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Bill Gates Brags About Vista, Reacts to Apple's Latest Ads

fr8_liner writes "In an unusually candid interview with Newsweek Bill Gates lays it all on the line, bragging about the benefits of Vista, ragging on Apple for their 'I'm a Mac' ads, and claiming primacy in a number of features shared by Vista and OSX. Specifically, it is Mr. Gates' opinion that the Apple adverts are misleading if not untruthful. He makes the claim that 'security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine.' The interview also touches on the future of Microsoft and Operating systems, and some of the company's plans for internet-based computing."

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  1. ring ring by HomelessInLaJolla · · Score: 5, Funny

    > And then I might edit a high-definition movie

    Bill, is that the MPAA on the phone?

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    1. Re:ring ring by GuyverDH · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, he probably wouldn't get it.

      He probably has 20 or 30 HD Camcorders lying around unused, and thought, hey - I can edit HD movies.

      I really don't want to know what's on those tapes. You shouldn't either.

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    2. Re:ring ring by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sorry bud, GP got it right. MPAA = Motion Picture Association of America, while RIAA = Recording Industry Association of America.

      And together they form the MAFIAA = Music And Film Industry Association of America!!

    3. Re:ring ring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Does anyone else think that a name that could be pronounced the same as "the mafia" for 2 companies that have mafia-like tactics might have been a bad idea?

      Hey, you're right! I can't believe nobody noticed it. You know what else I learned today? That it turns out that the word gullible is not actually in the dictionary!

    4. Re:ring ring by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 5, Funny

      I really don't want to know what's on those tapes.

      If we're talking typical nerd sexual activity, it'll be hours and hours of Melinda saying "no".

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  2. Truth or Dare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    'I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine.'

    oh don't worry Mr Gates, we will.

    1. Re:Truth or Dare? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      I think Gates meant:

      I dare anybody to do that only once a month on the Windows machine.
    2. Re:Truth or Dare? by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      It wasn't a double-dog dare, so he's not serious.

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    3. Re:Truth or Dare? by Dark+Kenshin · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... and next we will play spin-the-bottle.

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    4. Re:Truth or Dare? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

      Care you cite some examples?

      Sure. No problem. Will this one work for you?

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    5. Re:Truth or Dare? by jbeaupre · · Score: 3, Funny

      He's following etiquette and not jumping straight to triple dog dare.

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    6. Re:Truth or Dare? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, see, he's being very precise here. When he says "I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine", he means no less than once a month, and no more than once a month. Indeed, this is a great challenge.

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    7. Re:Truth or Dare? by vic-traill · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd rather clean sewers than write malicious code for a living

      No job at Microsoft in your future then?

      /humour

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    8. Re:Truth or Dare? by ikarys · · Score: 3, Funny

      Believe me when I say: Exploiting Windows is like stealing candy from a baby.

      It gives you a deep sense of satisfaction?

    9. Re:Truth or Dare? by GTMoogle · · Score: 2, Funny

      So as soon as Windows has no more users, we'll all be safe?

    10. Re:Truth or Dare? by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 3, Funny

      I guess, but I really wanted an example of a BeOs user.

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    11. Re:Truth or Dare? by scotch · · Score: 3, Funny

      Babies don't even like candy. And there grip is really weak if they do choose to hold on to some candy. What are you, some kind of pansy?

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  3. 4 TEH WIN! by operagost · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine.
    Looks like he lost his temper (and his sense) again. His personality's a lot like Ballmer's, he just can't fling chairs as far.
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    1. Re:4 TEH WIN! by Chyeld · · Score: 5, Funny

      Looks like he lost his temper (and his sense) again. His personality's a lot like Ballmer's, he just can't fling chairs as far.

      What many people do not realize is that Ballmer is actually a costume for Gates, who wears it when he feels he is exceptionally out of control. Any time you see the two of them together, Ballmer or Gates is actually a puppet designed by the Henson Co.

      Jim Henson actually was assassinated when he threatened to reveal these secrets. True story.

  4. WTF by n1hilist · · Score: 5, Funny

    "He makes the claim that 'security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine.'"

    It's almost like virgins talking about sex, I'd question if he actually *uses* his own O/S.

    1. Re:WTF by n1hilist · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, except it doesn't taste like real Kool Aid since it's watered so heavily down with DRM.

