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How the Camera Phone Changed the World

theodp writes "Ten years after the amazing Philippe Kahn married a cell phone and a digital camera to capture the birth of daughter Sophie, Slate takes a look at the impact of the camera phone, the gadget that perverts, vigilantes, and celebrity stalkers can all agree on. 'With this kind of device,' Kahn told Wired, 'you're going to see the best and the worst of things.'"

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  1. Some Marriage! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Ten years after the amazing Philippe Kahn married a cell phone and a digital camera

    And people say gay marriage is unnatural!

    And, I didn't know that Kahn is a minister.

    1. Re:Some Marriage! by ddvlad · · Score: 5, Funny
      Well, marrying a cell phone with another cell phone is just silly.

      Yes, but marying a cell phone and two cameras is 3G. What is the world coming too?

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  2. Re:What? by Snarfangel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Camera phones have such poor quality. Why don't you just buy a disposable one for a few bucks and save yourself some pain.

    If only they'd put a crappy phone on a high-quality camera, I'd be set.

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  3. Camera Phones Suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do a lot of business with companies who for security reasons will not let you take a camera phone onto their premises. I also have to leave mine at home when I go to parents evening just in case I might possibly take a picture of a school pupil.

    Now, have you tried to get a non camera phone lately? Difficult to say the least.

    If I want to take a picture then I get my Digital Camera out (Nikon D2x) and do it properly.

    Current camera phones have the same quality as CCTV cameras did 10 years ago.

    I'm sorry (and will probably get modded down as a troll) this is one invention I could certainly do without.

    1. Re:Camera Phones Suck by mabinogi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > I also have to leave mine at home when I go to parents evening just in case I might possibly take a picture of a school pupil.
      what?

      When parents can't take photos at school events, it may not be the terrorists, but someone has certainly won....
      I know that my daughter's school has no problems with parents with cameras, whether they be phone cameras, handicams, or SLRs. Have things really sunk that far elsewhere?

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    2. Re:Camera Phones Suck by identity0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, camera phones do have uses beyond taking fuzzy pictures of your drunk friends. Unfortunately they don't seem to be coming over to the states for some reason.

      If you've seen any Japanese magazines or websites lately, you'll notice square barcode-type things on some ads or sites. See the bottom left of this site. They allow you to use your phone camera to take a pic, then your camera web browser goes to an address encoded in the pic without having to type in the address. Basically the same thing Cue:Cat did, but on commodity hardware.

      Okay, now you're thinking, "So what? I can get ads easier?", but there are other uses for the technology, too. I've heard some European countries have methods of paying for stuff using a cell phone, where you take a pic of a barcode like that, and the price is charged to your cell account.

      Basically, don't just think of it as "A crappy camera glued to a cell phone", but as "An optical sensor attached to a pervasivly-networked device". There is a world of possibility in using it as an input device for ubiquitous computing. Where other attempts to make computer interaction seamless in the real world have failed, the camerphone might succeed because it uses technology that is useful for other things (camera + phone, regular printer + ink), and widely adopted by the public already. It's all a matter of software to make it useful, no new harware needed.

    3. Re:Camera Phones Suck by Ed+Avis · · Score: 4, Funny
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    4. Re:Camera Phones Suck by celardore · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I remember a couple of years ago I was in a swimming pool with friends. They had a little pool for kids to swim in, which was empty save for a gran & grandpa and their grandchild. They wanted to take a snapshot of the kid swimming for the first time, the lifeguard then came over and said they weren't allowed cameras and tried to confiscate it. They argued that it was only their grandkid even in the area let alone the shot. The manager was called and eventually the grandparents had to leave with no first photo of the kid swimming, which I'm sure would have been a treasured memory for the whole family.

      That was a couple of years ago at least, but remember... I live in the UK. These rules are commonplace. I wouldn't be surprised if you're not allowed to take pictures of your own kid winning the race at sports days, just in case you're a pedophile.

      Just had a thought... I know that there are photos of me and my sisters in the bath when we were very young. I think my mother has them in a drawer somewhere, should I report her to the authorities???

  4. Washed out, grainy, bad contrast by king-manic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But I still keep my cell phone picks. Pictures are mementoes for most people. That crazy night when me and the girls snuck into the basement of bio-sci just as it closed and rode around on carts and chucked dry ice into the toilets.... Those types of memories don't need a 20 megapixel roloflex camera. Thats what I use it for.. and also naughty photos. just too pervy pulling out a SLR to take those pictures. It makes girls a bit nervous.

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    1. Re:Washed out, grainy, bad contrast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tell us more of these "girls" you speak of.

  5. why o why? by localoptimum · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I HATE camera phones. What I'd like is a good, tiny phone, where the batteries last for ages. If I want to take a photo I get out my digital SLR and a 700 euro lens, I don't think "ah, now I've got my phone, I can leave my camera at home".

    Here's the problem. The cellphone was supposed to make it easy for people to be reached on-the-move. For "security" reasons we are not allowed to use our phone everywhere, because the people who are taking photos of us and watching us on videos don't want us to take photos or videos of them (just count how many police brutality incidents on youtube also involve the rough handling of the guy capturing said incident on a camera). On european trains there are "quiet" zones where phones are banned, and if we use our phone on a plane then the phone will immediately detonate all of the explosive liquids stored in passenger's hand-luggage and cause sony lithium-ion batteries in apple G4 powerbooks to burst into flames.

