Slashdot Mirror


Microsoft Launches Comical Effort to Fight Piracy

theodp writes "A week before the release of Vista, Microsoft is expanding its fight against software piracy with a new educational effort that includes comics. Making its U.S. debut Monday, the Genuine Fact Files campaign aims to make Microsoft's message more accessible to a broader audience. BTW, Vista's Software Protection Platform (SPP) can put unvalidated copies of the software into a reduced-functionality mode. From the article: 'Microsoft plans to draw attention to it through banner ads on its Web sites and promotional material that it will hand out through partners. By using comics, the company aims to make the message more accessible to a broader audience. They are black and white, in a style similar to newspaper comics.'"

32 of 332 comments (clear)

  1. So uncool by udderly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't it peculiar that when someone (an individual, gov't or corporation) tries to pander to the hip or "kewl" crowd, it actually comes off as even more contrived and lame. This Microsoft comic reminds me of junior-high school health classes about drugs or sex.

    Besides that, Microsoft has to walk a fine line with software piracy. If they could eliminate it entirely, that would be when you would see a more mainstream adoption of FOSS.

    1. Re:So uncool by TodMinuit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If they could eliminate it entirely, that would be when you would see a more mainstream adoption of FOSS. ... That makes NO sense. If FOSS applications were equal to that of the closed source realm, people would be using them regardless of whether piracy was possible.

      --
      I wonder if I use bold in my signature, people will notice my posts.
    2. Re:So uncool by Scoria · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It depends on what age group Microsoft ultimately targets with their campaign. A 9 or 10-year-old would be much more likely to accept their propaganda than, say, a 14-year-old. Microsoft seems keenly aware that older people can generally recognize their campaign for what it is, but that younger people won't be as cynical, and might not differentiate this from anything else they are taught in the classroom.

      --
      Do you like German cars?
    3. Re:So uncool by MindStalker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What he means is that there are a LOT of people who are using pirated versions of Windows who would switch to something free if they couldn't pirate windows anymore. There is a huge percent of the population of the world who simply can NOT pay $200+ for an OS for their personal computers. Most of China for example, and plenty of places in the US as well. Nowadays you can get a computer for $400 or so from Dell with Windows installed, but in the past when building your own computer was cheaper, there were a lot of people who the $200 difference in adding an OS would have simply opted to have no computer at all.

    4. Re:So uncool by clickclickdrone · · Score: 5, Insightful
      That makes NO sense
      I'm not so sure. There are a lot of reasonably savvy people who are basically just lazy. Got a new PC? Off to your fav. appz source to grab the latest MS Office, XP Pro (probably Vista RTM now), Nero, Photoshop CS etc. If suddenly it becomes impossible to find those, they'll be happy with 80-90% of the functionality at 0% of the price by doing a bit of research, hunting around then grabbing the closest equivalent free versions.
      There are a significant number of people who used pirate software through collage when they're broke, get used to them then when they're financially better off, start to buy the real thing. You'll start losing those sales if they start off with free software right from thr word go.
      --
      I want a list of atrocities done in your name - Recoil
    5. Re:So uncool by Divebus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It will be just as effective as the FBI warnings on all DVDs. That's not a deterrent. Shutting off your OS remotely is a deterrent for the user - a deterrent from using the OS to start with, that is. I wonder which Einstein® thought this one up?

      --

      Most of the stuff on /. won't survive first contact with facts.
    6. Re:So uncool by paeanblack · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My wife is a perfect example of someone who *doesn't* need Windows. She logs on in the AM to check her Yahoo mail account, checks the local news, buys some stuff from Amazon or eBay, then heads to work.

      That's not a matter of not needing Windows, that's a matter of someone not needing a desktop PC at all. Imagine a cell phone cradle that supported a keyboard/mouse/monitor console. She has one console at home, has one at work, and she carries her "desktop" in her purse.

      I'm still curious why we are still years away from practical products like this.

    7. Re:So uncool by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If Microsoft, and the rest, reduced their prices by an order of magnitude, they'd find a lot less people getting their software from illegitimate sources.

