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High Schooler Is Awarded $100,000 For Research

wired_LAIN writes "A teenager from Oklahoma was awarded $100,000 in the Intel Science Talent Search competition for building an inexpensive and accurate spectrograph that can identify the specific characteristics of different kinds of molecules. While normal spectrographs can cost between $20,000 and $100,000 to build, her spectrograph cost less than $500. The 40 finalists' projects were judged by a panel of 12 scientists, all well established in their respective fields. Among the judges were Vera Rubin, who proved Dark Matter, and Andrew Yeager, one of the pioneers of stem cell research."

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  1. dark matter by Hemogoblin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Among the judges were Vera Rubin , who proved Dark Matter
    Nitpick: That should probably read "provided evidence for the existence dark matter."
  2. "Awarded" or "Paid"? by timeOday · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does she keep the rights to her invention, or does somebody else get ownership of them? This sounds like a potentially valuable invention.

    1. Re:"Awarded" or "Paid"? by QuasiEvil · · Score: 5, Informative

      As a former Westinghouse STS finalist (back in 1995, before it became the Intel STS), you get to keep all rights. The cash is just the prize for being top in the nation. It literally is just prize money, or at least was back then. I wouldn't think things have changed that much, as some of the research I was competing with had applications far more valuable than $100k. There's also a lot of other perks - academic offers and scholarships to all sorts of interesting institutions, trips, resume padding, etc.

  3. Not bad by L.+VeGas · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's okay, I guess. Personally, I really liked the totally rad volcano that used baking soda and vinegar to actually erupt!

  4. Dollar dollars by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The summary is incorrect. The actual cost, as stated in the article, is less than $1000, which is a bit more than $500.
    Actually, the summery said, "her spectrograph cost less than $500 dollars". Have you any idea how much a 500-dollar dollar is worth? Her spectrograph costs less than at least two of them!
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  5. Other winners by jotok · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the Intel Science Talent Search website:

    Second Place: John Pardon, 17, of Chapel Hill, N.C., solved a classical open problem in differential geometry
    Third Place: Dmitry Vaintrob, 18, of Eugene, Ore., proved that loop homology and Hochschild cohomology coincide for an important class of spaces
    Fourth Place: Catherine Schlingheyde, 17, of Oyster Bay, N.Y., for her research on microRNA repression
    Fifth Place: Rebecca Kaufman, 17, of Croton-on-Hudson, N.Y., for her study of the effects of male hormones in a model of schizophrenia
    Sixth Place: Gregory Brockman, 18, of Thompson, N.D., for his mathematics project that provided a thorough analysis of Ducci sequences
    Seventh Place: Megan Blewett, 17, of Madison, N.J., for her analysis of a protein that may be implicated in multiple sclerosis and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis
    Eighth Place: Daniel Handlin, 18, of Lincroft, N.J., for developing an accurate, low-cost method of determining the position of geo-stationary Earth-orbit (GEO) satellites
    Ninth Place: Meredith MacGregor, 18, of Boulder, Colo., for her research on the fluid dynamics of the "Brazil Nut Effect"
    Tenth Place: Emma Call, 18, of Baltimore, Md., for the fabrication of 3-D microcubes
    I'm amazed at what these kids were able to accomplish. How much support did they have? What schools do they attend? How much money were they granted to accomplish their research?

    In any case, I have two thoughts on this:
    One, good teachers and money can't make stupid kids smart, but they sure as hell can enable really smart kids to shine. I wonder how this ties in with Bill Gates' recent announcements concerning the state of science and math education in American schools.

    Two, I notice a complete lack of representation by the "soft" sciences. Is it because the people writing the grants share the same disdain for disciplines that lack explanatory power as everyone else, or is it because it's easier to set up a biology program than a sociology program? I suspect a little of both--you probably need far more social context than an 18-year-old will have to pursue studies of voter demographics (not to mention the data acq is probably beyond their capabilities).

    But some of that context used to be handled by education as well--you had to read the classics, you had to study some philosophy, you had to know history. My aero engineer friend has really never done any of that, so he's an engineer who doesn't know what "empiricism" means. Is this also a failing by our educational system? Isn't such education necessary to be a good researcher?
    1. Re:Other winners by CommandNotFound · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...Anyone know if there's a "Loop Homology and Hochschild Cohomology for Dummies" out yet?

      Holy cow, these kids are off the charts! And I was impressed with the GW-BASIC database I wrote in high school. It looks like something Homer Simpson built compared to that...

    2. Re:Other winners by jcgf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But some of that context used to be handled by education as well--you had to read the classics, you had to study some philosophy, you had to know history. My aero engineer friend has really never done any of that, so he's an engineer who doesn't know what "empiricism" means. Is this also a failing by our educational system? Isn't such education necessary to be a good researcher?

