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David Jaffe - In Ten Years Just One Game Console

The folks at 'The 1up Show' had the chance to interview David Jaffe, the well-known designer behind God of War. They discuss his upcoming project for the PS3, Calling All Cars, the future of the God of War series, as well as the ever-increasing price of making games. From the article: "A lot of games recently it's cell phone, PC, DS, PSP, if you look at EA they blanket it -- it's everywhere. As a gamer, I kind of miss the 'you can only get it on this system.' There's kind of an excitement that was about that back up until recently. With this new hardware, though, that idea is seems to be going away. Is it really all going to come down to first party now? Or it ultimately going to come to one system? 'Cause 10 years from now there's going to be one system because there's so much more third party software than first party software from any hardware manufacturer. It may not be feasible to make it the war of the first party or the war of the exclusives." The entire interview is viewable online.

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  1. One Console = PC by yeggman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As PCs get cheaper I think they will take market share from the consoles, until the PC becomes the de facto single console. I think there are already more PC game titles than console titles, and the penetration of PC's is higher than that of game consoles.

    1. Re:One Console = PC by Bohnanza · · Score: 2, Insightful
      As PCs get cheaper I think they will take market share from the consoles, until the PC becomes the de facto single console. I think there are already more PC game titles than console titles, and the penetration of PC's is higher than that of game consoles.

      This is pretty much the OPPOSITE of what really seems to be happening. Have you been to an EBgames or Gamestop store recently? They pretty much ONLY stock console games, with one small rack of PC games at most.

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    2. Re:One Console = PC by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What Gamestop/EBgame stores are you shopping at? Mine may have walls of Console games, but they are quite spread out, setup to display the games and advertise there presences I suppose, but PC? Two or three shelves stacked face to face, end to end, so dense they could easily fill entire walls. PCs just don't seem to get the same level of attention it seems, but in terms of quality I've always found myself back between the PC shelves.

      But I'm also think PCs have the chance to become as close to a de facto console, not that I think such a thing would ever really happen. The arguments is pretty old, but basically, PCs already have a huge mass of people who buy them for work, document processing, ect. I won't specify, but consider that the smart PC gamer recognizes that it doesn't take a $1000 or often even a $500 upgrade to play the latest games, unless your really behind in the hardware or wish to play the latest games at the greatest settings. With relativly cheap upgrades an average working PC can still play great games. All the consoles have made laudable efforts at 'beyond gaming' integration this generation, but none of them are even close to the PC in terms of sheer digital convergence. At best, I look at home consoles as a sort of bizarro world Mac built for gaming and a little of some other utility (as a general term...) stuff on the side.

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    3. Re:One Console = PC by ElleyKitten · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I won't specify, but consider that the smart PC gamer recognizes that it doesn't take a $1000 or often even a $500 upgrade to play the latest games, unless your really behind in the hardware or wish to play the latest games at the greatest settings.
      Or, you could spend half that and get a Wii. Or, you could spend $100 and get a PS2 and access to hundreds of games never released for the PC. Consoles are really the more frugal choice over PC gaming.
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    4. Re:One Console = PC by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The biggest source of profit for Gamestop is used games and they don't sell used PC games. That's probably the biggest reason they allocate so much space to the consoles (and most of it to used games with a few token new ones).

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    5. Re:One Console = PC by maglor_83 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's rare that I can buy a new PC game, and not have to make some tweaks/install new drivers/perform a rain dance to get it to run right the very first time. Am I the only person on slashdot who hasn't had to jump through hurdles to get games running? Back in the days of DOS, sure, but these days just pop in the disc, click install, and run.
  2. Capitalism disagrees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, companies will just GIVE UP trying to make money!

    I mean, seriously, the only company making a console now that even was in the game business ten years ago was Nintendo. How many different companies have put out a console since then? There's no way that companies will cease trying to make money on console hardware in the games market.

