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Mars Probe May Have Spotted Sojourner Rover

Maggie McKee writes "NASA's eagle-eyed Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter may have spotted the tiny, toaster oven-sized Sojourner rover just a few meters away from its companion, the Mars Pathfinder lander. It appears to have crawled there in an attempt to re-establish contact with the lander after the lander had already died. But the pictures aren't clear enough to definitively ID the rover, and it's possible Sojourner simply took off on its own. If it were miraculously still alive after 10 years, it could be 3 kilometers away from Pathfinder — and probably impossible to find, even with MRO."

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  1. I spy by metlin · · Score: 4, Funny

    I spy with my litle eye something that starts with S.

    SOJOURNER? Yay!

  2. Rover by master_kaos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Red Rover, Red Rover, Let Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Come Over

  3. HTML version of Sojourner pic by PeeAitchPee · · Score: 5, Funny

    .

    ;-)

  4. Dad .. Dad ???? by UberHoser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sorry, the image of the little one crawling to it's dad after a crash.. kinda choked me up ....

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    1. Re:Dad .. Dad ???? by chrisb33 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought the same thing... poor little guy, trying to nuzzle under the lander like Simba in the Lion King. Now all we need is for Spirit and Opportunity to come over and sing "Hakuna Matata!"

  5. Batteries not included by jank1887 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Was anyone else reminded of the scene when the one robot finds the other one after the guy hit it with an axe? Poor little robot...

  6. Rovers are signs of intelligent life! by BubbaFett · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is Mars so boring now that we're just sending things there to look at other things we've sent there?

    1. Re:Rovers are signs of intelligent life! by MyHair · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From TA I gather they wanted to see what Sojourner did after losing contact...how did its programming to return to base play out?

      I'm guessing it's also a sanity check of several factors.

      Plus it's nifty cool!

      Lastly, perhaps seeing how various known objects appear on the images will help them look for crash sites like Beagle's. MPL presumably is flying through space somewhere, but if they weren't confident of that they could look for its crash site, too.

      Even more lastly it's probably interesting to see how the weather affects conditions around long-sitting known objects. Do dunes build up? Do they get dusty or does the wind clean them? Etc.

    2. Re:Rovers are signs of intelligent life! by sparky555 · · Score: 2, Informative

      MPL isn't flying through space - it did crash, and they did try to image it. http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/050601_mpl_cl ues.html

    3. Re:Rovers are signs of intelligent life! by CorSci81 · · Score: 2, Informative

      They wouldn't see anything. Hubble can just barely make out Pluto's newly discovered 2nd and 3rd moons, and the Voyagers are a hell of a lot smaller and much much further away.

  7. wow, this is actually kind of sad.... by mdm-adph · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...in a dorky kind of way.

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    1. Re:wow, this is actually kind of sad.... by rcatarella · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Robots hate to be anthropomorphized ;)

  8. Hi Martians! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm a little robot.
    I'm a little robot who is lost.
    I'm a little robot who is lost from Earth.
    If I'm a little robot who is found, please call the interstellar hot line 1-800-LOSTROBOTS.

  9. What about Mars program? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder why don't they try to image probes from Russian Mars probe program? It would be interesting and important to know why did they ultimately failed. Mars 2 and 3 even had small rovers which maybe could be imaged, if they were deployed.

  10. Callous and heartless by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Funny
    So when contact with the lander, which was designed to last one month, was lost after three months, ground controllers were not sure what became of Sojourner.
    What callous monsters these NASA people are! Poor Sojourner was left to wander around with no means of communicating back home, while dying a slow and lonely death. I had to wipe the tears from my eyes as I read that story.
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    1. Re:Callous and heartless by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Poor Sojourner was left to wander around with no means of communicating back home, while dying a slow and lonely death.

      It will meet up with Spirit and together they will party and have children. They are the Adam and Eve of Mars. 6000 years from now billions of robots will read about them in Genesis of the Mars Bible. But the Mars evolutionists will insist Sojourner evolved from toasters and staplers instead of having a Creator (JPL).

  11. Can anyone make out the pic details? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My eyes and monitor are good, but I can't tell what the labels are to. Couldn't anyone draw a line to whatever the item is that they think is the rover? I'm just not seeing it at all. It's like where's Waldo in black and white but with a much, much smaller Waldo.

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    1. Re:Can anyone make out the pic details? by fmackay · · Score: 3, Informative

      This high-res version of the image has pointers to the objects of interest - I still can't figure out which pixel is supposed to be the rover though.

  12. Two probes enter by Cylix · · Score: 2, Funny

    One probe leaves...

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  13. MarsClock for Palm Pilots by HoneyBeeSpace · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you want to geek out and track the lifespan of the various Mars missions, you can do so on your Palm with MarsClock. If you want the desktop version check out Mars24. Both should be updated for Pheonix sometime this year.

  14. HOLY CRAP by everphilski · · Score: 4, Funny

    ;-)

    is that a face I see on Mars?

  15. *Much* better pictures on NASA site by ashitaka · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a collection of much higher resolution pictures on the NASA site to the point you can see the ramps on the lander.

    It is difficult to see whether the sojurner rover is nearby or not. The programming was set to make it do so but I like the thought of an intrepid little robot setting off on it's own.

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    1. Re:*Much* better pictures on NASA site by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 2, Informative

      6.2MiB, 4000x4000 pixels
      http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mro/gallery//press/200701 10a/picture-3.jpg
      Naw, they just aren't checking all their links.
      Is a little further down the page.

