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Apple is DRM's Biggest Backer

parvenu74 writes "Arstechnica is running an article pointing out that while some pockets of the entertainment industry are experimenting with DRM-free distribution, Apple Inc, which announced that they have now sold over 2,000,000,000 songs on iTunes, is now the strongest pro-DRM force in digial media. From the article: 'DRM is dying. It's a statement being echoed with increasing frequency around the Web over the last few weeks, and is perhaps best articulated in this Billboard article. But there's a powerful force standing in the way of this DRM-free panacea, and it might not be the one you expect: Apple, Inc.'"

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  1. yes and No by peragrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes Apple is DRM's biggest backer, then again Apple's DRM is the only DRm that is constant among all songs. Windows DRM can change per player, musician, studio, or even CD. If you have to have DRM then Apple's is certainly better than anyone else's.

    Now the only thing better would be no DRM at all. I can't see that happening as long the RIAA exists. How else could they afford to pay to make more Britney's, and Spice Girls?

    Till then I will boycott music from non independent sources.

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    1. Re:yes and No by HappySqurriel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At the same time Apple hasn't (so far) hasn't prevented their customers from putting music that has no DRM onto their iPod so I would question whether they really are DRM's biggest backer; they could have easily said that you could only put licenced music on the iPod that was purchased through iTunes in order to protect the 'rights' of artists, but they didn't.

  2. How about Apple TV by rvw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I read that Apple TV works without DRM, well the DVI signal to the TV/monitor is not encrypted. How does that fit into this picture?

  3. not likely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the article is short-sighted. apple supports DRM because they have to in order to be granted the right to sell media from various studios. apple is a hardware company, and their hardware works just fine with non-DRM'ed media. the itunes music store embeds DRM because it has to. at no point is apple diametrically opposed to the destruction of DRM; it's not a mutually exclusive relationship in the least. in fact, if media were easier to obtain, a valid argument could be made that apple would benefit- if media were free, people would potentially be more interested in obtaining media hardware [from apple].

  4. But the laziest DRM by shirizaki · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apple's DRM doesn't wonderously restrict files. You can still burn them and rerip them.


    YES! We know there's a small reduction in quality.


    Even though they have DRM, they aren't doing it totally for the RIAA. They have a business model that kind of works: .99 for a song, do almost what you want with it. They mostly have DRM so they can segway that iPod purchase into some iTunes purchases, and they can only offer that type of DRM. That is why the French fought to try and force Apple to disclose their DRM method. Apple is doing it more for a business model rather than legality according to distributing music. So it's going to be a tougher fight for them to either disclose their DRM method or to be totally non-DRM.

    In reality, it's still the record labels that are in the biggest way of DRM and their legal rabbit the RIAA. The recent russian site that closed did send royalty checks to RIAA, but they never cashed them.

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  5. Talk about sensationalism, by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple has an agreement to DRM the music in order to carry it.

    Steve Jobs said:" "None of this technology that you're talking about's gonna work. We have Ph.D.'s here, that know the stuff cold, and we don't believe it's possible to protect digital content."

    It seems to me when DRM goes,Apple isn't going to try and stop it.

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  6. They're successful because the DRM is weak by blueZ3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple may be "pushing" DRM, but according to what I've read, it's mainly because they couldn't get the publishers to agree to a DRM-free model. To get access to the music catalogs, they had to be able to say they had a scheme for preventing iTunes from turning into (the old) Napster. The DRM model that they use is pretty much the weakest model you can have and still cal it DRM--you can burn any song or songs to CD and the protection scheme is weak enough that it's been repeatedly broken by people interested in "unprotecting" the files.

    I know there are a number of purists (and anti-Apple types) who argue that any and all DRM is bad. But in my opinion, Apple's weak DRM scheme hasn't stopped the imaginary DRM-free world these folks are advocating--it has actually helped by prevented something much more onerous from becoming the de facto standard.

    Can you imagine a world where the most successful music download service provides music in Microsoft's WMF and you can't burn a CD or copy the song to more than one PC? My hope is that the success of the weak-DRM'd iTunes store will discourage people from "renting" music or subscribing to some scheme where the DRM is significantly more restrictive.

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  7. Independent music on iTMS by thegameiam · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apple is pretty friendly to independent music sources, as well - CDBaby has a deal where for a small fee they'll perform digital distribution, and I've noticed that iTMS is the overwhelming source of all of the digital purchases of my band's stuff.

    Their payout rates to artists are as good or better than other services, as I discussed elsewhere.

    So while no-DRM would be ideal, Apple's approach isn't unfriendly to indie musicians.

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  8. Side effect of being #1 by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The fact that Apple is the #1 'DRM purveyor' is just a function of the fact that they are the #1 music download service. DRM was a condition absolutely insisted upon by the big record labels. You can argue as to whether or not DRM would have any kind of foothold as it does today were it not for iTMS, and its a valid argument. In the end, this too shall pass; you can't change physics and the old model must pass away eventually. (Kicking and screaming, as it turns out.)

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  9. Re:That's why I don't buy from Apple. by slughead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But since the advent of the iPod and iTunes, I have refused to buy anything from Apple just because of their support of DRM. I don't need my rights "managed", especially by a corporation.

    I'm a mac user and I don't have any DRM'd files on my hard drive except iTMS TV shows. I have 80GB of music, all Mp3. Apple's mp3 encoder works really well, too.

    DRM is only there if you want it there. It's not some dirty little secret like it is with the subscription services.

    Most people are aware by now of the limitations they face with iTMS files, and yet it's the 4th biggest source of music worldwide (first for downloads).

    DVDs can't be ripped with any software you can purchase, does that mean you don't buy or rent them? DRM isn't intrinsically bad, especially when you can just avoid buying DRM products.

  10. Re:That's why I don't buy from Apple. by Nitage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't forget that Apple have made no attempt to disable the 'Burn to CD then reimport' workaround. It seems as if they're paying lip-service to DRM in order to satisfy record companies, whilst making no attempt to implement a secure system.

  11. Re:I hate to point this out... by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple DRM isn't exactly the strongest brand of DRM Goodness(tm).

    It's still bad enough to be onerous. For example, I replaced someone's motherboard and reinstalled their operating system for them. This person had purchased iTunes songs several years ago. She still likes the songs, but hasn't dealt with apple for quite some time. So by now she doesn't know her login, or even what email address she used to log in. The result is that she cannot access her legally purchased iTunes songs.

    She used to have the songs, now she doesn't. Apple has stolen from her in a way that is much more concrete than if she had "stolen" those songs through P2P.

    Be it the little known loop hole of secretly burning off your music and re-ripping it into your favorite codec or the more nefarious path known as fair play.

    It's hardly a useful loophole if it requires a physical CD (at $.25 a pop) and subjects it to a round of lossy transcoding. I can download FLACs from any pirate site and point oggenc at them and get nice quality oggs with all the tags seamlessly applied to the new oggs. Until I can do that with iTunes it's simply not an option.

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