    If he is correct, it will most likely simply be because of computer/console convergence. The only real reason you have a console now is because it interfaces with your TV easily and comes with nice controllers and all the games "just work" on it. If computers become ubiquitous, stable, and easily accessible, I believe it is possible that one day we will have NO consoles. But ONE console -- not a chance.

  3. Exclusive Titles by maddskillz · · Score: 4, Insightful
    As a gamer, I kind of miss the 'you can only get it on this system.'

    As a gamer, I find this kind of statement asinine. I really only have the budget for one console, so I am forced to miss out on some games. I love the Gran Turismo series, but am not going to buy a PS3 just to play that when I have a perfectly good xbox 360. So I miss out on that game. To me, the console is a platform; I am not choosing an allegiance to one side or the other.
    1. Re:Exclusive Titles by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I find it amazingly stupid as well. He actually gets hyped about a game because it's only on 1 system? WTF? In my list of 'cool features' for the game I'll never actually make but will perpetually plan, that is NOT in my list.

      As a gamer, every time I hear 'exclusive' I cringe. I have way too many consoles on my rack at home as it is. At this point, it looks like if PS3 has any exclusives, I'm either going to find a sucker to borrow a PS3 from for a week, or just do without. Do without is much more likely. (I did the borrow thing with the 360 and ended up buying one, though. Haven't regretted it.)

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  4. Wii anyone? by Prien715 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I suppose he means the PS3 and the 360 for which there will be Halo and Final Fantasy as the exclusives. Nintendo doesn't really seem to have a problem with exclusive games (Mario Kart/Party/64/etc, Metroid, Zelda, Smash Bros) and I'd argue the biggest reason behind Nintendo's success is because of their first party games, especially since other than Capcom (Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe), I can't think of any other company that even did GC exclusives (granted, these games were later ported to PS2). With the Wii, it's even more different. The vast majority of Wii games are ONLY on the Wii console. Ubisoft and other publishers are doing Wii-only games with no chance of a port.

    So I don't know what this guy is talking about with lack of 1st party support or exclusives, unless he means Sony and MS.

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  5. He is making a big assumption by jbreckman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He is assuming that all the consoles will be essentially the same, just by different brands.

    Which, essentially, is true. Up until now at least. The Wii and the DS both have completely different input methods, which makes entire genres of games available which weren't available for other systems.

    As long as new systems are not just "the same but FASTER", this prediction won't come true.

  6. Re:Worst thing that could possibly happen by trdrstv · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Having 1 console doesn't help anyone at all, except the game developers looking to make a buck.

    Um... It hurts them too. Remember when Nintendo had 90% share with the NES? The put 3rd party developers over the barrel. Because they could. Sony was no different, and I can't imagine MS being more 'benevolent'. Having solid competition between 2 or 3 providers is healthier for developers.

    Exclusives are important as they drive sales of any console. Most people only buy 1, and they buy the console for the games, not the other way around.

  7. Re:Not very eloquent by HappySqurriel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can't see the "one console in ten years" happening, either.

    If it does happen I fear for the health of the industry ...

    As it has been talked about inside of the industry many times, when you have one platform which is as dominant as the PS2 is/was you end up in a very bad position; you have (basically) no choice but to produce a game for that platform which makes the company who produces the platform grow arogant and stop meeting your needs. If you look at the PS3 you can see the consequences of Sony's success with the Playstation and PS2; a Blu-Ray player which increases the cost of the syste, Blu-Ray discs which increase the production cost of every game, a complicated (difficult to develop for) platform with an inadequate tool set.

  8. Welcome to 1993... by Intellectual+Elitist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Console developers could come together and make a hardware/api "standard." Same type of disc, same hardware capability, etc. [...] Each console would then have its own flavor around it. [...] Game developers then could make just 1 game for all consoles that meet the "standard" and would be assured compatibility.

    Welcome to 1993 -- it's the 3DO all over again.