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Brain Scanner Can Read People's Intentions

Vainglorious Coward writes "Reality continues to catch up with Nineteen Eighty-Four with the announcement of the development of a brain scanner that can read a person's intentions. 'It's like shining a torch around, looking for writing on a wall,' said the leader of the project, Professor John-Dylan Haynes . Demonstrating his own mastery of doublethink, Haynes continued 'We see the danger that this might become compulsory one day, but we have to be aware that if we prohibit it, we are also denying people who aren't going to commit any crime the possibility of proving their innocence.'"

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  1. Minority Report and other Sci-Fi by Reverse+Gear · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well they still have some way to go before they reach Minority Report levels.

    As for interrogating people I guess it would not so much be their intentions as if whether they are telling the truth or not that is interesting.
    A scanning would probably take quite some time and involve people being questioned at the same time.
    Of course there are big ethical questions in this, I guess the anti-terror people in CIA and FBI would be quite interested in getting their hands on this technique, that is if they don't already use it.

    One scary place this could be used was to check religious beliefs, in some countries you are prohibited to believe anything else than what the state dictates.

    The intention part would also efficiently could be used for directing different robotics, as for example a fighter plane, which I seem to recall they have been working with something like this for the pilots for quite some time, to save the reaction time from the hand brain to pushing the button or whatever. I do remember some sci-fi movie about this at some point, but it is about to become reality also it seems.

    1. Re: Minority Report and other Sci-Fi by ChameleonDave · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's not quite true.

      Okay, being Jewish gets you citizenship in Israel, making Jewish foreigners and their children the majority of current citizens. However, the Israelis did not ethnically cleanse all of the original inhabitants: a minority of Muslims, Christians and Druze still live there.

      A better candidate for a state with a required religion is probably the Vatican, whose 600 citizens are all Roman Catholic, mainly clerics.

      But this question of states with a compulsory religion is a bit of a red herring. The real danger with this technology is repressive states in general. What if all dark-skinned foreign nationals entering US airports have to take this glorified polygraph in order to check for unAmerican thoughts? What if Tony Blair decides that all new UK citizens need this machine to verify whether their oath of the allegiance to Liz Windsor is genuine?

    2. Re: Minority Report and other Sci-Fi by Elemenope · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You are confusing apostasy, which is defined specifically as 'once being a member of a religion, but turning away from that religion' as opposed to simple 'belief in something else'. Apostasy is thought of in pretty much every religion as betrayal, since you were 'saved' but you turned your back on the truth, whereas if you are merely of a different belief, the attitude is more of pity for the 'ignorant unsaved'. In addition, in Islam, Jews and Christians get a 'not quite as benightedly stupid as everyone else' rank for believeing in the same God; they are called 'Dhimmi' or people of the Book.

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      All the techniques ever used to make men moral have been themselves thoroughly immoral... (Nietzsche)
  2. They need to define "Bad intentions" by scsirob · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If someone (say, the infamous "terrorist") walks around planning to do something bad, I'm sure in his mind it's recorded as doing something good. How is this system supposed to tell what's good and bad?

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    To Terminate, or not to Terminate, that's the question - SCSIROB
  3. Re:Very Disturbing by pubjames · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is, as of yet, no laws prohibiting thinking about commiting a crime.

    I think about commiting crimes quite a bit. How would I rob a bank, for instance? Or "disappear" someone, without getting caught? If my country was occupied by a foreign army, what could I as an individual do to cause maximum damage to it?

    These are interesting and fun mental exercises, and of course novel writers think about this kind of stuff all the time. I just do this stuff in my head, and that's where it will stay. It does worry me however that these days it seems the law is beginning to view talking about doing something as if it was proof you will actually do it. If I had a friend that also liked doing this kind of mental exercise, and we discussed this kind of stuff via IRC, for instance, in the not too distant future I could envisage getting a visit from the police, or even ending up in jail, just for talking about stuff.

  4. "If my thought dreams could be seen..." by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "...they'd probably put my head in a guillotine," as Dylan sang.

    Quite apart from the ethical concerns this technology poses, the following tidbit is truly fascinating:

    The researchers are honing the technique to distinguish between passing thoughts and genuine intentions.
    I'd like to see if the technology could be harnessed for monitoring creativity, which is in one sense "passing thoughts." Suppose you could decipher activity that amounts to what we call inspiration. Now, with a feedback loop mechanism, you could see what affective states produce your best ideas.

    I want one of these to play with before the Thought Police get them.

  5. Re:Very Disturbing by Archtech · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "There is, as of yet, no laws prohibiting thinking about committing a crime".

    Strictly speaking, this is no doubt true. After all, how could you frame such laws, and how would you determine if anyone were guilty of breaking them?

    On the other hand, conspiracy is a crime and may be a very serious one, punishable by long periods in prison. What is a conspiracy? It may be no more than two people discussing some things that they *might* do some time in the future. No criminal act, you see. But still deemed to be a crime. Why is conspiracy a crime and not intention? I believe the real reason is simply that intentions have not previously been detectable or provable.

    There is a deeper, far more worrying implication. These and other similar experiments have shown that researchers can sometimes know exactly what another person is going to do *before that person himself knows*. (We'll ignore that 70 percent accuracy rate for the time being). I think you will agree that drives a coach and horses through the idea of free will, and hence of criminal responsibility. If you can know, before I make up my mind, that I am going to commit a crime, and you arrest me for that intention - or just to prevent the crime - how can anyone possibly argue that I made a decision to commit the crime? I never got that far!

    I have always thought that the dichotomy between free will and predestination was fallacious, based on a lack of imagination or accurate language. I have an apple; I can either eat it, or leave it. Which will I do? Imagine God, who knows everything past, present, and future. He knows if I am going to eat the apple, just as he also knows when and how I shall die. If you prefer a non-religious alternative, consider the universe as a four-dimensional space in which all future events are just as fixed as past ones. Either way, the future is predetermined.

    Yet, at the same time, we have free will from our own point of view - because we don't have any way of knowing what will happen in future, even the things that we are going to do. Until I have either eaten the apple or put it away, I may not know what I am going to do. Similarly, armed with a knife and faced with someone who has wronged me, I may either stab them or not. Do I "choose"? Well, yes, or the word "choose" means nothing. But there isn't a little man in my head making decisions for me. In short, when we say someone chooses to do something, it is mostly a "black box" description that is useful for talking about other people. Look inside yourself for choice, and it isn't really there. It's like a rainbow - visible only from a distance.

    Experiments like these will eventually force us to confront the fact that punishing people for their "moral choices" is inconsistent with our scientific knowledge. We may well *choose* to go on doing so anyway, of course. Or we could shift our ground a little, and say that punishment is a way of conditioning people not to commit crimes - adjusting the expected outcome so that it is less likely to be an attractive one.

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    I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.