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January Game Sales Explode, Wii Dominates
njkid1, as he does from time to time, passed us a link to a story on the GameDaily site. Today they're discussing the January NPD numbers for the games industry. In short, they're terrific. Software sales totaled $549 million for the month, up a staggering 53 percent over last year. Hardware sales were brisk as well, with the Wii selling around 436,000 units. Trailing behind were Microsoft and Sony, with 360 hitting 294,000 units sold and the PS3 selling 244,000 units. January had an extra week, which resulted in 'inflated' sales, but even after normalizing the data things were tremendous for the games industry in a month where there's normally a post-holiday slump.
"Wii's total software sales reached almost a million units at 977,225, while total PS3 software sales came in at 662, 847."
Sony loses money on each PS/3, in the hopes that they'll make it up with licensing fees from the games they sell.
Nintendo doesn't. AFAIK, they've yet to sell any of their consoles at a loss in an effort to gain marketshare.
So Sony is losing money to Nintendo on the front end (hardware) and the back end (software).
That's gonna hurt...
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With the Wii's success, one could only hope that developers will start paying more attention to gameplay innovation rather than graphical innovation. I think the success of Nintendo's new console underscores a revolution that has been waiting to take place in the gaming industry: an emphasis on playability and fun over impressive visuals. Now, if we could just combine next-gen visuals with next-gen gameplay -- a gamers' nirvana!
The least expensive console sold the most units? WOW!!!
Good news for the rest of us: those expensive consoles are going drop prices quick or be forgotten. Consumers win when things like this get reported.
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You are right, but you are also arguing against a zealot. The Nintendo fans are diehards and they exult in any Nintendo success. Also, they seem weirdly convinced that great graphics and fantastic gameplay are mutually exclusive.
Once the good games start rolling out for the PS3, and people realise that immersive graphics can only improve gaming, then the PS3 will come into its own, and the Wii will look like what it actually is: a great system for kids and people who want the console equivalent of party games. It's an honourable niche to fill.
February's numbers should be interesting.
From Kotaku:
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/hardware-wars-d
Here are the current hardware sales in the land of the rising sun for the week of February 4th to the 11th.
* Nintendo DS Lite - 201,177
* Wii - 78,550
* PSP - 32,175
* PLAYSTATION 3 - 23,431
* PlayStation 2 - 16,033
* Xbox 360 - 4,811
* Game Boy Advance SP - 980
* Game Boy micro - 884
I rather like the comment which noted the following:
Wii Sales > PSP sales + PS3 sales + PS2 sales + 360 sales + GBA sales + Micro sales
DS Sales > Wii Sales + PSP sales + PS3 sales + PS2 sales + 360 sales + GBA sales + Micro sales
So I want to make sure I have this right?
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Wii is outselling PS3 almost 4:1
For every 1 PS3 there are almost 10 Xbox 360's
Sony = awesome?
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ROFLOL. Sorry, that's been one of my pet peeves for some time now. Check the box again. As pretty as they look none of the FF games (or Kingsdom Hearts) run in progressive scan (at least on the PS2). Some run in 16:9 widescreen, but they are all 480i.
FFXI is 480p on the X-box 360, and if you run Kingdom Hearts "Chain of Memories" through the Gameboy player you can get 480p on that.
The Wii at 480p seems right in line with the focus they've been given in the past.
When was the last time Nintendo sold 500,000 consoles per month during a non-holiday season in just North America? Dude, that is a LOT of consoles. So many that the Wii has sold almost half as many units as the XBox 360 has sold in its entire lifetime. So many that Nintendo has already sold about 1/4 of the units that the Gamecube sold in its entire lifetime.
Think about that. 1/4 the number of Gamecubes in 1/4 of a year. Wow. I'd hate to be the guy who management is leaning on to improve Nintendo's production capacity.
