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Neal Stephenson's "Diamond Age" To Be Miniseries

fmackay writes "Neal Stephenson's novel The Diamond Age is to be adapted for a Sci Fi Channel miniseries. George Clooney is producing and Stephenson will write the screenplay — the first time he has written for television."

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Insightful

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  2. This isn't by Renstar · · Score: 4, Funny

    This isn't going to end well..

    1. Re:This isn't by taniwha · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's a Stephenson novel ... it isn't going to end at all

  3. Wonderful news :-) by steinnes · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't wait! Also, I am curious how they will treat the "Drummers" part, for example the way Hackworth "acquired" certain information, he ended up carrying in his body ;-)

  4. No thanks by mollymoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll pass on the miniseries, thanks. I'm waiting for the ractive.

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  5. Fantastic! by toddt · · Score: 5, Funny

    This will give Stephenson a chance to write the ending he accidentally forgot to write for the novel!

    1. Re:Fantastic! by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hehe, probably not going to happen. I figure all of the television audience (that hasn't read the book) will be convinced that the last episode is actually a huge cliffhanger/teaser for the next season and be dissapointed when it never comes, and if the series was popular enough, SciFi will eventually decide to create a second season, probably without Stephenson involved other than to sign rights in exchange for a pile of money, which will be craptacular and make you hate the first season. Either way, it's going to end with pitchforks and torches outside SciFi headquarters.

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    2. Re:Fantastic! by LoveGoblin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nah, never happen. If The Diamond Age suddenly gets an ending, then all his other books are gonna want one, too.

    3. Re:Fantastic! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      This will give Stephenson a chance to write the ending he accidentally forgot to write for the novel!


      Trying to tie a complicated story like Diamond Age into a neat, TV-friendly ending could be one of the worst things that could happen.

      Either way, I'm glad to hear that some filmmakers are turning to good sci-fi literature for source material again. I can stand a break from sci-fi movies all being based on comic books.

      Although I have to say the Russian Night Watch films were quite impressive.

      Now that I think about it, as long as we're mining Stephenson, I could stand to play a good FPS or RPG based on the Baroque Cycle.
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  6. Teh awesome!!1 by inviolet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Excellent.

    Never mind the book's prophetic predictions about the impact of nanotechnology. Far more important, I think, is its identification of the "subversive" worldview. If only all parents and children were exposed to a book like Diamond Age, or anything similar, which gives a real defense of the subversive mindset. Perhaps then, more children might be rescued from becoming another generation of social ballast.

    Diamond Age won a coveted spot in my "Thou shalt read and discuss" box of books for my sons. :)

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    1. Re:Teh awesome!!1 by inviolet · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I agree with the assessment, but disagree with the reason. More important still than the identification of the "subversive" worldview is the identification of that as a tool of the ambiguous worldview.

      Interesting. I would've called 'subversive' the superset because it implies an understanding of the world's ambiguous nature -- that being a consequence of how small our total knowledge of the universe is. A subversive is then able to pierce social conventions because he or she sees them for what they are: simplifications for the benefit of simplified mindsets.

      But good point either way.

      I've given a copy of The Young Lady's Illustrated Primer to the elder of my nieces, with the absolute certainty that the younger will find it and read it.

      I was just thinking how the book's title was meant both internally and externally. Because most of the protagonists are female, it will attract the female audience that (in the current state of affairs) needs it more than males. I say this because males tend to receive a much stronger "trust your mind, take action towards your goals, steamroll anyone who gets in the way" education. Whereas females tend more to receive training to be cooperators. And of course religion comes along and throws another heavy "thou shalt adhere to tribal custom!" blanket on everyone.

      Ever read much about Kiersey and his temperament sorter (aka Meyers-Brigg) ? He identifies two fundamental axes of human mindset: cooperator ("how do others do it?") versus utilitarian ("whatever works"), and abstract thinker versus concrete thinker. Most slashdotters are probably abstract utilitarians (aka NTs), and so they may be the very people which Stephenson intended to wear the 'subversive' label. Whats-his-name, the artifex, was definitely an NT. But perhaps the concrete utilitarians (NFs) qualify also.

