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Canadian Gov't Grants Olympics Ownership of Winter

An anonymous reader writes "Michael Geist reports that the Canadian government has introduced new legislation that grants Vancouver Olympic organizers broad powers to police the use of any commercial use of the words associated with the Olympics. These incredibly include 'winter, Vancouver, and games.' As Geist notes, the government 'has no time to deal with spam, spyware, privacy, or net neutrality, but commits to legislation on behalf of the organizers of a sporting event?'"

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  1. The Devil's Deal by dj245 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is likely part of agreements made in secret host city dealings with the Olympic committees. It seems to happen in all other host cities. Next up is the restriction of references to non-sponsored products and services. Sure, your rights have been stricken... but at least you can enjoy a nice cold Coca Cola while you watch the sporting events on the CBC.

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    1. Re:The Devil's Deal by legirons · · Score: 4, Informative

      "This is likely part of agreements made in secret host city dealings with the Olympic committees. It seems to happen in all other host cities"

      Or in whole countries. Here's the UK version, from 1995:

      http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/Ukpga_1995003 2_en_2.htm#mdiv2

      More recently when London decided to host an olympics, they also felt that this piece of legislation was necessary:

      http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/20060012.htm

  2. Orwell was right. by Caspian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The masses really ARE that stupid.

    In any sane world, people restricting the use of the words "games", "Vancouver" and "winter" would prompt an immediate response from the masses. People would be calling and writing into Ottawa to complain.

    In this world, people do nothing, and only us geeks get up in arms.

    Consider what's been happening lately. It's been demonstrated that companies can and will be granted exclusive patent rights on obvious things, that other companies can and will be granted rights to parts of the human genome, and now that the very use of certain common and ancient words is being restricted.

    When will this shit stop?

    The governments of the western world talk a good talk about "freedom", but doesn't "freedom" mean the freedom to say "winter", the freedom to study human genetics, the freedom to write software without fear of patent suits?

    Are we really "free", or merely "freer"? (Freer than, say, the North Koreans...)

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    1. Re:Orwell was right. by StrongAxe · · Score: 4, Informative

      From TFA:
      2) In determining whether a person has acted contrary to subsection (1), the court shall take into account any evidence that the person has used, in any language,
      (a) a combination of expressions set out in Part 1 of Schedule 3; or
      (b) the combination of an expression set out in Part 1 of Schedule 3 with an expression set out in Part 2 of that Schedule.
      ...
      1. Games, 2010, Twenty-ten, 21st, Twenty-first, XXIst, 10th, Tenth, Xth, Medals
      2. Winter, Gold, Silver, Bronze, Sponsor, Vancouver, Whistler


      This means you can fully well say "Winter" or "Games" all you want - you just can't say "Winter Games", "2010 Games", "Games Sponsor", "Vancouver Games", etc.

      This does not seem as ridiculous as, say, trademarking the word "Winter", which is the FUD implied by the original article and many posters seem to imply.

  3. Attention Slashdot owners! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear Mr. Zonk and Cmdrtaco,

    t has come to my attention that you have made an unauthorized use of the copyrighted words "WINTER", "VANCOUVER" and "OLYMPICS" (the "Work") in the preparation of a Slashdot article entitled "CANADIAN GOV'T GRANTS OLYMPICS OWNERSHIP OF WINTER" (the "Article"). I have reserved all rights in the Work, granted my the Canadian Government. Your work entitled "CANADIAN GOV'T GRANTS OLYMPICS OWNERSHIP OF WINTER" is essentially identical to the Work and clearly used the Work as its basis.

    As you neither asked for nor received permission to use the Work as the basis for the Article nor to make or distribute copies, including electronic copies, of same, I believe you have willfully infringed my rights under 17 U.S.C. Section 101 et seq. and could be liable for statutory damages as high as $150,000 as set forth in Section 504(c)(2) therein.

    I demand that you immediately cease the use and distribution of all infringing works derived from the Work, and all copies, including electronic copies, of same, that you deliver to me, if applicable, all unused, undistributed copies of same, or destroy such copies immediately and that you desist from this or any other infringement of my rights in the future. If I have not received an affirmative response from you by [date give them about 2 weeks] indicating that you have fully complied with these requirements, I shall take further action against you.

    Very truly yours,

    The Krazy Kanuck Kommitee

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  4. Good going! by Excelcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, "Winter" is not being given away, just the right to use the word in certain advertising contexts that could be confused with the winter games. Every Olympic games there are vulture companies that tie themselves in advertising knots to appear to be official supporters without actually being. They use phrases like "Official supporter of Winter sports". This always burns my bacon that they get away with it. If you want to cash in on the Olympics, then support them and get the rights. Otherwise, get lost.

    The courts have better things do deal with than tie themselves in knots over this. I can't see this really being applied except in blatant cases, and overall I think it's a good thing. Another thing I can't see is why this is being painted so negatively.

    1. Re:Good going! by Excelcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

      First of all, the London you speak of is in the UK, not Canada, so you can consult your own government on what sort of laws you want to have over there.

      Secondly, reading the text of the bill, I don't see that even being a prohibited use. The stated reasoning of the bill is to act as "protection against certain misleading business associations". The wording instructs the courts to interpret whether the use of the protected words is for the purpose of misleading the consumer into believing that you are a sponsor of the games when you are not. Your case does not fall into that category, and would thus not be prohibited by the act. Thirdly, even if it was, if you owned a small guest house in Vancouver, you would not need to advertise "Thinking of coming to the Olympics in 2010" - you would more than likely be able to rent out the house in that time period. I don't even see a need to mention the event in that context - those shoping around will know.

