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Wind, Solar & Biofuels to Power Remote Cell Towers

tcd004 writes "How do you set up a cell network when there's no power grid? Namibia, India and Nigeria are building towers using localized power sources to provide critical cell phone access to the most remote parts of their countries. Wind/solar hybrids, and biofuel power plants will power the radio towers, peripheral communications, and even the protective fencing around the installations."

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  1. developing nations?! by cashman73 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Heck! They need to put a couple of these suckers in Arizona (not Phoenix),... ;-)

    I-17 has horrible cell coverage in places, and could really use something better. The only cell phones that even work at the Grand Canyon are Verizon phones (although perhaps Verizon likes it that way).

    1. Re:developing nations?! by Vancorps · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's funny, when I went to the Grand Canyon my sister's verizon cell phone didn't work while my Sprint phone did. You're right though, reception is spotty on the 17. I drove cross country and the 17 was the only place I ever lost reception.

      The thing I still can fathom is why AZ doesn't use more solar power than it does with more 300 days of sun a year this is one of the best places on earth to try it out for real.

  2. Considering that electricity transmission losses.. by blind+biker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    are staggering, this is an excellent idea. Let's hope the implementation is on par.

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  3. I think I prefer the term Ambient Energy by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    To "localized power sources" But of course, slashdot standards require that you spend more than 20 seconds on a single thought, so I added this sentence.

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  4. Re:Considering that electricity transmission losse by ThosLives · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Indeed. I've often wondered how many resources are used just to push usable energy around, and if there is in fact a benefit to having massively distributed power generation rather than massive power plants.

    Sure, this would have to be a different paradigm then shipping fuels to a single location, but you'd think that everyone could have a solar array and windmill on their property - except for goofy things like zoning and 'beautification' rules :(

    Heck, using that method you don't even lose all the power industry jobs, because they can then be on-site maintenance and installation engineers for the millions of new "miniature" plants.

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  5. Protective Fencing? by Radon360 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So they're installing electric fences around these sites to prevent theft and looting of equipment/metals? Cute.

    Now all someone has to do to compromise that is to booger up the solar panel (Water balloon slingshot with mudpies), or throw a rope into the windmill (or drop it in with a kite) and wait several days.

  6. Re:powered fencing? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why does the fencing need electricity?


    Thievery and yes, probably because of elephants (think scratching posts).

    With the amount of metal that would be in these things and considering the poverty of the countries mentioned, you can be absolutely sure that if the fencing was not electrified, the equipment would be stolen the same night it was installed and sold for scrap metal.

    Let's put it this way, even in the stable country of Iraq, entire towers which hold up electrical wires are toppled and sold for scrap. Think what would happen to this equipment if it were placed next to a roadway in one of the three countries and didn't have any form of protection.

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  7. Just in time! by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Funny

    My friend, the prince of nigeria, is going to be calling me about the 100 million dollars he's going to give me for helping him out!

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  8. Re:Considering that electricity transmission losse by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Indeed. I've often wondered how many resources are used just to push usable energy around, and if there is in fact a benefit to having massively distributed power generation rather than massive power plants.

    A pity you didn't just Look it up. Then you'd have known it was around 7% in the US and UK. Which yes, is fucking huge. In 2003 the total consumption of electricity in the US was 3,656 billion kilowatt-hours. you do the math...

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  9. Can't be done - and you already know why. by mmell · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Consider - in Namibia and Nigeria, I doubt there is much of a paying customer base to pay for installation and upkeep of such facilities; and I'll wager that in India, the towers under discussions are meant to serve areas of the country with little of interest to commercial providers. They need a system of towers which they can install, configure and walk away from. Doubtless the governments of the respective countries are directly involved in the planning, implementation and financing of the towers in question; hence their drive to have an efficient, self-sufficient implementation.

    Here in the US, if somebody wants something, they'd better damned well be ready to pay for it. Here, "you gets what you pays for!". Now, if Cellulite-1 (or whoever) decides to put a tower up, you can bet it'll be the classic sort which requires power and periodic maintainance to remain operational; expenses which will not only be passed along to the consumer, but which will be passed along at a profit! If the cell towers generate their own electricity, there's that much less expense to make a profit on.

    Yes, it seems counterintuitive, but why develop a technology which costs less to implement if that technology is going to cut into your bottom line? Current, technologies with a lower TCO provide less profit than conventional technologies.

  10. Also by skuzz03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those bits of Utah where you drive a hundred miles just north of the AZ/UT border and there's no power, lights, phone, electricity, anything for seemingly forever. The only way to call for help out there is with a satphone.

    Talk about no bars in no places!

    They have enough sunlight out there in the deserts it should be relatively easy to implement a solar-only with generator-backup power system to keep the sites up, then use microwave point-to-point links between sites and dual uplinks on either side of the network for redundancy in the event sites in the middle fail.

    Providers won't bother doing that though, they have no population out there to cover, and why would they care about public safety? They're too busy wasting resources deploying mobile TV and camera phones and video phones and all their other useless nonsense.

  11. Re:Considering that electricity transmission losse by mdsolar · · Score: 2, Informative

    Losses are about 7% on the grid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_power_transm ission#Losses. While this is significant it is not huge. The real problem is stringing out lines to remote locations which is expensive.
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  12. Interesting by edwardpickman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    how often third world countries embrace alternative sources where as we're told they are too expensive in the first world. There's a good reason many use alternative sources in these countries, the lack of an infastructure for delivering power.

    1. Re:Interesting by marcog123 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The main reason is the rapid increase in uptake of cell phones in developing regions. The cellular providers are ripping off the people in these countries simply because they can. And the people are so hooked on cell phones that they fall for the trap. It's like the new in thing. You'd be surprised.

      I'm from South Africa and one of our lecturers who researches HCI went to Zambia for two months to study the use of cell phones. He said you'd be amazed at where you'd find cell towers - in the middle of the middle of nowhere (repetition intended).

      My point is that these alternatives are happening because there's a market for them. The problem is that they're rushing in so quickly that the costs are high, which means the people end up forking out all they have just to use their phones. And they do just that! Someone needs to come up with a more effective model tuned to their usage requirements. And consider costs as the main thing!!

  13. I think I see a flaw by jeffeb3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How do the locals power their new cell phones exactly?