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This is not troubling for Sony - let's check Xbox 360 last year at this time. Gamasutra reports that last January 2006 Xbox 360 sold approximately 250,000 units, about the same as PS3 this year. That's without a competitor with an excellent games library or a competitor which is the newest fad and phenomenon that outsold you 2:1. In fact, this January the Xbox only sold 40,000 more than last January. And that's without the supply issue that last year's sales displayed. So basically, the 360 isn't exactly red hot either. If the 360 was so amazing, it'd be killing the PS3. As it is, it's barely holding on.
Except Dragon Quest is about the gameplay, and they clearly think that the DS will offer superior gameplay.
Final Fantasy is all about the shiny graphics, and has been since FF6. (Yes, 6. 6 is one of the buggiest games to ever be released on the SNES. One of the character's abilities would actually crash the game.) 6 stopped the focus on the game and moved it onto the graphics. It added a 3D-ish world map, to the point where the airship actually moved in 3-D (which accomplished absolutely nothing game-play wise), and increased the graphical quality over the previous FF games.
It's no wonder that FF7 went all-out CGI, since 6 was already moving in that direction.
Hell, the most recent FF game went even further on the flashy graphics front, automating most of the actual gameplay and turning the game into a glorified 40-hour long movie.
FF has become Square's platform for showing off what they can do graphically. There's no way FF13 will be on the Wii, because they'd have to give up shiny and concentrate on the gameplay, something they stopped doing at FF6.
In fact, it's almost guaranteed that FF13 won't leave the PS3, since the PS3 has the most flashy CGI potential of all the next-gen consoles. At the very least, unless they want to release FF13 on multiple disks, Blu-ray is likely to be the only format that can hold all the crappy, time-wasting, non-game related CGI they love to shove into their games.
So it's fairly safe to say that Square's graphics showcase game series will not ever see the Wii. The main line Final Fantasy "games" are really just fancy long graphical demos, and have been since FF6.
I guess I don't see it the way you do. I would argue that for a $600 console with one exclusive title worth playing, it is selling pretty darn well. After they iron out the bugs and more titles start to come out, I think that they'll easily overtake Microsoft. Although the Blu Ray format is virtually worthless right now, as more people get HDTV's and more Blu Ray's are released the feature will be more valuable to consumers. The system is supposed to be able to last for a while. The 360 has been out for a year and they're already discussing releasing a new one in May with a bigger hard drive. Microsoft's Xbox came out after the PS2 and died out way before it. Although people keep saying that it is sitting on store shelfs, I still can't find one in my area (Manhattan), and every time Amazon gets a shipment they sell out immediately. I see posts all the time from people on the internet saying that their Walmart in the middle of nowhere has had them on the shelves for ages, and it really isn't surprising given the price point, but they are selling like hotcakes over here, and if Sony had twice as many of them, they would have sold them. Even if Nintendo does keep up these sales figures, it still won't have the graphics and gameplay that some people want. I don't think the 360/PS3 debate will become moot any time soon.
I don't think anyone can predict exactly which console will be the most dominant (short of the DS and it's successor wink wink nudge nudge) in a year and a half's time from now. These figures showing the wii so far out in front have to get under Sony's collar, and were probably part of their 'worst case scenario' or something like that amounting to miscalculating their launch and the power of Nintendo to surge ahead in the initial leg of this race. It's all going to come down to titles, in the long run, if Sony can get them developed over the wii and 360, they can be the winner and depending a bit on the blu ray debacle with them being the most powerful system of the three if they can get the titles and the inevitable price drop, people will buy it. It's all too early to tell though. Initially with the wii's low point cost and appeal with their controller, and support of their DS in sales to support the wii win or lose - they're the winner right now. Remember the PS usurped control over the 64 a one time and became the heir apparent, now thing are starting to come full circle except it remains to be seen whether the big N can keep the dominance with a lack of exclusive titles. Nintendo are going to need a lot more quality exclusive titles than they did with the Gamecube to stay on top IMO. That's been their problem since the 64, a lack of titles really. Essentially right now, there's (3)800 pound gorillas in this ring and anything is possible right here and now looking a year off down the road.
