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Windows Genuine Advantage Gets More Lenient
Troglodyte writes in with word that Microsoft is revamping its Windows Genuine Advantage program so that it labels fewer users pirates. WGA now has a third category besides "genuine and "not genuine," called "not sure." Quoting: "[I]t's quite obvious what is going on here: Microsoft has added 'not sure' as a way of cutting down on the number of false positives associated with WGA. As many as one in five PCs were failing WGA checks, but this new setting should both reduce this and give Microsoft the chance to investigate further the kinds of things that are landing folks in the 'not sure' category."
Just do away with all this crap and stop bothering paying customers. Hackers will always find a way around whatever scheme MS or any other company devises. It's just a fact of life. If humans make it, humans can break it. Vista is already hacked and it will always continue. HDDVD has met the same fate.
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After this change takes place, can I please upgrade my CPU without having to grovel on the phone to some tech support bozo for a new key?
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Actually, the new categories are: 1. Guilty 2. Innocent 3. Guilty unless proven innocent
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Gotta love WGA. My computer tells me that I 'am a victim of software piracy'. If I'm the victim, then what does that make Microsoft?? Funny, I didn't realize I was being victimized. I guess it would sound funny if it popped up saying 'You may be benefiting from software piracy.'
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Yeah, so next time you have to reinstall it and they ask you "WHY ARE YOU RE-INSTALLING WINDOWS?", simply respond, "WHY, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW!?!?! THE THOUGHT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME UNTIL JUST NOW TO INSTALL ANYTHING ELSE!" and then hang up. Re-activate it if you must! :)
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...because in those days 1 copy of windows would supply dozens of people (family, friends, their family, etc). I'm sure it was an even bigger problem for schools and businesses. Now, I'm sure some of you believe that all software should be free or open source, however, I can also see MS's view of wanting to actually get money for their OS. I don't believe WGA is necessarily the best way of doing this, but MS will never go back to "free copies for everyone win98" days.
In the United States, it's pretty difficult to buy a pre-made PC without a license for Microsoft Windows. Yes, I've heard about the Dell "N" series, yes, I know you can build your own. But go to CompUSA, BestBuy, Costco, Dell direct, and these machines all have licenses for Windows.
So ask yourself this... in the current situation, why is microsoft investing so heavily in WGA? Surely, there are no more licenses to be sold.
But apparently there is. Microsoft has so narrowly defined the definition of a "legal copy of windows" that you really can't be sure.
If my Dell is smoked, and I replace the motherboard, apparently, I don't have a valid license? Or maybe I do. MS will let me know when they decide.
If I've changed too many things too many times in my PC (RAM, HD, Memory, etc), apparently, I am a software pirate. Go figure.
Going back to my original point. If MS is saying 1 of 5 PC's fail this test, they're saying 20% of all PC's don't have a license for Windows. If I assume that 2% of new PC's are sold in the U.S. without a Windows license, then what happened to those other 18% of licenses?
It doesn't add up.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
Seriously man, why are you bothering to use the "legitimate" version when you know that the pirated one is the superior product? Since you own a license, you have fulfilled whatever moral obligation you think you have to add a few more dollars to the pile of Microsoft billions. I wouldn't be calling India multiple times to uphold some sort of principle. Use a pirated version and be done with it. Alternatively, get Linux: Windows is downright hostile to DIY PC users like you; on the other hand you can install Linux as often as you want to.
I mean no hostility with this post so I'm sorry if it reads that way, but I'm just wondering why you're letting MS screw you again and again.
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Good, because ultimately it will be Microsoft's undoing. Small shops that were 100% Microsoft but were able to do so only by paying for what they cord afford and pirating what they couldn't will now be forced to dump Microsoft or stick with older versions of Microsoft software because the new versions are so locked down they can no longer engage in the casual copying they used to engage in to upgrade those PC's that they otherwise couldn't afford to upgrade. They'll then focus on finding less expensive or free alternatives that can integrate with the existing Microsoft software that they are running. Standards suddenly become important to these shops and they are now open to and aware of alternatives they were not open to or aware of before. Suddenly paying the Microsoft tax seems more and more ridiculous.
"Every single time I have needed a new code I've called up the number that appears on the screen, told them that the motherboard failed and I replaced it, and then they gave me a new code."
The very fact that you need to call to prove your innocent of piracy should be very insulting to you.
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I had the exact same situation, with Windows not accepting the product key on the bottom of my ThinkPad during activation after I wiped the hard drive clean... maybe there's something going on there? Anyways, I called them up, failed the automated service, and automatically got switched to a human. She gave me some sort of alternate code, waited until it finished rebooting, and that was that. Personally, I think that Microsoft has an average percentage of bad reps; it's just that since they have so many more customers, and that people tend to report bad (and not good) service that it seems like MS CSRs are so much worse.