  5. Re:Too easy... by TheRealFixer · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, see, you're just confused. Hackers don't find one exploit in Windows every week. They find 4 the day after Patch Tuesday, then take the rest of the month off.

  6. Truth....? He can't handle the truth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This is rich coming from the founder of a corporation found guilty of anti-trust violations. I think he knows a thing or two about truthiness.

  7. Bracket attack by honkycat · · Score: 5, Funny

    [Bill] Gates [responded to] questions in an [unusually] candid [interview]. For [some reason] most [of] his [words] were [interjected] by the editor. This [seemed] somewhat [odd and] excessive [to me]. Did [anyone else] notice [this]? [I] mean, a[n occasional] edit for [clarity] is pretty [normal], but it [seemed] like [every other] word was [inserted later].

    1. Re:Bracket attack by Divebus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Steven Levy needed to fill in the dead spaces in Bill's output - like this:

      Yes, although security is a [The process could not access the file because it is being used by another process]. You're [Overflow at 0x0b26f033: WKSSVC.DLL has stopped responding.] the fact that there have been some security updates already for Windows Vista. This is exactly the way it should work. When somebody comes to us [A Runtime Error has occured. Would you like to debug? Line: 29 Error: Object Expected] we've got [The Program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down] before there is any exploit.

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  8. What's with all the [edits]? by Lazerf4rt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Check out this part of TFA:

    Yes, although security is a [complicated concept]. You're [referring to] the fact that there have been some security updates already for Windows Vista. This is exactly the way it should work. When somebody comes to us [after discovering a vulnerability] we've got [a fix] before there is any exploit. So it's totally according to plan, and that's why we have the whole Windows Update thing. We made it way harder for guys to do exploits. The number [of violations] will be way less because we've done some dramatic things [to improve security] in the code base. Apple hasn't done any of those things.

    Is this a joke? It sure [is weird] to read an [article that] has so [many freaking] edits. I wonder [if Bill] was swearing [like a] sailor throughout [the] whole interview, and they [had to] clean [up] his potty mouth?

  9. Re:You dare them? Really? by SlashdotCrackPot · · Score: 2, Funny

    Considering the release date of Vista, I doubt that the stats you are talking about even have .0001 percent of the infected machines actually running Vista. Not that I work for BG's PR team, just a valid point.

    On the other hand, Bill just might as well s#@* in both of his hands because he's going to wish he didn't say that.

    640 kb to rule them all!!!!!!!!!!

  10. Re:Earth calling Bill by drawfour · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gray. Seattle thinks the rest of the world is insane for insisting that the sky is blue.

  11. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by Gr8Apes · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought he played with some code, made a mess out of it, bought someone else's code, then licensed yet another third party to replace his original attempt at coding?

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  12. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by Ucklak · · Score: 3, Funny

    Which also means physical access to the machine.

    Hell, I can just yell "Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all" and hose a Vista machine.

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  13. Re:Not a fan of the ads by TranscendentalAnarch · · Score: 3, Funny

    They should make an "I'm Linux" commercial.

    They should cast John Roberts, the guy in the enzyte commercials, for windows, and Ellen Feiss for mac.

    As for who would play linux? I'm thinking a /. poll for that...


    New Poll: Who plays "Linux" in the commercial?

    - The Geico Lizard
    - Scarlett Johansson
    - Jonny Lee Miller aka Zero Cool
    - Carrie-Anne Moss
    - CowboyNeal

  14. Re:Not a fan of the ads by MightyMartian · · Score: 1, Funny

    I think they should add a Linux guy who comes, tears the still-beating heart out of PC Guy and ass-rapes Mac Guy. Then he and BSD Guy could go and tag-team on Mac Guy, using PC Guy's bloodied corpse as a weapon, shoving it repeatedly into Mac Guy's stomach until Mac Guy's torso is ripped in half. Perhaps OS2 Guy and Amiga Guy, old codgers that they are, could come along and piss on the corpses of the two most obnoxious and retarded assholes to ever grace a computer ad.

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  15. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Funny

    > The number [of violations] will be way less because we've done some dramatic things [to improve security] in the code base. Apple hasn't done any of those things.