      I might be the most anti-DRM/anti-Intellectual Property person around here, but this argument that a company should lower its prices to discourage stealing is ridiculous. You're saying that because Rolex charges $5k for a watch, then it's OK to steal one.

      Microsoft can charge what they want for a product and you can decide whether or not to buy it. Or, you can decide to pirate a copy, but please don't justify stealing by presenting yourself as a crusader against high-prices. [by the way, I'm not saying necessarily that I believe using a hacked version of Windows is stealing]

      I'm also not one of the "free-market" types, but the best way to get Microsoft to lower prices would be to have some competition in the marketplace that competes on price-point (which leaves Apple out).

      Linux does that to a certain extent, but it's not enough.
      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    8. Re:So uncool by aussie_a · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I might be the most anti-DRM/anti-Intellectual Property person around here, but this argument that a company should lower its prices to discourage stealing is ridiculous. You're saying that because Rolex charges $5k for a watch, then it's OK to steal one. I find your claim to be anti-IP while still equating copyright infringement with stealing ridiculous.
    9. Re:So uncool by vertinox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A 9 or 10-year-old would be much more likely to accept their propaganda than, say, a 14-year-old.

      So how is that D.A.R.E. program working out?

      --
      "I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
      -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
    10. Re:So uncool by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I might be the most anti-DRM/anti-Intellectual Property person around here, but this argument that a company should lower its prices to discourage stealing is ridiculous. You're saying that because Rolex charges $5k for a watch, then it's OK to steal one."

      Unfortunately the argument is not as simple as that. The 'protection' put in place hurts the legitimate customer. Imagine if said Rolex decided to stop working because for reasons unknown to you it no longer saw you as its rightful owner. You paid $5k for this new Rolex and the older models never had this functionality before. Then, the line they feed you is "It's to keep prices down!" What are you going to say besides "Really? The price is the same as it has always been!" ?? The result is that stolen Rolexes with that feature removed are going to go up in demand.

      Microsoft wants to combat piracy, right? How's that supposed to work if Windows becomes a bigger annoyance to those that paid for it? There's no justification of 'stealing' here, it's about Microsoft handling this in an unproductive way.

      --

      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    11. Re:So uncool by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is a huge percent of the population of the world who simply can NOT pay $200+ for an OS for their personal computers.
      But yet they can pay for the computer?

      --
      500 dollar reward for tip(s) leading to the arrest of the person(s) who stole my sig.
    12. Re:So uncool by arminw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ....Software is simply overpriced......

      As with any item of commerce, don't buy it if you cannot or will not afford it. Until someone invents an atomic duplicator, it will always cost considerably more to make a copy of some tangible hardware. Software is a product of mind. All such pure mind products, especially digital ones, are intrinsically easily and inexpensively copied, without any great additional expenditure of money or effort. Acquiring the fruit of someone else's effort, whether that effort is physical or mental, without paying the one putting forth such effort is called stealing. If someone has a kid mow their lawn for an agreed price, and then doesn't pay, that person has stolen from that kid. If a particular kid wants more than you are willing to pay, you can find another one who will do it for a lower price or mow the lawn yourself.

      Writing software requires effort and expense. The people who wrote that software deserve to be paid for that effort. Copying software without paying for the mental effort it took to write, IS *STEALING*, morally speaking, and also illegal as in copyright law violation.

      --
      All theory is gray
  2. I don't understand! by Ythan · · Score: 4, Funny

    But are they black and white like newspaper comics?

  3. A _real_ feature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Vista's Software Protection Platform (SPP) can put unvalidated copies of the software into a reduced-functionality mode

    So you can avoid bloat and annoying requesters by not validating a copy?

  4. Good for them! by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny
    Microsoft Launches Comical Effort to Fight Piracy

    Awesome! I can see it now. Popeye eating some spinach and tying an octopus' legs around three unshaven guys with eye patches. Brilliant!

    Oh, wait... did the OP mean copyright infringement? Then why did the OP use a term that means armed taking of actual property?