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  16. Stop wasting this technology on other planets by Alzheimers · · Score: 4, Funny

    We're spending all this money so we can spot a lost robot millions of miles away, so why can't we point it back at earth and help me find my KEYS!

    GAAAAH!

  17. The ultimate scavenger hunt by nizo · · Score: 2

    After we colonize Mars, the first one to find it gets a 25 million dollar coffee table for their new home!

    1. Re:The ultimate scavenger hunt by pluther · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's actually only a $49.00 coffee table. The rest is Ikea's home delivery charge.

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  18. Viking landers by abigor · · Score: 2

    What most amazes me are the Viking landers. Looking at some of the pictures they took, the quality is just great. And they kept transmitting information for years - I think Viking 2 finally died in 1982 or something, six years after landing. Cult 1970s technology!

    1. Re:Viking landers by abigor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Fully agreed, I have long been a proponent of nuclear power - I can remember talking about this nearly 10 years ago, and not just for powerplants in spacecraft, but also as the real answer to air quality issues, foreign oil dependence, and so forth. To be honest, there is a significant number of enviro types who are pro-nuclear, but they tend to be in the rationalist camp. The emotional camp, always the larger and more vocal of the two, consistently drowns out the rationalists in any debate.

      It was such emotional arguments that cancelled the U.S. Integral Fast Reactor back in the '90s (I think it was), and has retarded the deployment of reactors in general all over the place in favour of coal, etc.

    2. Re:Viking landers by damiangerous · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're confusing dates and events, but essentially yes. Viking 2 failed in 1980 after 3 1/2 years due to battery failure. Viking 1 survived for over six years until 1982. It didn't actually die on its own, we broke it. An update to the battery charging software overwrote the antenna positioning software and contact was lost.

  19. Wondering Mystery by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This would be great if confirmed. The rover was programmed to move toward the lander station if I did not receive any commands for a certain period of time in order to improve its radio signal with the lander. But without a way to communicate with Earth (probably because the lander's batteries died and that rover relied on the lander for Earth contact), JPL had no way to know what the rover was doing during this time and if this emergency procedure was carried out. Now we may have an idea about how the rover did on its own. Perhaps it even built a clubhouse and spa during our absense :-)

  20. How probes are located by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Informative

    MRO has only been on station a few months, since March. Imaging these four American landers were probably higher priorities than older Soviet landers.

    I believe the appearent bias is for technical reasons, such as newer radio tracking technology, and the fact that surface images are used to help find the landing sites. No Soviet probe ever returned a surface image.

    Somebody discovered that if they stretch the vertical scale of a Viking surface image, the distant hills were more easy to see. This allowed them to match them to orbiter photos of the general vacinity.

    The Sojourner landing set found two fairly large hills in the distance that were used to pinpoint their spot.

    The two current rovers also sent back images from about a mile high just before landing for the very purpose of finding them from orbit. (Technically the camera was on the outer appuratus, not the rovers themselves.)

    This is partly in response to the lost Polar Lander, which they are still looking for to gain clues to what went wrong. The fact that Polar Lander didn't send radio signals nor images is why it is still lost. Thus, Polar Lander is in the same boat as the Soviet landers and Beagle.

    It is not nationalism bias, at least not yet.

  21. I Spy BIGGER picture by iamlucky13 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article links to a downsized picture. If you really want in on the fun, download the 6.2 MB full size image from the MRO website.

    The Pathfinder lander itself is labeled MPF. It's about 2/3 of the way across the image (to the right) and perhaps 500 pixels from the top. It appears lighter than the surrounding material, roughly triangular in shape, and has a slight shadow to the right.

    I'm not sure which point they think is the adorable little Sojourner (pic of mockup next to Spirit and Odyssey on earth), but I think it's the two light grey pixels with a shadow about 15-20 pixels north of Pathfinder. That may just be one of the rocks it studied, though.

    The parachute and backshell are also labeled. The round object is the aerodynamic backshell that covered the top of the lander during entry. It is attached to the parachute, which is draped over the ground a few meters northeast.

    The think the heatshield fragments are pretty self-explanatory, although I'm unsure why it's so scattered. It must have broken up, probably tumbling, shortly after being released.

    The distribution of parts around the landscape makes some sense if you know how it landed. Pathfinder entered the Martian atmosphere at about 17,000 mph. It aerobraked using the heatshield down to about 900 mph. After two minutes, the parachute deployed and the heat shield was released. The lander was then lowered on a tether so it would be clear of the backshell. 8 seconds before touchdown, the airbags inflated and retrorockets fired. 2 seconds before touchdown, the tether was cut, with the retrorockets carrying the backshell safely away from the lander, and the Pathfinder bounced down onto its airbags.

    I think the Pathfinder payed for itself just in coolness (come on...airbags! Who thinks this stuff up?). Add science and engineering lessons learned, and this mission is priceless.

  22. Toaster size?? by deggy · · Score: 2, Informative

    The pathfinder rover is 63cm long. How many toasters are 63cm long? Come on Slashdot. If you're going to make a comparison, at least ensure it is apt.

  23. not a spacecraft... by dosle · · Score: 2, Funny

    that's not a sojourner, it's a SCHOONER!

  24. Re:The Onion was way ahead on this one by ray-auch · · Score: 2, Informative

    I guess it's this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjiGH9QNiU0

    Definitely worth finding.