Is A Bad Attitude Damaging The IT Profession?
dtienes writes "Why does IT get a free pass to insult users? Slamming customers isn't acceptable in any other profession; doctors don't call their patients "meatbags" — at least, not publicly. But IT professionals think nothing of wearing their scorn on their sleeves (or at least their chests — just check out ThinkGeek). There's more at stake here than just a few hard feelings. IT may be seriously damaging the credibility of the profession. See the essay I'm An Idiot (And Other Lessons From The IT Department) for a former IT professional turned user's take on insults, attitudes and ethics.
(Full disclosure: The submitter is also the author.)"
some cheese with that whine?
Cry me a fscking river you hypocrite - when you start paying me like a lawyer or a doctor and ask for an appointment before barging into my office because YOU luser broke something, that's when I'll start treating you with the respect you expect from professionals.
Until then, you get a hearty RTFM + STFU, n00b.
Global warming is a cube.
Cue everyone tagging the article 'fuckoff'?
Speaking of bad communications skills (or at least editing mistakes), that first line should read "why so few female schools students apply to study computer science" rather than "do not apply"
Preview, dammit, preview!
But the girls who develop that attitude don't lose it. It sticks with them forever.
You made the conscious choice to develop that attitude. You can make the conscious choice to lose the attitude.
Or is it that you aren't as smart about your own feelings, attitudes and behaviors as you are about computers?
Computers are easy to learn. People are more complex. I often wonder, when I read topics like this and posts like yours, if the issue is that "geeks" are scared to figure out the more complex topic of people because they might fail and stick to computers because figuring out ones and zeros is easier.
Either way, by not making a choice to lose the attitude, you've proved the point of the article.
25 years old and still in college?
You'd think they would have just given up by now.
Fuck you!
"All you have to do is be fragile and grateful. So stay the underdog." Chuck Palahniuk, Choke
When Harvard Business school and equivalent schools such as Darden Business School teach their aspiring asskissers and number jugglers that engineers are morons- You get an understanding of why so many businesses fail by non-engineers, and why IT people are sick of being treated like janitors when they are- in fact- the core value of the business.
Once MBA's grasp the same clue ass grandma when she can't connect to Al Gore's IntarWeb, then perhaps IT will be treated with the respect that it deserves. People that are the most learned are called Doctors. They simply understand more than most and control that information. At least, they used to. Now it's IT's world, and everyone else is in the back seat.
That awareness has not yet sunken into the public. Even though Bill Gates could buy half the Planet, they still don't get it. And honestly, fuck them. If they want customer oriented care 24/7 from IT, then pay them like a MD or JD. Otherwise, go fuck yourself.
Reason being: if girls expect to get A's, they will try less, and therefore learn less.
Teachers often pour more time and energy into teaching boys than girls. This is not for the sake of being mean, but rather for the simple fact that many believe boys have more potential, and are more likely to go on to college and get a real job instead of just "helping around the house" when they graduate high school.
This would explain the friendly, laxed, careless attitude towards teaching girls in high school (ie: girls automatically get A's in a high school physics class) compared to the strict and more overtly sexist attitudes towards teaching women in college, especially in courses that are primarily male-dominated fields (as exemplified by the original poster's experiences in her CS courses).
Sorry, sugar-tits, you can't have your dick and eat it at the same time.