    1. Re:Good for them! by Zonk+(troll) · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, wait... did the OP mean copyright infringement? Then why did the OP use a term that means armed taking of actual property? <corporate_asshat>
      Because downloading a torrent is exactly the same as attacking a ship, killing it's crew and doing random raping and pillaging. Only dirty hippies that hate America can't see that.
      </corporate_asshat>

      Copyright infringement != piracy
      Copyright infringement != theft
      Copyright infringement == Copyright infringement

      Doesn't make it right, but be accurate when using a damn word.
      --
      "The Federal Reserve is a fraudulent system."--Lew Rockwell
      End The FED. -
    2. Re:Good for them! by Speare · · Score: 4, Informative
      Give up the fight, man, the word "pirate" in this usage is hundreds of years old.
      There was very little trust in the print medium when it was first developed--it was seen as unstable and subject to piracy and fraudulent copying. Authenticity was hard to guarantee: indeed, the term "piracy" was first used by John Fell, Bishop of Oxford, circa 1675, to describe certain pernicious practices of early printers and booksellers. A "pirate" was someone who participated in the "unauthorized reprinting of a title recognized to belong to someone else." "Stationers" eventually emerged as the trusted practitioners who were placed in charge of various aspects of publishing--practices we would now recognize as printing, publishing, editing, and bookselling. Stationers worked out the conventional practices of making books, and thus made printing a viable economic enterprise with the elaborate complexity of producing a book eventually invisible to all but the practitioners in the trade.
      --
      [ .sig file not found ]
    3. Re:Good for them! by shark72 · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Copyright infringement != piracy"

      I agree 100% that many of us find it distasteful to use this word, but to claim that it does not have this meaning is, frankly, tilting at windmills.

      The word "piracy" is an example of a homonym, or as some call it, a homophone. Type "dict piracy" into your Firefox toolbar (we're all running Firefox, right?) to get the following definition:

      "2. the unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc.: The record industry is beset with piracy."

      We're all smart enough not to confuse dogs and trees when we hear the word "bark," so it's disingenuous to suddenly pretend to be homonym-challenged.

      Another common bit of misinformation is that this is some sort of new meaning of the word. Not so; it shows up in court rulings from the 19th century, and if you're lucky enough to have an OED around, it'll tell you a lot more about the etymology.

      Again: you may find the definition distasteful. But there's no point in claiming that the definition does not exist.

      --
      Sitting in my day care, the art is decopainted.
  5. Children Must Be Educated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I agree with Microsoft's campaign here. Piracy is rampant with kids nowadays, and they should be educated that downloading or illegaly copying software is wrong, and deprives hard working people of money that they should have been theirs.

    I understand slashdot tolerates and even condones piracy, but it is illegal and kids should know they risk the punishment of law enforcement if they get caught.

  6. Don't Copy that Floppy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    hmmm, a hip and cool campaign where the message is anti-piracy? I don't think it's EVER been tried before!


    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4837609090 332617729

    1. Re:Don't Copy that Floppy! by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

      That campaign was a roaring success: you don't see anyone copying floppies now, do you?

      --
      Blank until /. makes another boneheaded UI decision.
  7. Typo in Headline by shadowknot · · Score: 5, Funny
    The headline should read: "Microsoft Launches Comical Effort to Fight Privacy"

    Easy enough mistake to make.

  8. It ain't over yet by Dekortage · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the article: "The antipiracy fight is a multimillion-dollar effort, Hartje said. Although it has been going on for some time, Microsoft can't say whether the fight is paying off. 'This is a multi-inning game. We're in the first inning and it is too early to tell what the long-term impact will be,' she said."

    This is the first inning? C'mon, pirated software was online (BBSs) in the 1980s, if not earlier, and even then I could buy illegally-copied software from semi-shady PC hobby stores. Forget "don't copy that floppy" -- how about "don't copy that data cassette" or "this software download will take 16 hours on your 1200 baud modem, assuming your housemates don't pick up the phone and disrupt the signal".

    Nah, it's more like double-death overtime, and Microsoft is losing.