      Alas, I wasn't able to find a copy of the faux-leather bound "monstrous chunk of rod logic" edition.

      *golf clap*

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  7. heresy by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I realize I'll probably be labeled a heretic by some of you, but the Diamond Age is probably my favorite Stephenson book (Cryptonomicon and Snow Crash come in a close second and third, though). It'll be interesting to see how this whole thing pans out. Thankfully, even if it sucks, the book will still be amazing. However, with Neal handling the screenplay, there's a decent chance that he'll adapt it well. Then it'll all be up to Clooney to make it good...

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  8. Re:Awesome! by nixkuroi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just play Second Life. Except for teleportation and the two dimensionality of the "Street", you're 95% there.

  9. Re:not on Fox (or ABC/CBS/NBC) ... by the+phantom · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is a miniseries. That means that the entire story will be told in some number of episodes, probably 6-10, and it will then be done. Generally speaking, mini-series are completely filmed, edited, and finished before the first episode is aired. Your concern doesn't make sense in this context.

  10. Re:Awesome! by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, watch the screen closely. You'll like this next bit...

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  11. Re:Awesome! by Snad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now if only someone would make a movie/tv series based on Snow Crash, my life will be complete!

    Snow Crash would make for an awful movie. There's far too much expositionary material regarding namshubs and so forth that would be interminable on the screen and couldn't be cut without rendering much of the story incomprehensible. It (largely) works in book form, but its density would make it impossible to bring to the screen.

    Zodiac, whilst perhaps not as good a novel, would make for a far better screen translation than Snow Crash.

  12. Re:Um, wrong summary on Sci Fi? by Andy_R · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Apart from possibly changing the generation from grandfather to father, that IS exactly what happens in the book. Of course, a lot of other stuff happens *because of that* (the unauthorised copies, 256k mice etc.) but you are going to end up with a pretty convoluted press release if you want to cram the other stuff into the one sentence plot teaser that each of the new series announced gets.

    You can't reasonably expect extrapolate from that one sentence to accurately predict anything after the 1st ten minutes of the first show, which is entirely to be expected from a document that is supposed to attract viewers who don't know about the book (and don't want spoilers) rather than fans who do know the book and want reassurances.

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  13. Re:George Clooney?! by gardyloo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, at least he can't possibly fsck it up as much as he fscked up Solaris... I hope. Christ! Clooney works on that, too?!? No wonder Sun couldn't give those DVDs away.
  14. 'The Diamond Age' is Stephenson's /best/ ending! by dupper · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Something I wrote way back when I'd first finished reading it:

    'The Diamond Age' is Neal Stephenson's best ending. Anyone who says he can't write endings should be immediately pointed in this direction. Of course, this ending is probably detractors' biggest criticism, but I don't think any further denoument was necessary, and would probably have even greatly detracted from the emotional and powerful ending there was.

    Cryptonomicon and Snow Crash could have used some [denoument], to the point where their endings even gave a bit of an impression of a "fuck it" or a deadline rush, so abruptly departing from the wonderful depth of the preceeding several hundred pages of those books. But the abrupt end here was utterly perfect and perfectly excecuted, and left me euphorically dazed for hours after reading it. I haven't been brought so close to tears by literature since Of Mice And Men, or maybe Charlotte's Web. This ending, in my opinion, truly solidified Neal Stephenson as a great Author of Literature, and not just brilliant, witty Geek.

    Sure it leaves open ends (Hackworth, especially), but even with, perhaps even partially because of, that, it works. People hate it because it breaks the traditional form -- doesn't tie up every little loose, nitpicky plot end -- but seem to overlook the fact that, in this case, it was far more literarily effective than structural orthodoxy. It has /character/. A lot of people, many Geeks especially, don't seem to understand that novels, as art and beauty, are not a perfect and coherent system. Sometimes it's more meaningful and important to make that master stroke than fill in all the details.

