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Microsoft Getting Paid for Patents in Linux?

kripkenstein noted an Interview with Jeremy Allison where the interviewer asks 'One of the persistent rumors that's going around is that certain large IT customers have already been paying Microsoft for patent licensing to cover their use of Linux, Samba and other free software projects.' and Jeremy responds "Yes, that's true, actually. I mean I have had people come up to me and essentially off the record admit that they had been threatened by Microsoft and had got patent cross license and had essentially taken out a license for Microsoft patents on the free software that they were using [...] But they're not telling anyone about it. They're completely doing it off the record."

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  1. Plausible, but no proof by daeg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While the idea is plausible and scary, where's the proof? If I were being threatened by Microsoft, I'd sure as hell make it public. What better way to defend yourself than getting support of the entire Linux/Free Software community?

  2. Re:Why shouldn't they ? by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Contributory copyright infringement.

    Quoting GPLv2 section 7:

    For example, if a patent license would not permit royalty-free redistribution of the Program by all those who receive copies directly or indirectly through you, then the only way you could satisfy both it and this License would be to refrain entirely from distribution of the Program.

    If you take out a Microsoft patent license, then you make copies of a Fedora CD to install throughout your organization, you are guilty of copyright infringement. Microsoft knows this.

    (If you argue that making copies of Fedora CDs in violation of the GPL isn't actually copyright infringement, then neither is making copies of Windows 2000 CDs. I doubt that's Microsoft's position.)

  3. If you do that.... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... you can as well hand over your company to Microsoft and do something else. Like flipping burgers.

    If you think the shares of a company going open about something like this would tank, I would like to see what would be the result for MS shares (whose price had remained pretty flat for some time now).

    I think this article is baseless, but it is nice weekend speculation, conspiracy theories and all that.

    But then again, if somebody would have described SCO's actions before they started their disgraceful charade, few would have believed it.

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  4. IBM and other Linux OEMs? by javacowboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wouldn't you think that IBM, HP, and other large Linux server sellers would be a little annoyed at Microsoft shaking down their customers? The more their customers get shaken down, the less like IBM and all would get repeat business, right?

    I would think that IBM could charge Microsoft with Racketeering (which is essentially what MS is doing) on behalf of their Linux customers.

    Maybe the average corporation doesn't have the clout to stand up to Microsoft, but IBM does.

    (Note: I'm not really a big IBM fan. I'm just pointing out that Microsoft isn't infallible).

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  5. Re:fuck IP and MS and everybody by Elektroschock · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is much cheaper to invest in lobbying against software patenting. Europe tells a lesson here. It is just a matter of ressources. Support the anti-softpatent movement.