    --
    $nice = $webHosting + $domainNames + $sslCerts
  9. I've heard of this... by staticdaze · · Score: 4, Insightful

    can put unvalidated copies of the software into a reduced-functionality mode Why is this news? This has been done for a while; it's called crippleware. Microsoft just seems to have implemented their own version of it, which will probably suffer the same fate as all other protection mechanisms.
  10. Give us more than ONE FREAKIN KEY by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Paying 200-300 bucks for a personal installation of windows for only ONE computer is incredibly lame. That may have been fine back in the days of Windows 95 when most households only had one computer because they commonly cost an average of 1500-2000 dollars. Nowadays they are going for less than 500, so it seems more common for families to have 2 or even 3 PCS. Why charge nearly 1000 dollars so they can all "upgrade" for a single house? If they ever expect to sell Vista in the magnitude they desire and get the software behind it in a reasonable timeframe, they NEED to include at least 3 personal keys for each $300 vista license, otherwise they'll have to wait for people to replace their PCs with storebought Vista computers.

    Of course after saying all that, vista upgrades will be so uncommon, buying a new PC will be pretty much the only guaranteed way most people will have Vista at all. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

    1. Re:Give us more than ONE FREAKIN KEY by soft_guy · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is precisely why Apple makes MacOS X, iLife, and iWork available in family packs that cost only marginally more.

      --
      Avoid Missing Ball for High Score
    2. Re:Give us more than ONE FREAKIN KEY by Technician · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why charge nearly 1000 dollars so they can all "upgrade" for a single house?

      A simple site license would be fine. MS office was a couple hundred dollars a copy a few years ago. Novel's Star office was less than a hundred dollars and came with a home site license. Needless to say, I ran Star Office at home for a while until Open Office became better and replaced it.

      In keeping the budget balanced and avoiding piracy, many people find alternatives with better terms. We have more than 1 PC. A single PC license is to be avoided if at all possible. This requirement alone has introduced me to Free Open Software as an affordable replacement to the by each PC a copy model.

      The latest casualty is Light Factory. They went from a Registeration name model to a single PC locked registration. In the process, it broke the hot spare for a live performance. I upgraded to Freestyler in its place.

      Is free software the only ones who get a SOHO network and a cheap site license?

      --
      The truth shall set you free!
  11. What is interesting to me... by HairyCanary · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... is that they think the issue is education. Everyone I know of that pirates software does it quite knowingly. Even my parents, who are 60-70 years old, are fully aware that they are running pirated copies of Windows.

    Does Microsoft (and along the same lines, the RIAA, MPAA, etc) believe education is really the problem? I think it's just marketing to justify the draconian measures (DRM and the like) that they want to use to control as much of our daily lives as they can get away with. If it were really about piracy they'd just correct their business model.

  12. It's COPYRIGHT MAN! by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Funny
    Fighting for Truth! Justice! And the American Way! Bravely defending the giant multi-billion dollar mega-corporations from the Evil Average Citizens! Watch as Copyright Man destroys lives! Breaks up families! Ruins Reputations! In defense of the the Good CEO's multi-million dollar BONUS! Copyright Man will insure that his master is able to afford his 14th house in Hawaii! Copyright Man will defend The Company's fleet of private jets! COPYRIGHT MAN!

    In this episode, Copyright Man puts the hurts on a little girl with leukemia, her puppy and her elderly Grandmother...

    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  13. Anbody have a torrent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    omg I gotta see these comix. anybody have a torrent?

  14. Re:Piracy as an old term for copyright infringemt by retrosteve · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...and the usage continued well into the 19th century too.

    Gilbert & Sullivan wrote "Pirates of Penzance" in 1879, inspired by the copyright "Pirates" in New York who had come to watch their London performances of their previous show (HMS Pinafore) and then "ripped" the words and music and performed something very similar in New York a short time later.

    Without paying royalties of course.

    In fact, to avoid "Pirates" itself being pirated, G&S took the trouble to perform it FIRST in New York (they both travelled there personally -- and travelling trans-Atlantic was only by slow boat in those days) and establish ownership and royalty channels, before sailing back home to London to premiere it there.