This concept predates the more modern version of court lawsuits that permit ostensibly poor people to sue ostensibly rich people/companies just because the people/company was in the general area when a wrong was done and well heck - the wrong doer didn't have enough resources to pay the lawyer and make the victim rich.

      Patent are necessary to have any standing in court when another company attempts to steal the efforts and ideas of that which you worked and invested in to offer the world. Patents exist ultimately for the benefit of society so that those ideas developed are not kept locked in a vault and protected as trade secrets to be potentially lost for a thousand years like some inventions have been. Note this is about real innovation not variations on a theme of the one minute manager book.

      The patent is a temporary monopoly granted its owner by the government (instigator of all true monopolies) to reward the owner for sharing the information with the world rather than keeping it secret. The US patent office has issued only a few million since the founding of the nation.

      At present, it needs reform to cater more to the lone inventor than the foreign megacorporation. As I stated, without a patent, there is no protection for an invention in court and there is no way that investors will risk money in startup ventures without the prospect of protection. Just imagine if there were no trade mark protection what you might wind up with at the local store while trying to by an Apple i-pod.

      Also, there is no guarantee that a patent applies to something that works or is of value. They're pretty good at kicking out the outrageous stuff like perpetual motion machines and 200mpg carburators for Mack 18 wheelers but beyond that it's rather difficult to analyze. Hey, that $50,000 nonreusable mouse trap might work really well and even avoiding existing product's disadvantages like disposal of the mouse or smells because it instantly incinerates the critter in a phaser blast, but, it's never going to make it in the marketplace.