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Cory Doctorow on Shrinkwrap Licenses

An anonymous reader writes "Web privacy advocate Cory Doctorow is on about shrinkwrap licenses, in his latest essay. They've always been onerous. Now, Doctorow says the new EULA in Vista and even the MySpace user agreement could put users at risk of being sued. He closes with: 'By reading this article, you agree, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all [everything].'"

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  1. Re:Microsoft suing users? by MaggieL · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't imagine Microsoft suing a customer over some small print in the EULA. That's just dumb.

    Then why is it there?

    I hope you don't agree to a lot of contracts relying on a belief that they won't be enforced because "it's just dumb".

    This latest corporate fad for retaining a claim to sue while offering a soothing "pledge" not to under vague, unenforceable conditions is lame in the extreme.

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    -=Maggie Leber=-
  2. Re:Not legally binding anyways ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not to mention that with a click-through license, there is no way of knowing who agreed to the "contract". I could get my underage kid to agree to the licensing terms, and he will not be legally obligated to abide by them because he is not allowed to enter into a contract at his age. And I can use the computer afterward without having agreed to any terms at all.

  3. This *is* something to be worried about by Lloyd_Bryant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Many of the posters in this topic seem to have adopted the "that'll never happen" mentality. After all, there's no real chance of a corporation *successfully* suing people over these outrageous EULAs, is there?

    I would like to remind those posters of the methodology used by the RIAA - threaten, harass, sue, and in the unlikely case that the victim actually puts up a fight, drop the case and run away.

    Consider how many people, in the face of a mere *threat* to sue from the RIAA, have rolled over and paid the amount that the RIAA was demanding? Perhaps these people are cowards. More likely, they simply calculated that paying up would be much cheaper than hiring an attorney and fighting it out.

    A EULA troll could exploit the same methods.

    And the only thing that could put a stop to it would be a firm ruling by the courts that EULAs are in fact non-enforceable. A ruling which the trolls would avoid like the plague by using the cut-and-run tactic whenever faced with somebody who appears inclined to fight.

    After reading TFA, I sat back and attempting to count just how many of those EULAs I had clicked through without bothering to read (after all, everyone *knows* that they are non-enforceable, don't they?). I can't be sure, but the number is most certainly at least three digits.

    I suspect that most *present* EULAs simply don't contain anything that could be used for this purpose. That doesn't mean that *future* EULAs won't include them *deliberately*.

    How long before Wiki has an entry titled "EULA bomb"?

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    Don't tell me to get a life. I had one once. It sucked.