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WIPO Creating New IP Rights Over Web Content

An anonymous reader writes "The WIPO is currently engaged in negotiating a new treaty on digital IP rights, but they're having trouble agreeing on the particulars. Though the world of YouTube and podcasts seems like a place that 'requires' laws, the WIPO seems confused about what to do about it. From the article: 'The proliferation of low cost video cameras and editing software, higher bandwidth cable, satellite and Internet connections, are creating a highly diverse and dynamic environment for creating, distributing, redistributing and remixing information. To this exciting world the UN's specialized agency for intellectual property wants to impose a new legal regime. The problem is, no one here has a clue what the legal regime should look like.' The U.S. is also pushing for reviving a 1962 treaty (never ratified) that would give the large cable distributors (like Discovery, Sci-fi, Spike, etc) ownership of even public domain content if they carry it. This would be in addition to any rights normally afforded the distributors. "

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  1. Real information rights!!! by argoff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only IP right that is real would be the right to copy. The right to copy and use ideas, information, and invention that comes our way freely without fraud or coercion. This right is just like the right to free religion, the right to free speech, or the right to choose our employers rather than to be slaves.

    There are also dutys, like the duty to call copyrights and patents what they are: a fraud, a lie, and not a property right. Like the duty to call "piracy" what it is: the boarding of a ship and murdering people and not copying. Like the duty to call them controls rather than incentive or protection. Like the duty to bypass and defy people who try to control our liberties via controlling the information we have or via telling us how we must use it.

    Finally, there are other things that are just human nature, like sharing music and information and ideas freely with the world around us.

    Lets just face it, the WIPO are WhImPO's and are against free markets and property rights, not for them.

    1. Re:Real information rights!!! by argoff · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Arrogance like this just gets me so angry ...

      Your assertion that you have some "right" .... is just that - an assertion

      Hypocrite, IP "rights" are the only bogus assertion around here.

      ... if a company spends e.g. $1 billion dollars ...

      ... on importing slaves, and then if someone "stole" those slaves by freeing them, then I would say tough shit, that's the punishment you get for imposing false property rights.

      ...IP and copyright protection make sense and have a rational and moral component ...

      Why don't you just way, "well it's OK for the King to choose what people are allowed to say as long as it makes sense and has a rational and moral component". And the appropiate response would be. FU, pull your head out and use the God given brain you were given to take things to their "rational" conclusion.

  2. You Can't Own Public Domain by Flwyd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Owning public domain content because you show it is like owning some air because you once exhaled it.

    Better start paying Cesar royalties.

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    Ceci n'est pas une signature.
  3. Wait, wait... by DragonWriter · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Problem here:

    Though the world of YouTube and podcasts seems like a place that 'requires' laws


    Uhm, no, regular copyright laws cover it quite well. Specialized laws are not required. Particularly, the US effort to revive a dead treaty which would allow big corporate entities to rope off bits of the public domain simply becaue they used it is not necessary (and, anyway, something the US could not Constitutionally adhere to since it exceeds, quite clearly, the Constitutional power of the US government as regards IP, since it would extend IP rights to someone who is not the creator of work, and that do not arise because of a relationship with the creator.)
  4. Why does *anyone* have to own this stuff? by TheWoozle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If YouTube, et al have done anything, it's show that a different business model can work: the value is not in production of the material, it's in delivering it.

    Previously, if I had wanted lame videos of punk skateboarders doing tricks, angsty teenagers venting their mixed-up feelings, middle-age housewives boody-popping, etc. I would have had to spend countless hours trolling the murky depths and dark recesses of the Internet to find them. Thanks to YouTube, I have a single, convenient place to satisfy my disgusting and perverse needs.

    Seriously though, can we please stop trying to create artificial scarcity? We don't really need it; TV shows, movies, and music worth paying for are already scarce enough.

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    Insisting on "correct" English is like saying that there is only one, definitive recipe for chili.
    1. Re:Why does *anyone* have to own this stuff? by David+McBride · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If YouTube, et al have done anything, it's show that a different business model can work: the value is not in production of the material, it's in delivering it.


      Commercial distributors are very well aware of this fact; they've been profiting from it for decades.

      The reason for introducing this new 'broadcast right' is so that they can continue to do so as they have been in the face of competition.

      Sadly, this is not a new development - this activity has been ongoing for some years. See also: http://www.eff.org/IP/broadcastflag/
  5. mothballs by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Funny
    The U.S. is also pushing for reviving a 1962 treaty (never ratified) that would give the large cable distributors (like Discovery, Sci-fi, Spike, etc) ownership of even public domain content if they carry it.
    Are new bad ideas so difficult to come up with that they have to re-use 46-year-old bad ideas?

    Ill-advised remakes of things that weren't much good in the first place.. you can just smell Hollywood's influence.