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Blackboard's "Pledge" Not to Sue Open Source Software

Another anonymous reader writes with a link to the Inside Higher Education site. Those folks are reporting on Blackboard's 'pledge' not to sue open source projects used by universities and colleges. The Blackboard patent on educational groupware filed last year has come under a lot of fire, with many organizations simply seeking an open-source alternative. This newest peace offering to higher education groups has the Sakai open source consortium more than a little bit nervous. If Blackboard meant to set people at ease, all it has managed to do was confirm to onlookers that it 'wants to keep its legal options open.' Blackboard insists that this new pledge affords universities a number of legal privileges, and is designed to make educators 'sleep easy at night.' Somehow, very few people seem reassured. Update: 02/02 17:34 GMT by Z : Bad first link fixed.

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  1. Blackboard just sucks by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm going to say, as a college student, blackboard sucks. Only about 15% of my teachers bother using it, and even among that percent, only around 50% of those who do use it know how. I can hardly use the messy interface of this horrible little system. Honestly, if I had a class, I'd just pop-up an invision or phpbb forum. I've only seen the "submit homework" feature used once. Having a place to get your syllabus is nice and all, but in the end all our teachers have free web space they hardly use anyways.

    The only decent thing blackboard does is connect to our school's account systems so we have 1 account for 5 different systems (library, e-mail, direct payments and some other system too). And personally I see that as a security risk if anything...

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    1. Re:Blackboard just sucks by shashark · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I've been a user of both Blackboard and WebCT - the SAP and Oracle of (sort of) Learning Management Systems - and I've found both extremely horrible and user un-friendly to use - not to mention costly as well. I've also used Moodle - and I strongly believe its very techie-oriented. For eg, you can't expect a professor to install an Apache with MySQL and Php.

      Purely out of frustration - I created my own click and install LMS and content authoring engine named Krawler (shameless plug: http://www.krawlerx.com./ Krawler is *free* and extremely easy to use - all the course/content creation part is drag/drop/wysiwyg and you can create your own classroom, courses, assigments or quizzes in seconds. Since it works p2p, one doesnt have to worry too much about server space or such stuff (imagine a self-sustaining University Intranet).

      At last count, I've had about 200k downloads - and have got a wonderful feedback from the market. Not that I'm selling my product here (maybe I am)- all I'm saying is that there are a few better alternatives to big bulky systems - if you can take the trouble of going out in the market to find one.

      I say use Moodle, or Krawler - they're much better than the blackboards of 1990s. I know I'm whoring my product here - but hey, that's all I got. I don't have the PR budget of Blackboard to get into Slashdot mainpage ;-)

      Shashark

  2. It's hogwash by sterno · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Glancing at the patent, there are two key pieces. There's a piece that talks about having a role based system where there are specifically teacher, student, and administrator roles. There's also a piece that talks about how files would be managed in that environment, permitting uploads, role based access, etc.

    I wrote a system in 1997, predating this by at least three years that did pretty much what they are saying (your patent lawyer mileage may vary). My system was a modification of an existing open source forum product that created the ability for Teachers to come in and create classrooms that students could subscribe to. Any person could be a teacher by creating a classroom, but within the context of a given classroom there was a distinct role of teacher and student.

    They filed their patent in 2000. They are at least three years too late. I also know that there was other software out at the time that provided similar capabilities because, to some extent, I was competing with those products at the time.

    So I call BS on their patent.

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    1. Re:It's hogwash by FireFlie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ultimately proving once again how very useless software patents are. I am all for protecting your code/algorithms from people simply copying/pasting into their own projects if you desire, but if you are correct in your reading of the patent this is just foolish. I don't know anything about patent law, but I'm sure you are right, and there are probably a wealth of other projects that you haven't seen that predate blackboard that come dangerously close to the patent. Call of BS seconded.

  3. What about Blackboard's other pending patents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If you compare the list of patents that Bb has filed for (particularly the ones that they have filed in the last few months) to the list that they agree not to assert against Open Source, there's a significant gap. Here's a list of current pending patents attributed to Blackboard and/or its employees:


    • 20060259351 "Method and system for assessment within a multi-level organization" (Filed November 16, 2006)
    • 20060242004 "Method and system for curriculum planning and curriculum mapping" (Filed October 26, 2006)
    • 20060242003 "Method and system for selective deployment of instruments within an assessment management system" (Filed October 26, 2006)
    • 20060241993 "Method and system for importing and exporting assessment project related data" (Filed October 26, 2006)
    • 20060241992 "Method and system for flexible modeling of a multi-level organization for purposes of assessment" (Filed October 26, 2006)
    • 20060241988 "Method and system for generating an assignment binder within an assessment management system" (Filed October 26, 2006)
    • 20060168233 "Internet-based education support system and methods" (Filed July 27, 2006)
    • 20060026213 "Content and portal systems and associated methods" (Filed February 2, 2006)
    • 20050086296 "Content system and associated methods" (Filed April 21, 2005)
    • 20040167822 "Method and system for conducting online transactions" (Filed August 26, 2004)
    • 20040153509 "Internet-based education support system, method and medium with modular text-editing component for use in a web-based application" (Filed August 5, 2004)
    • 20040030781 "Internet-based education support system and method with multi-language capability" (Filed February 12, 2004)

    If Bb is really serious about dealing with the community in good faith, then why is it only talking about the patent applications that have already been widely publicized?

  4. The real problem... by sterno · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It doesn't quite matter whether I'm actually right or not. If I was going to start up a company to develop software in that market, I'd now have to either pay a royalty to blackboard, or take my chances in court. One bright side is that a recent supreme court ruling established that you can sue blackboard beforehand to get a judgment on the validity of their patent. But still that will cost quite a bit of money.

    That's the problem is that the patent system heavily favors the people that get the patent, whether it's valid or not.

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