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The Privacy Candidate

Alsee writes "Wired News reports 'electronic civil libertarians' hearts are a-twitter' over US Presidential hopeful Senator Hillary Clinton's bold stance on the right to privacy. Wired quotes Clinton: 'At all levels, the privacy protections for ordinary citizens are broken, inadequate and out of date.' Clinton gave a speech last June to the American Constitution Society (text, WMF) in which she addressed electronic surveillance, consumer opt-in vs. opt-out, cyber-security, commercial and government handling of personal data, data offshoring, data leaks, and even genetic discrimination." Would you consider a candidate's stand on privacy important enough to sway your vote?

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  1. Hilary, Hilary, Hilary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wasn't she the Senator who wanted to force government regulation of video games?

    So, um, no. I don't think I'd vote for her regardless of what her stance of privacy is.

  2. Please try to remember... by petrus4 · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...that even among other such politicians, Hillary is one of the most blatant, shameless populists ever to have walked the Earth. Her perspectives, her very mind itself in its' entirety is completely for sale, for the purpose of gaining votes.

    She might be making noises about the "right to privacy," right now, but please try and remember that when Jack Thompson and the other usual suspects were screeching and crying about violence in video games, she supported that, too. She tries to determine which way the wind is blowing, and when she suspects that she has, then jumps on what she feels is the dominant voter bandwagon at any given point in time. But she is not the archetypical Slashbot's friend...or really anyone else's, for that matter.

  3. Did anybody read this? by kleinmatic · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm sure few people here actually read this. I can hardly blame you -- it's long, and it's mostly just bland generalities, with the details both rare and disappointing.

    There's nothing new in the speech. She talks a lot about data breaches. Those are devastating, sure, but they're hardly an "issue." Being against data breaches offends no constituency (who *isn't* against them?) -- it's like being "tough on crime." She seems to be against a lot of things that nobody is for.

    However, she spends very little time on what most of us think of when we talk about "privacy" -- that is, the government's prohibition, under the fourth amendment, against searching us without probable cause, and without a warrant. In fact, she comes to the conclusion that the warrantless searches the Bush administration are doing are probably fine. She believes in the same odious calculation that defines rights and security as mutually exclusive constraints, that have to be "balanced."

    Rather, she only takes Bush to task for not letting congress in on the action. That is, had only Bush asked congress for "authorization" -- which would surely have been forthcoming -- everything would have been okay. "Let is in on the action," she seems to say, "and we'll make sure you get the warrants so your policies will be easier to sell to the masses." Instead of real criticism of a policy that's both illegal and that actually makes us less safe, we get criticism over tactics, and parochial self-interest.

    The title and blurb for this are completely misleading.

  4. Re:The right to privacy is underrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't know Hillary's record on privacy, but I suspect it is not good.
    If you don't know her voting record, then on what are you basing your suspicion?

    Maybe the fact that she's a senator, and that the senate voted 98-1 in favor of the PATRIOT Act?

    Maybe she was the 1.

    Nope, http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_li sts/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1& vote=00313 says that Feingold was the 1. Landrieu didn't vote. Hillary voted yes.

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  5. Hillary's record from ontheissues.org by MacDork · · Score: 5, Informative
    According to this page:
    • Metal detectors at school are not much of an intrusion. (Jun 1999)
    • License and register all handgun sales. (Jun 2000)
    • Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
    • Voted NO on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002)
    • Voted NO on extending the PATRIOT Act's wiretap provision. (Dec 2005)
    • Voted YES on reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act. (Mar 2006)
    • And of course... Pushing for privacy bill of rights. (Jun 2006)

    So she supports privacy when it suits her agenda, just like everyone else in DC.

  6. Legitimate invasions by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 3, Informative

    > And just what is it that makes an invasion "legitimate"?

    That country invading an ally of yours. George H. W. Bush's invasion of Iraq was legitimate.

  7. Any examples in mind? by benhocking · · Score: 3, Informative

    This page has a table that shows the number of vetoes each president has made (including a surprisingly high number of pocket vetoes). You'll notice that those numbers are quite high amongst some of our more respected presidents of late (Reagan: 78, Eisenhower: 181, Truman: 250, FDR: 635). Of course you said, "presidents aren't likely to use it when it needs to be used", so perhaps the emphasis is on "when it needs to be used". Do you have any examples in mind? (I'm not disputing your point, I just can't say I've paid that much attention to it.)

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