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We're talking about Final Fantasy, though.
Remember when it jumped to the PlayStation? The customers followed it, not the other way around.
They've demonstrated in the past that they'll release Final Fantasy for whatever they think will have the flashiest graphics.
You'd have to be insane to think they'd pass up on an HDTV console for FF13. FF13 might move to the XBox 360 (and why not, FF11 already got ported to it), but there's no way it'll be released for the Wii.
Earlier this year Square-Enix announced that for the 20th anniversary of the original release of Final Fantasy, they'd be releasing PSP versions of the GBA releases. Square-Enix clearly doesn't care about where the customers are, only where they can make the prettiest (but not necessarily most fun) games.
Exactly. I think the announcement for a Wii2 will come even earlier than 4 years. Nintendo is making a shitload of money right now with the DS and the Wii (and rightly so). So it looks VERY likely that the Wii will have a shorter lifespan than previous consoles and especially compared to the other current generation consoles.
Interesting. I haven't yet seen one of these mythical Wii's (never any in stock). So I don't truly know if the graphics are so terrible. Also, what is a mature game? Call of Duty is on Wii right? I'm sure that some sort of sword fighting game is on Wii, right? As a personal thing, I don't need a whole wack of crappy 'mature' games. I need 3 or 4 great games (which could, or could not be 'mature'). Does the Wii lack 'great' games? Perhaps the Wii's lack of power is stopping games like Oblivion? Man Oblivion would be awesome with the Wii controler... "Total Immersion!"
Why are so many people so shortsighted? HDTV is the future.
HD may be the future, but the issue is it isn't the present. Currently I own an HDTV, and an HD DVD player. I enjoy them immensely, but I am (by having them) in the minority. About 17% of households in the US have 1 or more HDTVs. That means 83% don't, and our adoption rates have been better than either Japan and Europe. Now HD is a niche (albeit growing) market. It will take several more years for it to hit mainstream adoption. DVD only surpassed VHS sales after the players hit the $50 and under price point.
In 5-10 years it may be mainstream, but Nintendo has banked that it won't hit 'critical mass' within the 4-6 year life expectancy of the Wii. I'll bet that the next Nintendo will push HD, but in the interest to cater to the largest possible market they have chosen SD.
I own a PS3, an xBox360 & a Wii. I also play them on a 720p TV. Here is my perspective...
I bought the PS3 first (11th Nov 2006) & was pretty impressed from day one. Of the few games I owned back then, I felt that gameplay & atmosphere was superior to that on the xBox360 (that I had played at friends houses)
When I talk about "gameplay & atmosphere" I mean this - the way that a game can draw you in, inspire you to play, leave you wanting more, a compelling story with rewarding/challenging gameplay.
I consider Resistance to have a moderate amount of this, CoD3 lots, Halo very little.
Some months later I bought an xBox360. I was disappointed at range of games available on the PS3 & their slow appearance. I expect this to pick up in the next few months, but at the moment only MGS has me drooling.
I was pleasantly surprised with the xBox360. I picked up a few decent games right away & at the moment I play the xBox360 much more that the other two consoles. Deadrising is fiendishly difficult, but very addictive & compelling. It even inspired me to watch "Dawn of the Dead" on a saturday morning before diving into some zombie chopping action.
xBox live is a great feature, despite my previous opinion that it wasnt something I would use - the demos etc are a real bonus.
My 2 small gripes about the xBox360 are the subscription fee for online play & the noise of the xbox fans. It is very noisy compared to the silent PS3.
Otherwise, I put the xBox360 above the PS3. More games & more fun. But I wouldnt rule out the PS3 yet, I think there will still be some nice things to come.
The Wii was a bit of a novelty buy. I didnt expect it to form a big part of my gaming life - & I was right. The innovative control system is indeed inspired & great fun, but the games are just time fillers. Wii sports is, erm, well not much more than a demo. I can see it being nice for children aged 3-8, but beyond that it's not really for serious games.
