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Did Gates Fib About H1-B Salaries?

netbuzz writes "While in Washington last year lobbying for higher H1-B visa limits, Bill Gates told David Broder of the Washington Post that Microsoft starts such workers at about $100,000. An analysis by one offshoring critic suggests that's not true. If his analysis is correct, it would undermine part of the case for lifting H1-B ceilings.

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  1. Fraud! by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: -1, Troll

    I know of a couple exceptionally talented programmers that couldn't even get an offer from MS. And now Bill Gates is saying he needs to import foreign workers because he can't find US workers for $100K jobs. Fraud!

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  2. Re:Say It Ain't So, Bill! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Isn't he running for president? A geek with nukes should scare everyone sillier than Al Gore inventing global warming.

  3. Re:market rates change by Mullen · · Score: 0, Troll

    Is it the mid-90s again? That's the only possibility if someone is making that much with only 2-4 years experience. And 100k+, even in an expensive city as Seattle, is still awesome money.

    Mr. Gates is full of shit. No one is making 100k in the Seattle market with 2-4 years experience as a developer. Even if they are very good, they are not making 100K. They might be close to it, as in 80K but not 100K.

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  4. Re:Well duh by HomelessInLaJolla · · Score: 0, Troll

    > I am a Microsoft manager

    Yeah sure.

    > The salaries paid for H1-B employees is exactly the same as those paid anyone else

    You almost had me on that one.

    > It is not legal to do otherwise

    Loopholes, loopholes, loopholes.

    > at that same skill/job level for the government that shows we are not underpaying the H1-B employees

    Works quite well when the job description has been tailored such that only the H1-B applicants, or their equivalent in undereducated citizens, fit the job description. Most of us have heard how the hiring process works.

    > The issue is absolutely finding enough qualified people for the jobs that are available

    Define "qualified" without implying a tailored job description.

    > There are a number of reasons that jobs cannot be filled without the H1-B visas

    But the only reasons which truly matter are loopholes and tailored job descriptions.

    I'm going to stop now. It all sounds the same.

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  5. Re:Bill G is just a parrot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Your mouth and ass gobble up lots of cock, don't they? But something tells me that it gets spit out soon enough, except for some creme filling you greedily lap up.

  6. Re:Well duh by Surt · · Score: -1, Troll

    That strategy implicitly assumes that what they need are trainable skills, and not natural talent based skills. If it's a natural talent, then presumably the potential labor pool is evenly distributed over the world, but there are legal complications to recruiting from the portion of that pool born unluckily outside the US.

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  7. Re:Well duh by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: -1, Troll

    What the hell?

    Worshiping Profit is idolatry, not character.

    So instead of looking for the best talent globally, a company should *pay* for a worker who may not have the inclination or drive to master his profession?

    If they like their freedom that lets them be in business to begin with, yes. If they'd rather have to spend their money on "security systems" to keep out the rabble outside of the gate, you're more correct. It's a matter of loyalty to the country that gave you the opportunity to begin with than anything else.

    I'm no Republican, but if that's not the road to a stagnant country where entitlements are expected then I don't know what is.

    It's only in the last 50 years that entitlements have NOT been expected- entitlements such as a stable money supply, military protection, and providing an environment fo the common welfare are a part of the US Constitution.

    My girlfriend is on an h1b for architecture; she's from Japan. She's also the hardest, most driven worker her company has, and they offered her ridiculous amounts of money (for architecture) during her review because she's such an asset. They didn't hire her because she's cheaper, they hired her because she's good.

    So for your lust, an American should be thrown out on the street?

    I can't think of a faster way to torpedo the American character than the parent's idea.

    I can't think of a faster way to destroy the American culture than to marry a jap.

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