    This statement is borderline libelous. Just the facts, please. Well, in a lawyer-logic kinda way, he's right. Apple has done NONE of the exact things Microsoft has done to their OS.
    Like, if Microsoft fixes a flaw in their security that doesn't exist on a Mac, then obviously Apple has not, nor will it ever take that step. Can't you see how risky it is to pick a Mac, which didn't benefit from years and years of exploit expertise?
    Would you want to risk getting infected on a machine without any known exploits? You should really pick the one with a lot of known exploits... better go with the devil you know!

    [end lawyer logic]

    I'd rather pick the one where holes are patched before they're exploited, but that's just me.
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  16. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by rbanffy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Paul Allen was the brilliant programmer. Gates was the mediocre one.

  17. Re:upgrading by mkiwi · · Score: 5, Funny
    Let's see you run Vista on a 7-year-old Dell.

    I tried, unfortunately he did not make it through surgery. He did give me his peripherals, though.

  18. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by pilgrim23 · · Score: 2, Funny

    this is late to the party but: the LAST piece of actual code that I knwo of that Bill wrote was the port of Microsoft Basic to the Tandy Model 100 Portable, and, I also knwo the 2 glaring bugs he left in it.

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  19. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    To knwo, knwo, knwo them, is to loev, loev, loev them.

    (my apologies if you are actually dyslexic)

  20. Re:Bill is reacting because the media has woken up by Poltras · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is -1, interesting really interesting or just too long and somewhat non-opinional but if you've got time to lose read it? Because that's long and I don't know if I should or should not read your opinion based on the moderation. -1, interesting should not exist...

  21. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by Trillan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought he played with some code, made a mess out of it, bought someone else's code, then licensed yet another third party to replace his original attempt at coding? But he did pick the box color.
  22. "90% of Windows users not dullards or klutzes" by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 2, Funny
    Q: Are you bugged by the Apple commercial where John Hodgman is the PC, and he has to undergo surgery to get Vista?

    A: I've never seen it. I don't think the over 90 percent of the [population] who use Windows PCs think of themselves as dullards, or the kind of klutzes that somebody is trying to say they are.

    Bill's never done tech support, has he?

  23. define: candid by halber_mensch · · Score: 2, Funny

    candid - carefully articulated, with purposed reference to selling points and marketing terms, avoidance of meaningful response to questions, and absolute denial of facts.

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  24. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by nsayer · · Score: 5, Funny
    sober realization and acceptance

    Mind you, that's after all of the denial, anger, bargaining and depression.

  25. Re:Where they love Vista: www.microsoftisawesome.c by bryan1945 · · Score: 2, Funny

    And did you know that part of their solution to keep Vista from being hacked is:

    "don't dual boot linux (this is how viruses spread)"

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  26. Re:PC: Why must you say these hurtful things, Mac? by bberens · · Score: 4, Funny

    In that case, XP and Vista are pretty secure. It's those third party apps like Outlook and Internet Explorer which are the issue.

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  27. Wait, he isn't talking about OSX? by Spaceman40 · · Score: 2, Funny

    NEWSWEEK: If one of our readers confronted you in a CompUSA and said, "Bill, why upgrade to Vista?" what would be your elevator pitch?

    Bill Gates: The most effective thing would be if I could sit down with them and just take them through the new look for a couple of minutes, show them the Sidebar, show them the way the search lets you go through lots of things, including lots of photos. Set up a parental control. And then I might edit a high-definition movie and make a little DVD that's got photos. As I went through, they'd think, "Wow, is that something I could use, would that make a difference for me?"

    Bill Gates on Vista and Apple's 'Lying' Ads

    Hmm, Mr. Gates, I'd definitely like some of those features. Perhaps I should go pick up a Mac. (In black, please.)

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  28. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by pilgrim23 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I am. but it is still funny ;)

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  29. Re:Well, of course he's saying that. by sincewhen · · Score: 2, Funny

    > The number [of violations] will be way less because we've done some dramatic things [to improve security] in the code base. Apple hasn't done any of those things.
    This statement is borderline libelous. Just the facts, please.

    No, it's true! Apple hasn't edited a single line of Windows code to improve security.
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  30. Re:Has the media has woken up? by mgiuca · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait, didn't he already win?

    Anyway, as Lisa Simpson once said: "I can't believe you're actually comparing yourself to Gandhi!"