      The act is written to narrowly interpret a broad spectrum of words. By that I mean, the courts are allowed to consider many words that could potentially be infringing, but those words must be used in a misleading manor in order to be prohibited.

      All in all, it's one of the better balancing acts my government has done in order to prohibit ambush marketing, and I aplaud it. So, your argument doesn't really hold water with me.

  5. Re:Cease and desist! by Bob54321 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you don't stop, I'll complain to the RIAA/MPAA/God/Canada, and you'll be sorry then!

    I'll be fine, I don't believe in those entities anyway.
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  6. Challenge! by Excelcia · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The stupid masses you refer to must be the masses that read these articles, fall for the sensational headlines, and respond as you just have. The fact that no one is actually reading the the bill in question before leaping to wild conclusions about government censorship is rather annoying. The whole point of the bill is to stop ambush marketing with respect to the games. That is, to stop people from trying to look like they are official olympic supporters without actually being.

    I submit that the bill is very excellently worded, and I challenge you (or anyone else) to read the bill and come up with an example where the bill would unfairly restrict your freedom. By that, I mean restrict you from doing anything except ambush marketing. Anyone that needs to use any of the "restricted" words in order to promote legitimate business can do so:

    (4) Nothing in subsection (1) or (2) prevents
    (g) the use by a person of their address, the geographical name of their place of business, an accurate indication of the origin of their wares or services, or an accurate description of their wares or services to the extent that the description is necessary to explain those wares or services to the public
    So, as you can see, that little exception covers pretty much any legitimate use you might have. Describe how exactly this is Orwellian, please.
  7. As usual, no one ever bothered to read the bill... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know my law degree is in the mail, but even a layman can understand the following:

    (1) No person shall, during any period prescribed by regulation, in association with a trade-mark or other mark, promote or otherwise direct public attention to their business, wares or services in a manner that misleads or is likely to mislead the public into believing that
    (a) the person's business, wares or services are approved, authorized or endorsed by an organizing committee, the COC or the CPC; or
    (b) a business association exists between the person's business and the Olympic Games, the Paralympic Games, an organizing committee, the COC or the CPC.


    The law essentially says you cannot mislead the public with advertising or promotions that suggest your business is endorsed by or connected to the Olympic Games and/or one of the organizing committess.

    The law goes on to say:

    (2) In determining whether a person has acted contrary to subsection (1), the court shall take into account any evidence that the person has used, in any language,
    (a) a combination of expressions set out in Part 1 of Schedule 3; or
    (b) the combination of an expression set out in Part 1 of Schedule 3 with an expression set out in Part 2 of that Schedule.


    So, the law does not prohibit a business from using the words "Vancouver", "winter" or "Whistler", only when they are used in combination with the following words and likely to cause to confusion with the Olympic trademarks and/or suggest an endorsement or relationship that does not exist:

    1. Games
    2. 2010
    3. Twenty-ten
    4. 21st
    5. Twenty-first
    6. XXIst
    7. 10th
    8. Tenth
    9. Xth
    10. Medals

    That's pretty much it. Draconian? Not really. Overly broad? Perhaps.

  8. Re:From the bill... by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The bill itself still does reflect the true spirit of the modern Olympics, a cynical exercise in corporate marketing.

    Drugs, civil courts, politics, wildly inflated egos, corruption, endless corporate marketing, at least they could introduce some real blood sports to really reflect the true values of the modern Olympics, bring on the gladiators and the lions.

    I'm bored with the same old same old, and no I don't see the achievement in a person willing to run around in circles day after day after day.

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  9. Re:As usual, no one ever bothered to read the bill by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The law essentially says you cannot mislead the public with advertising or promotions that suggest your business is endorsed by or connected to the Olympic Games and/or one of the organizing committess. Correct. But why the hell do they need to make a special case law for the Olympics. Wouldn't it make sense to make a general law that prohibits false claims of sponsorhip or affiliation? I smell a rat here.

    That's pretty much it. Draconian? Not really. Overly broad? Perhaps. Try overly narrow. The law should prohibit false claims of affiliation in general, and not make a special case out of the Olympics. Do not mention any words, but mention intent.


    If a business falsely claims to have sponsored an event or organization, give that organization the right to sue said business.


    If a business claims to have sponsored a non-existing organization, give consumer associations the right to sue.

  10. Repeat of 1988 by lightning+detector · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a Canadian, I remember we went through this sort of thing the last time the Olympic Winter Games were held in Canada, in Calgary, in the year 1988.

    There was a whack-a-mole attack on anything "infringing". God forbid you should use the word "Olympic". If an eatery in Toronto's Greek immigrant district was called "Olympic Restaurant", demands would be made to change the name.

    This campaign reached its peak (IIRC) when demands were made that Olympic Airways, the national airline of Greece, stop flying to Canada under that name. The issue got some embarrassing press coverage. As a result, "Olympic Airways" was allowed to continue, on condition that it provide some free trips to the organization running the games.

    It seems to me that the Olympic Games, like other businesses, is entitled to reasonable copyright and trademark protection. However, I am uneasy about special laws and draconian enforcement for the purpose.