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The Pirated Software Problem in the 3rd World

RockDoctor writes "Dark Reading carries an article by one Nathan Spande who works in Cambodia. Locally he finds that OpenOffice.Org and MS Office are the same price ($2), or $7-20 by downloading. He discusses why the economics of OpenSource don't work in this environment, and how it contributes to global computer security issues through the "little extras" (trojans, spambots and other malware) that typically accompany such "local editions" of software. The economics of software outside the west are very different to what most people are used to."

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  1. Nice Suttle FUD in the article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Most of the big group releases do NOT have Trojans and other crap inserted. the big release groups pride themselves in having a clean release.

    I love how the article has BSA FUD stuck in to add that little flair of "security problems".

    1. Re:Nice Suttle FUD in the article. by reynaert · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most of the big group releases do NOT have Trojans and other crap inserted. the big release groups pride themselves in having a clean release. Right, but he's not talking about big release groups. He's talking about cd's sold on Cambodian markets. I can quite imagine one of those vendors wanting to operate a spam network on the side.

    2. Re:Nice Suttle FUD in the article. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I can quite imagine one of those vendors wanting to operate a spam network on the side.

      I'm in Thailand, and I assume the situation is pretty similar. Copies of new release software go for about the same price here anyhow. What you're saying is possible, sure, but I think pretty rare. The guys who sell this stuff are just not that sophisticated - they download it all from the net and burn the CDs on a handful of PCs. Some places burn the CDs on demand - you have to wait 10 minutes for an unlabeled disk with a poor quality photocopy for a cover. Of course, you still have to worry about the hackers who created the image.

      By contrast the DVD rackets are clearly organized crime of the highest calibre. The product there is in general very good quality, packaging would pass for original, pricing is around $2/dvd. I've heard it said that stuff comes from southern China, but it's hard to tell.

  2. good luck trying to stop that by fbhua · · Score: 5, Informative

    This means fundamentally changing the way people live.

    Let's take the case of Bangladesh. We have about 150 million people here, although a large chunk of that figure aren't your potential customers.

    Facts:

    - All foreign-produced movie DVDs and audio CDs are pirated. Yes. All. You can't legally buy legit copies of this stuff there.
    - All home / office use software is pirated, unless you're working for a top multinational company. Purchasing a computer implies that it would come loaded with whatever software you prefer.
    - All games are pirated

    The prices are astonishing. It costs about 1 USD for CDs, 2 USD for DVDs. It doesn't matter what's the content.

    How do you promote any software when Adobe Photoshop is the default image editor? When a software developer can choose any tool he wants with zero licensing and distribution costs, guess which platform wins out.

    People want the best software and want access to the latest music and movies. It's been very low priced since forever. I can't imagine how would anyone go about asking them to change their consumption habits.

    No "piracy is theft" argument doesn't work here. People feel that they have the right to rip-off any foreign-produced stuff because those companies are profitable anyway.

  3. Well, he's partly right by cathyy · · Score: 5, Informative

    He's right about the difficulty in getting legitimate copies of software. He's right about there being a virus, trojan, and spyware problem, too. He's wrong about the reason. It's not infected pirate copies of software. As the previous poster said, those copies are clean.

    It's the people who buy the latest best copy of Norton anti-virus...pirate...and never get a virus definitions update because they can't register their program. They think they are safe and protected, because they are running an antivirus program.

    It's the people running pirate Windows and IE and Office with no updates or patches, because even if they can register them (and typically they can't), they don't have the bandwidth to download security updates.

    And I'm not talking about mere individuals. I have observed the counterfeit Windows version message on the computers in hotels, and not a cheap ones, either. What else are the corporations supposed to do when legitimate software can't be had, and your English isn't good enough to make calling Microsoft to buy a license to legitimize your pirate copy a viable option?

    How do I know all this? I, too, live in a third world country, specifically Thailand. I have looked for legitimate software. I have seen pirate software in major foreign-owned stores like Tesco and Carrefour, as well as in the well-known locales for pirate software like Chatuchak and Pantip.