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DNS Root Servers Attacked

liquidat and others wrote in with the news that the DNS Root Servers were attacked overnight. It looks like the F, I, and M servers felt the attack and recovered, whereas G (US Department of Defense) and L (ICANN) did less well. Some new botnet flexing its muscle perhaps? AP coverage is here.

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  1. Thank goodness... by NerveGas · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... for resolving caches.

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  2. Re:and? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not that I am complaining, one less bot net to worry about.
    No kidding. I'm always impressed how I never even notice these things until they hit the news afterwards. I don't think there's been anything you could reasonably call a general Internet outage in the last 15 years. I guess you could say of course not, because the Internet isn't "a thing," it's a bunch of separate things that just happen to be willing to talk to each other. To which my answer is, I'm sure glad they planned it that way.

    Besides, DNS is for wussies anyways. Real men don't need user-friendly names for their ip addresses :) But seriously, I can imagine the Web still being useful without DNS if search engines linked to IP addresses instead of hostnames. And now that email is largely a WWW service (hotmail, gmail...) a big chunk of it could survive too.

  3. Re:and? by Feyr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    actually, there was one.

    i dont remember the actual day/month/year, but maybe 3 years ago: MCI updated a bunch of routers, all at the same time, and screwed it up. a lot of people in north america were without internet for up to a day. i think this qualifies as major :)

  4. Re:move along, nothing to care about by Feyr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and consider that these so called "root servers" are actually several hundreds (thousands?) of servers, in different physical locations. i think i remember mr vixie saying F alone had around 200 machines

  5. South Korea, eh? by Quantam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Other experts said the hackers appeared to disguise their origin, but vast amounts of rogue data in the attacks were traced to South Korea.

    Somehow that doesn't surprise me. This is the same country that uses insane amounts of ActiveX, and has the effect of conditioning people to click "Yes" whenever any site tries to install something, right? Wouldn't be any surprise if South Korea was one big botnet.

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  6. 130+ root servers by karl.auerbach · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A few years ago the root server operators (on their own initiative and without asking for, or obtaining, permission from ICANN) took the wise step of deploying replica servers using a routing technique called "anycast". Thus under the name of, for example, f.root-servers.net there are many distinct servers geographically dispersed.

    Consequently today we have more than 130 root servers scattered around the world.

    That's good. It tends to localize the damage caused by attacks.

    What is not good is that these root server operators, although they today operate to the highest of standards and with the highest degree of integrity, are not required to do so in the future.

    For example, several root servers are operated by the US military establishment or by other branches of the US government and are thus subject to being "adjusted" according to military, political, or Atty General Alberto Gonzolez's latest desire to do data mining.

    Nor are the root servers required to play fair and respond to all queries with equal dispatch or equal accuracy no matter the source or the name being queried for.

    Nor are the root servers off limits for sale to companies like Microsoft or Google who could use them for commercial data mining.

    Many people believe that ICANN serves as a kind of fire marshall, overseeing that the root servers are operated responsibly and that the root server operators have access to the resources they might need to recover from a natural or human disaster.

    But that is not the case. ICANN has abrogated that role and has engaged itself as a protector of trademarks and US cultural values.

    Over the last few thousand years we've learned that it's best for long term stability to build institutions and not depend on individual people. Today the root servers are the work of good individuals and organizations that encompass them. We really need to move to a more formalized structure that reinforces the long-term continuation of the good system we have today.

  7. Re:Ban all Microsoft Users from the Internet... by scatters · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are you kidding? I've been using Vista since RTM on my main work system and the UAC prompts are enough to either:

    1: Drive one completely insane.
    2: Insensitize one to the point where one clicks 'Yes' on any dialog that pops up.
    3: Cause one to disable UAC prompting.

    Examples:
    You want to look at the event log... well you're gonna need some extra admin priviledges. Are you sure you want to look at the event log?

    You want to run visual studio 2005... that complains too. Would someone please explain to me WTF running an IDE requires admin fucking rights!

    Microsoft's approach of security by nagging the user to death is fundamentally flawed.

    I swear, if I hadn't turned of UAC prompting, there would be a craig's list posting right now for a slighty shot-gunned compy.

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  8. Vandals and criminals by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Exactly, and I also get sick of "experts" ridiculing and blaming the victims of vandalisim and crime for messing up "their" playground. Nobody blames a homeowner when a thief kicks down their flimsy door and robs them, or a vandal rips up their mail and knocks down the letterbox.

    As I have been doing for nearly two decades, I set up a friends PC just before christmas, and told him "just say no" to unknown applications. He had no troubles until about a week ago, he got a message from the virus scanner about a trojan and didn't understand the options so he just pulled the plug from the wall, called his bank and waited until next time he saw me.

    The first thing I said to him was..."you said 'yes', didn't you?"...he complained bitterly..."No porn videos, No screensavers" I asked in a mocking accusation...."is a screen saver an application" he replied with a puzzled look. I booted it up and showed him how the scanner gets rid of the trojan and admired his new screen saver. The VS options were something like "vault" and "delete", there wasn't a "no" or "cancel" button so he panicked and enacted the "emergency procedure" I had advised previously.

    The guy is not an idiot, he is middle aged but has had virtually nill exposure to PC's, until he went out and bought one. He restores antique furniture for a living, he is over the moon about ebay and other stuff to do with furniture but has ignored FPS games. Not that he doesn't like them he has a PS3 and loves it because "it doesn't do things that are not in the manual". For him the curve is still too steep (and life is too short) to learn how to install and register games with confidence.

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