      It goes the other way too. Ask a philosophy student to explain lift and drag and see how far you get.

    3. Re:Other winners by i_should_be_working · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So 6 out of the top 10 are females. What the hell happens after high school? Maybe things are just getting better with this generation.

      Unrelated. Usually with some high level math theory title I understand the individual words by themselves, but not all together. But that 3rd place title. Holy crap. 3 words I've never even heard of.

  6. Overview of her Project by Somegeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    From her biography on sciserv.org:

    "Her Littrow spectrograph splits light, like a prism, and uses a camera to record the resulting Raman spectra - a specific vibrational fingerprint of the molecular compound being investigated. Using a laser as her light source, Mary tested several household objects and solvents and compared her results to published wave numbers. Despite the shortcomings of the inexpensive laser, she found she could make relatively accurate wavelength measurements with her homemade device."

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  7. Re:Okay can we see the project? by quanminoan · · Score: 5, Informative

    This link provides a little more information.

  8. Re:This nation... by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can practically hear the shipping containers being filled in Beijing with $199 combination laser pointer/spectrographs as we speak!

    I have to remember to pick one up at Costco when we go next week.

  9. Re:Accurate? Is it Calibrated? by 644bd346996 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    She measured the spectra of known household substances and got numbers that fit with published data. That is a decent basis for calling it accurate, especially when you consider that her design can probably be improved quite a bit without making it much more expensive. A mass-produced, quality-controlled spectrograph based off her design could revolutionize the way such devices are used, because they are so cheap.

  10. fascinating gender differences in the prizes by retrosurf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All the boys worked on mathematics based tasks, and
    all the girls were working on physical sciences, or
    at least more applied problems.

    Well, there's that one well rounded kid that applied
    mathematics to the triangulation of geosynchronous
    satellites, but the other guys were heavy math geeks.

  11. I thought it said "Spirograph" by cheeto · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... and thought to myself, "$500 would build you one hell of a Spirograph, but your older brother is still just going to throw the gears at you like a ninja star."

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  12. Re:After Watching Idiocracy.... by adavies42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're kidding, right? Some people are smarter than others. It might not fit your notion of "fairness", but it's the way the world is. Cope.

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  13. Re:I bet! by rifter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I bet! Mom & Dad never helped at all!

    I honestly don't see why this is flamebait. It could have been said in a better way, especially since it seems to have been misunderstood. It is important for people to understand that parents and social/economic status matter when it comes to academic and scientific achievement, especially in the type of school system we have. That's not to say that individual effort is not needed in the more positive cases or that it cannot overcome the negative cases. But it is true that the more tools you have in life and the better and more stable your learning environment is the easier it is to achieve something. It does not mean that this person's achievement was any less spectacular, just as it is still awesome that John Nash was doing Calculus at age 7 even though the fact his parents were academics who encouraged their son and exposed him to everything he seemed able to handle or have an interest in when he showed interest.

    John Nash growing up in an abusive home where no textbooks were available and learning was frowned upon would have a tough row to hoe even as a genius that he was. He would probably be able to achieve a lot because of his drive and intellectual fortitude, but you never know. Not only would he have to overcome the negative aspects of his upbringing, he would not have some of the formative experiences that led him on the path he ended up on. He might not learn to read at an early age because neither his parents nor the public school would encourage reading at an early age or advancing in that skill. He also might not therefore have read _Men_of_Mathematics_ which was the book that most inspired him to become a mathemetician. Perhaps between a bad upbringing and the mental problems he had, he would have ended up in that negative feedback loop so many left behind children find themselves in, where the outside world (especially school, their parents, and other students) gives them a constant reinforcement of the idea that they are "no good" or substandard and will never achieve anything, and their own struggles, when they find the strength to struggle, seem to reinforce it as well and lend fodder to the fire until they either lapse into a kind of apathy toward achievement or take the further course of attempting to achieve something completely negative (addict, prostitute, thug, etc).

    Children need encouragement and guidance to grow properly and it is proven that the more successful children in school tend also to be those students whose parents are most involved in their education, and vice versa. Parents that don't have or take time for working with their kids or for whatever reason don't give the right kind of structure and experience for a healthy childhood will tend to have children with problems in school. This is what educators have been telling us, too. I think reform is necessary for the system, and I know parents are resistant to any suggestion that they could have anything to do with problems they have with their children, but consider the fact that this is the portion of the equation parents are most able to change.

    It is obvious to me that whereas this person was clearly gifted they also had parents who supported her endeavours. In fact she is quoted in TFA:

    Masterman said she has been interested in science "ever since I was little. I can't remember ever not being interested." She credits her parents with encouraging her.

    Poorly stated I will give you, but what the poster said was true and was probably not meant as flamebait. It does not seem like flamebait to me.