    Lastly, and even more importantly than plane death, upgrading the phone's camera just gives the mobile phone industry another excuse to charge you a higher subscription than the previous year.

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  6. HOWTO: Improving a crummy cell camera by dino213b · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think many people have a problem with the cell phone camera quality: If manufacturers bother putting a camera on a cell phone, they may as well have decent quality, right? Well, one thing that is overlooked with these cameras is the possibility of digital (panoramic and frame) stitching.

    By using OSS such as Hugin and Enblend one can increase the resolution of images, add to the field of view and basically achieve the following results:

    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/bedroom .jpg
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/diversi ty_of_books.jpg
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/room33. jpg
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/jsd-van .jpg
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/car.jpg
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/car3.jp g
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/ariz.jp g

    Slightly wider shots:
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/livroom 1_corrected.jpg
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/par-ph0 _corrected.jpg
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/pan-ph1 _corrected.jpg
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/grandca ny_corrected.jpg
    - http://www.cardope.com/misc/razr_panoramic/dd_corr ected.jpg

    Please note that some of these processed images have not been color corrected with enblend - otherwise they would have turned out much better.

  7. Re:What? by lukas84 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Megapixels is only half of the quality discussion.

    A good camera has optical zoom, a bigger ccd (a bigger ccd at the same megapixel still gives a better picture), autofocus, etc.

    Implementing this in a cell phone requires space.

  8. 911 by deviceb · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pertaining to this topic..
    911 calls in NYC will activate the camera on mobile phones so people can send video of the emergency as it happens.
    CNN usually gets images or video from peoples phones within minutes of the incident happening. The 911 people down in NYC just want the same data feed for emergencys..

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  9. Re:What? by statusbar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One problem with the disposable camera is that after you take an important picture, the camera can be 'confiscated' and your picture is gone too. With a camera phone, the picture can be emailed to the world before the 'bad guy' can take your phone away....

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  10. Tons of phones without cameras... quit complaining by Animaether · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are tons of phones without cameras. There is absolutely *no* problem whatsoever getting a phone that doesn't have a camera. Every time an article about cellphones comes up somebody cries out "Can't I just have a phone? One without a camera???", and every time the basic answers is that you damn well can.

    Now the problem is that these people aren't asking if they can have a phone without a camera. And they know it. They want a phone that has WiFi, stereo bluetooth, a big high quality color screen, 3G, can play back every media file under the sun and better yet they can put custom software on and isn't locked to any provider... but not a camera. And that is where you do end up getting into "good luck, mate" territory.

    Seriously - walk into a store, look on the web, check out office supplies stores (guess what - they sell cell phones that are literally no-frills so that employees can have a cheap company phone).. there are plenty of cell phones without a camera. And if that is their only argument, then they shouldn't complain that it is not a very fashionable design or that it only has a fixed-matrix black-and-white LCD display and they can't download the latest music onto it let alone watch that StarGate SG-1 they recorded to Ogg Theora.

  11. Re:What? by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually I'd say that's more Insightful than Funny. While I don't need 70% of the functionality on most modern handsets (phonecalls & texts, anything else is a waste) - a decent bloody camera in the same device (IE. a replacement for a decent point-n-click digicam, I'm not talking SLRs here) is something I would consider using.

  12. Re:The best idea ever! by Thunderstruck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Screw megapixels, I can't wait for the first Video/Camera/Handgun/Phone...

    This would be a great combination, in theory. But do you really want to put a gun into a device that you frequently hold against your head? *Oops, wrong button!*

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  13. Government Oppression by MrSteveSD · · Score: 4, Interesting

    To me the greatest thing that camera phones (and cheap digital cameras in general) bring is a possible curb on government oppression. Around the world in both totalitarian regimes and democracies, people gather to protest about various government actions and decisions. In totalitarian regimes and sadly also in our democracies, these protests are often met with grossly excessive force from riot police. In democracies the police often wait until the media finish and leave before making their move on the protesters.

    However, now that so many people have camera phones (even in non-democracies), it's much harder to get away with such oppression. All it takes is for one person to film a police officer beating an unarmed man cowering on the ground and it will be around the world very quickly.

    I think this prevalence of cheap and portable video-capable devices has lead to a change of tactics in some countries. In an environment where everything the police do is being recorded on video, governments are seeking to avoid confrontation altogether. It has become increasingly popular to either herd protesters into "Free Speech Zones" (in the US) or just effectively ban protests altogether as is the case in the UK, for half a mile or so around parliament square.

    In case you're wondering, I've never actually been on a protest myself. Like most people I am either too lazy or too scared of being clubbed by Police to attend (which is exactly the attitude governments like).

  14. Re:Tons of phones without cameras... quit complain by EinZweiDrei · · Score: 5, Funny
    (guess what - they sell cell phones that are literally no-frills so that employees can have a cheap company phone)
    And about time, mes sieurs! I'm tired of all those literally-frilled phones getting caught on my coatsleeves right in the middle of a rousing bout of lawn-tennis!

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