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Canada Rejects Anti-Terror Laws

Coryoth writes "The Canadian parliament has voted against renewing anti-terror laws that had been introduced after September 11, 2001. The rejected laws included provisions to hold terror suspects indefinitely, and to compel witnesses to testify, and were in some sense Canada's version fo the Patriot Act. The laws were voted down in the face of claims from the minority Conservative government that the Liberal Party was soft on terror, and despite the fact that Canada has faced active terrorist cells in their own country. The anti-terror laws have never been used, and it was viewed that they are neither relevant, nor needed, in dealing with terrorist plots. Hopefully more countries will come to the same conclusion."

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  1. Oh No! The Maple Syrup Supply is unsafe! by R2.0 · · Score: 0, Troll

    I mean, really - is anything in Canada a true target? My understanding that the "cells" in Canada were in place for attacks on targets in the US.

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  2. Re:Oh No! The Maple Syrup Supply is unsafe! by R2.0 · · Score: 0, Troll

    In that case, are the terrorists stupid? I thought the US was the Great Satan, with Great Britain as our sniveling lackey and Israel as the evil demon sitting on our shoulder. Guess they didn't get the memo (or are REALLY bad with maps).

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    "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
  3. Good to know by Malakusen · · Score: 0, Troll

    That there is still one free country in North America.

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  4. No Hope At All by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 0, Troll
    Hopefully more countries will come to the same conclusion.

    I don't hope for that at all. Anyone who feels this way doesn't understand the terrorist mindset. They're not here to live and let live a good life. They're here to die for Allah's greatness and get the fast pass into Paradise. You can't talk with them. You can't reason with them. You either convert -- or die. They even intentionally target and kill others of their own faith in this struggle. Under these circumstances, conventional ideas of freedoms are just weaknesses to be exploited. This is a War, and we either fight it as such, or lose!

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  5. In other words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    A politically impotent and irrelevant country decides to remain impotent and irrelevant.

  6. Re:Think of the children (of the terrorists) by InsaneProcessor · · Score: 0, Troll

    Time to shut down the borders and don't let anyone into the US until they are screened.

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  7. Re:Wow policies that dont work get revoked. by jusDfaqs · · Score: 1, Troll

    http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ss f?/base/news/117232538430570.xml&coll=2
    The court called this a fundamental violation of their human rights.
    "The overarching principle of fundamental justice that applies here is this: Before the state can detain people for significant periods of time, it must accord them a fair judicial process," Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin wrote in a ruling for all nine justices.
    "The secrecy required by the scheme denies the person named in a certificate the opportunity to know the case put against him or her, and hence to challenge the government's case," she said.
    wtf?
    Going out on a limb here but,

    If the laws were never used, then the case would not have reached the justices to be ruled upon in the first place. In this case the five Muslim men held without being allowed the right to mount a defense to the charges, that doesn't work for me. I have the right to be counted as innocent until you prove, in a court of law no less, the fact "I" did willing and with malice violate the law in question. No matter what evidence you have, video, ploaroid, signed confession, I nor YOU are guilty until proven so.

    Yea I stand behind the description, "DON'T WORK".
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  8. Re:Wow policies that dont work get revoked. by Shads · · Score: 1, Troll

    The policies in the US are more detrimental to the citizens than what they may or may not prevent.

    The fact is... since the laws enactment dozen of times people have demonstrated time and time again how they're completely non-effective.

    Bravo for Canada... they're becoming like the us... only with considerably more sanity.

    Boston is a good example of exactly what is wrong with the US... blowing up a lite brite... blowing up a traffic counter... etc. The people running the country are running amok and getting out of hand.

    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin, An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania.

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  9. Silly. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 0, Troll
    I don't hope for that at all. Anyone who feels this way doesn't understand the terrorist mindset. They're not here to live and let live a good life. They're here to die for Allah's greatness and get the fast pass into Paradise. You can't talk with them. You can't reason with them. You either convert -- or die.

    Four words: Turn OFF your television!!

    The U.S. bombed it's own city using chump scape-goats. There are more holes in the official story than can be counted. There is plenty of evidence of fishy business all pointing to shadow government involvement. There's plenty of evidence of this for anybody who bothers to look.

    The latest piece of evidence to surface is footage leaked wherein. . .

    Immediately on the heels of the BBC footage where the presenter talks about the collapse of WTC7 20 minutes before the actual event, footage from CNN from the same day shows the presenter stating that WTC7 "has collapsed or is collapsing" one hour before the event and with the apparently fire-free building standing proudly behind him.

    The question: Who was feeding these new anchors this information. Clearly, someone in power had foreknowledge of the demolition of WTC7.

    WTC7 housed the records from the Enron case along with a ton of other documents which could have incriminated numerous other wealthy people. There are a lot of reasons some people wanted to demolish WTC7, and using 9-11 as an excuse fit nicely. The question is, how did they know when it was going to happen? The answer is, "Because they planned it themselves. Of Course."

    The lie of terrorists is just that. A lie.


    -FL

  10. Re:Unbiased news posts by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 0, Troll

    A UCLA/Stanford media study found Fox News to be the most centrist, so yeah, you would read Fox News.

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  11. Something I'd like to know by jhylkema · · Score: 0, Troll

    If the 9/11 hijackers had hit, say, Harlem and wiped out 3,000 of our "tinted brethren," rather than the WTC and wiped out 3,000 wealthy white stockbrokers, would we have been so quick to "avenge" their deaths?

    On another note, the airlines had been told for a number of years before 9/11 that they needed to armor the cabin doors. Their response? "No, that would cost too much money." Same thing with airport security people. Every civilized nation on Earth takes airport security seriously, hiring well-paid, well-trained, and often heavily armed agents. The U.S., on the other hand, hires grade-school dropouts of dubious immigration status to do the job. Why? How else are the airlines going to afford several billion a year in executive pay and perks? By cutting those things, they could put more money into security, but no.

  12. Re:Wow policies that dont work get revoked. by neomunk · · Score: 0, Troll

    OTTAWA - Only days after the Supreme Court struck down parts of the security-certificate regime as unconstitutional, Prime Minister Stephen Harper vowed to "sustain" the system used to detain non-citizens believed to pose a national-security threat. Awww, isn't that cute, he thinks he's Bush.

    I have a feeling Canadians won't take the same 'I'm the decider' bullshit a large chunk of my fellow Americans seem to think is how things get done.

    I cannot think of one 'decision' that that man has made that worked out good for U.S. citizens, let alone other peoples of the world.

    Don't let it happen to you Canada, I love your country, especially from the ages of 19 to 21, I really REALLY loved Canada. 30 minute drive, 20 minute border crossing, off to the bar!