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Parking Attendant 2.0

theodp writes "Would you trust a robot to park your car? That's the question facing New Yorkers as the city's first robotic parking garage opens in Chinatown. With new software and enough laser and radar sensors to make Fort Knox jealous, it's believed that the new facility — which can squeeze 67 cars in space that would otherwise hold only 24 — will not suffer the kind of glitches that caused the nation's first robotic garage in nearby NJ to drop and trap cars."

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  1. The FIRST robotic garage in NJ... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... did not trap cars due to technical malfunctions, but rather due to a contractual dispute.

    1. Re:The FIRST robotic garage in NJ... by rvw · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... did not trap cars due to technical malfunctions, but rather due to a contractual dispute. That sounds more like a "mob"otic garage...
    2. Re:The FIRST robotic garage in NJ... by massysett · · Score: 4, Informative

      In NJ, it was a battle over the software used to run the garage. It was proprietary software, which made it easy for the vendor to hold the city hostage. Remember this story?

      http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/ 08/1512211

    3. Re:The FIRST robotic garage in NJ... by Idbar · · Score: 5, Funny
      If runs linux, I wouldn't go if that runs on MS OSs. However, about the question:

      Would you trust a robot to park your car?
      I think it's clear that robots won't take your car for a spin, won't move your seats and mirrors or smoke in your car. Unless of course Bender is already out there working for them.
  2. Get me one! by lemmen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Get me one so my wife can finally park her car normally!

  3. Not Really New by Garrett+Fox · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't entirely a new idea. Tokyo already has space-efficient parking garages that stack cars using turntables and elevators. I think the images atop this link are fake, but the video appears real and this appears similar to what I saw from outside.

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    1. Re:Not Really New by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 5, Informative

      The picture you think is fake is an actual "garage" at VW. It's not something where you park your car, but it's where new cars are stored awaiting the customers. (You had a hint in the text, plus all cars in the picture are clearly VWs) It's in "Autostad" near Wolfsburg.

      It saves a bit space and is a nice to show off ;-)

  4. Great idea! by CaptainZapp · · Score: 4, Interesting
    They tried such a scheme (alas not quite as sofisticated) in the city of Zurich, Switzerland a few years ago. You parked your car in a lift thingie, left it, acknowledged a sort of EULA in which you certified that you didn't leave life animals in your car and presto! Your car was parked fully automagically.

    The parking worked like a charm too. What didn't quite work was the retrieval of your car (which should happen within 120 seconds according to the specs). The city, as the owner of the garage, had to shell out a few nights in a nice hotel until the less lucky owners cars could be retrieved by manual intervention.

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  5. Self-Parking cars by advocate_one · · Score: 4, Informative

    too late... self-parking cars are already available... in Japan...

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  6. big deal! by keeboo · · Score: 5, Funny

    which can squeeze 67 cars in space that would otherwise hold only 24

    The junk yards have been doing that for years.

  7. In my previous job we had one by MK_CSGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In my previous job (3 years ago) there was a robotic parking lot - you parked your car inside a garage-sized room and a robotic arm/elevator combo. using electro magnets parked it in the "lot" (if I remember correctly it was a shaft both underground and in the building itself). In the end of the day you put your parking-card thru the card reader and the robotic combo. brought it to the garage-sized room. It saved much space and is really cool. The disadvantages I saw where:
    a) 17:00 most of the people in the building finished their work. BAM, long line of workers infront of the garage-sized room. Sure, it can be solved with more "terminals" (aka the garage-sized rooms) but this takes more space. Also, altough in regular parking lots there is also a bottle-neck in the exit, I suspect they will usually be faster.
    b) in the first few weeks of the system's operation there were two accidents - the robotic arm with the elcetromagnets ripped of their roofs. This was solved with further tuning but needless to say that some people were afraid to put their car into this system :)

    Overall I think such a system is good if there is a space problem, but in terms of costs I really don't know how it compares.

  8. Re:Not very detailed by ctr2sprt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The fastest way to make this system really complicated is go with dynamic parking spot sizes. Then you'd need to figure out the dimensions of every car being parked and remember them, as well as periodically reorder vehicles to reclaim "dead" space. ("The parking garage is getting slow, we'd better run defrag!") This would be a really, really neat system, but it'd have to be perfect or the robot would slam cars into each other if it guessed their sizes wrong. And quite aside from the cost to repair the damaged vehicles (and probably the damaged robot as well), I'd be worried about some drunk kids riding in their cars as they're being parked (hell, I'm sober and I think it'd be pretty cool) and getting decapitated or something. Imagine the lawsuits coming from that one.

    You could also make the robots somewhat smart, like we do with elevators, and have them reposition cars intelligently based on when they are statistically more likely to be reclaimed. (At work, the parking garage elevators "park" at the 3rd floor at 7am, then gradually move up toward the 10th floor as the garage fills up.) So statistics may show that most people fall into one of two groups: people who park for about an hour, and people who park for about four hours. The robots could then, during idle time, find the cars which are likely to be recalled soon and move them closer to the entrance. This isn't just a convenience thing: if the robot is fetching a car, it can't put one in the garage, so the faster you can get cars in and out, the more cars (over the course of a day) you can store (and the more money you can make). This would be especially crucial for local events like sports games, where 20k people are all going to be getting their cars at the same time.

  9. Re:Not very detailed by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Probably a Towers of Hanoi type problem. i.e. economically shifting other parked cars to liberate the one right at the back.

    Oh, great. And when you park the 64th car the Universe ends.

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  10. Re:I, Robot by Hanners1979 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm looking forward to Parting Attendant 3.0.

    A hairdressing robot?