I have this great Marble game though, you are a marble & you roll around on various floating mazes to reach the goal. This game really does get addictive & I often play it for 10 mins or so to warm up before getting into some real hi-def arcade action on the xBox360 or PS3.
The Wii is selling well. It's cheap. I put this down to: people don't look beyond the price for their purchase / or / they are crap at games
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Is a new PS3 console.
Remove the hard drive and bluray drive. Replace blu-ray with a Sony DVD drive and make the HDD optional add on if possible.
If Sony removed those two components with lower cost solutions, they could knock off $100-$200. They could easily sell a PS3 at $299-$399 instead. That is a much better price point. PS3 could compete with both 360 and Wii better.
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Even $500 is too much, though: I paid about $250 for my TV, and in my mind that's how much TVs cost. Judging from the installed base, I'm not the only one with that opinion. I've seen HDTVs in lobbies, casinos, bars, and electronics stores, and I've been bombarded with advertising for them, but I've only ever seen one HDTV in an actual house, and it was a rear projection unit that looked awful. The prices will only drop, and the install base will only rise in the future.
Why are so many people so shortsighted? HDTV is the future. I'm sure it will be... but it isn't the present. Until HDTV is affordable, not many people are going to care about HD quality graphics, Blu-Ray or HD-DVD, because they won't be able to use them anyway. By the time HDTV has been adopted widely, it'll be time for a new round of consoles anyway.
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I don't think it's fair to say that Wii is 'dominating'. They are playing for a different core audience (while there is crossover between 'casual' and 'hardcore' gamers, they are not the same market). In terms of sales they've got a leg up for January of about 40% over MS and 45% over Sony, but it's worth keeping in mind that the Wii retails for close to 40% less than 360 and 60% less than PS3. Anyone can flog a product that's less than half the price of the competition. Additionally there's a massive amount of media hype surrounding it, which won't be sustained. There is continued demand because they were unable to manufacture enough over Christmas - people who missed out on one to put under the tree are likely still trying to grab one. Finally, Nintendo systems have always sold well out of the blocks. Wake me up in six months and we'll see if they've kept their momentum. They're going to need some substantial third-party support too, something which they've really shown no signs of having at all. The hardware sales aren't nearly as important as the software sales, and on that front Wii only had one of the top 5, and it wasn't close to the top-seller for the month (Lost Planet).
Personally, I'm skeptical as to whether Nintendo can keep the same momentum going given the lack of software in the pipeline. And additionally, as a gamer I hope that everyone is dead wrong about them dominating the market. I'm not a casual gamer, and while a few fun gimmicky toy games like Wii sports are great, I would die if everything was like that. For me, the games Nintendo seem to be pushing are like candy - they taste great, but they burn away pretty quickly and in the end you can't sustain yourself on them.
This is doubly troubling for Sony. The developers are likely to build cross platform games, which means they won't be taking full advantage of the cell processor. In other words most games will look similar on the PS3 and Xbox 360, which removes one of the major advantages of the PS3.
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Wii has issues in my opinion. The wii is novelty and if doesn't get some decent games soon it is screwed. I already prefer my Demo of Gran Turismo HD (PS3) to anything I have played on my Wii. Initially I was sucked in by the novel game play but somewhere around the 60th hour of Zelda I was done with it. I only enjoy playing with the weather globe at this point. The key issue with the Wii is that most of the people that come over and play with it want to play Super Mario Brothers. That is not exactly the group of people that buy $60 games by the cart load.
So my feeling is that PS3, and 360 may lose the early rounds this year, but based upon the kind of games on the gamecube, the wii games so far, and my boredom with controller, Nintendo should be moderately successful but never enjoy numeric dominance of the market. PS3 has the best platform, and once it gets some more games under its belt will begin to dominate the game market for yet another generation. 360 will come in second, once again hampered by the kind of dumb design decisions Microsoft makes, and Nintendo will be the console that kids and parents like but never buy enough games to matter. But Nintendo likes its niche, so I can't say that it is a bad thing for them.