    I'll also go out on a limb and say The Diamond Age was not about Hackworth, at any point. It was about Neal's intricate thematic and philosophic exploration on Confucianism and Victorianism, and it was also a mother-daughter story about Nell and Miranda. Hackworth moved these things along, but to close his personal story neatly would have felt tacked on and barely emotionally or thematically relevant, and probably /ruined/ the ending.

    Of course, Neal Stephenson reads Slashdot, and will definately read a story about his own work, and he'd probably be insulted by my dumb interpretation, so please mod me into unread oblivion.

    /Neal Stephenson has been my absolute, uncontested favourite fiction (and among my favourite nonfiction) author in the world since the first chapter of Cryptonomicon. Which I picked up after hearing endless praise about it, mostly on Slashdot.

    I also have no fucking clue why he's disowned The Big U, which was a wonderful novel.

  15. Re:Posted to IT by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Funny


    Why is this posted to IT?


          If we're very, VERY lucky, that's the Editors making a really clever point about the information technology discussed in the book. I've got $20 on "no, it's just a fuck-up".

  16. Re:'The Diamond Age' is Stephenson's /best/ ending by Valar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thank god somebody finally said it. Upon reflecting upon the criticism that Stephenson and several other writers with similar style have received (about endings, exposition, etc) I've realized something. A lot of geeks don't want a novel, they want a mythology. They want a complete, well-fleshed out, extensive universe for a setting. As a result, they want to know what happens to every character, start to finish. Think about it-- star wars, star trek, and LoTR all have extensive backstory. It is basically posible to know what happens to every character, and every legendary sword/ship from birth to death. Tolkien, for example, had notebooks and notebooks of unpublished stories to flesh out his universe and even invented languages.

  17. Re:I'm leary of the Sci Fi Channel. by tillerman35 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For that matter, witness how much they fsck'd up battlestar gallactica. I haven't seen their version of Jim Butcher's Dresden Files yet, but from the promos it looks like they decided to fsck up that too (I should probably withold judgement since I haven't seen it, though). Sci-fi channel didn't do it, but look at how Eragon was absolutely destroyed.

    I always wondered how the visual medium could be so obviously run by a group of illiterates with no respect for authorship. It's intensely bizarre. What puzzles me even more are the large number of people who just seem to accept it as a usual practice. Even when their favorite character/scene/plotline/etc is missing or replaced by something entirely different - for no reason the bears any resemblance to a valid purpose- they don't seem to mind. A vapid "oh, well you shouldn't get upset- it's a different medium after all" is the closest you'll get from them to an acknowledgement of the change. Where's the rage, people?

    There have been notable exceptions. The Princess Bride was the best adaptation of a novel as I've ever seen. The screenplay was written by the author of the novel, who had previous screenplay writing experience. That probably explains why it was so well done. The Disney version of A Wrinkle In Time came close too- but proved that some books aren't suited for movies no matter HOW good they are. I'm sure others can name many more.

    We want to be optimistic. We love the written works so much that we long to see them come to life. Sci-fi fans are like Charlie Brown, earnestly hoping for someone in Hollywood to hold that football down just long enough for us to get a kickoff. And the studio execs are like Sally- teasing us endlessly with the possibility of something that won't suck shiat and pulling the ball away at the last moment.

    /Sorry- done now.
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  18. Re:I'm leary of the Sci Fi Channel. by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 2, Insightful
    For that matter, witness how much they fsck'd up battlestar gallactica.

    The new series may have flaws, but anyone who thinks the original was better immediately proves they have no taste. Any series whose pilot episode follows the genocide of the human race (which happens for no reason) with a journey to the casino planet, and follows that up with a dozen episodes about disco Egyptians fighting robots in space, is a dumb series. It might be cheesy fun, but it doesn't hold a candle to the new series.

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  19. Cryptonomicon by DieNadel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think Cryptonomicon would result in a wonderful movie. Parts of it take place in breath-taking locations and it's full of history trivia and important facts.

    Also, the story is thrilling and more in touch with a regular audience, since it connects more cleanly with reality.

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