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Internet Radio In Danger of Extinction in United States

An anonymous reader passed us a link to a Forbes article discussing dire news for fans of Internet radio. Yesterday afternoon saw online broadcasters, everyone from giants like Clear Channel and National Public Radio to small-fry internet concerns, arguing their case before the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB). The CRB's March 2nd decision to increase the fees associated with online music broadcasting will have harsh repercussions for those who engage in the activity, the panel was told. "Under a previous arrangement, which expired at the end of 2005, broadcasters and online companies such as Yahoo Inc. and Time Warner Inc.'s AOL unit could pay royalties based on estimates of how many songs were played over a given period of time, or a 'tuning hour,' as opposed to counting every single song ... [They] also asked the judges to clarify a $500 annual fee per broadcasting channel, saying that with some online companies offering many thousands of listening options, counting each one as a separate channel could lead to huge fees for online broadcasters." There was also a previous provision for smaller companies that allowed them to pay less, something the March 2 decision did away with; in the view of the royalty holders, advertising more than pays for these fees, and they're ready for higher payments.

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  1. As the adage says, if you outlaw Internet Radio by vivaoporto · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you make hard for people that is willing to set up a legal Internet radio and make a profitable business of it, in the end, the only way to get internet music broadcast (and video, for all that matter) will be illegally, on P2P, FTP and whatnot.

    But, on a second thought, that is exactly what the Media Cartel want. They don't matter where you are getting it, as long as the only way to be legally exposed to new content is through their channels. They couldn't care less if you and a couple of technologically wealthy people are going around their blockage, but they will do everything on their power to prevent both the average people and the *artists* to get in touch with each other without them.

    This is not about giving people no options. It is about giving *artists* no option. People are attached to their favorite artists and will follow them wherever they go.

  2. Some useful links... by rly2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The DJ of my favorite internet radio stations, Radio Paradise, has a very informative blog concerning this issue.

    Also, if you're interested in taking action, check out Save Net Radio.

  3. Re:Well it had to happen sometime by codegen · · Score: 4, Informative

    You couldn't expect them to let people broadcast music for no fee forever


    If you had bothered to read the article, or the previous article two weeks ago when the decision was announced (I know, I know, this is slashdot), you would have found out that previously they paid royalties similar to that of airwave broadcasting based on tuning hours. The move to per song/per listener is a considerable change in the fee formula that will drive many smaller broadcasters out of business. Its interesting that if I own a bar with non-live music (juke box/radio) I pay per listening hour regardless of how many patrons are in the bar that particular night, but if it is the internet, I have to pay per ear.


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  4. Re:Well it had to happen sometime by tinkerghost · · Score: 4, Informative

    They were paying a fee. They actually could pay 1 of 2 fees, either a % of profit or a per-song fee. The dropping of the % profit fee structure is going to put most of the small e-radio stations out of business. The increase in the per-song fee is going to put most of the others out of business too.

  5. Re:Classic Radio by Klaruz · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, it does not apply to regular radio. In America, regular radio AND internet radio pay performance royalty fees to ASCAP/BMI based on a percentage of revenue formula. That fee goes to the songwriters.

    For Internet radio ONLY, they ALSO have to pay a 'reproduction' fee, since internet radio is SOOOOO much different than regular radio according to congress. This fee goes to... you guessed it, directly to the RIAA, not the songwriters or artists. That's the fee they raised to obscene levels and what is threatening to kill internet radio.

    Fair huh? No? Call your congressman.

  6. Re:And What About No Advertising NPR? by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 3, Informative

    There IS advertising on NPR. You know the little "bumper" at the end of each package that goes:

    Support for NPR comes from the following...

    There's usually some commission, retailer, foundation, company, etc whose business is essentially getting a "plug" and for which they're probably making a much larger donation than $120 per year. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I think that this ruling is a good idea, but in fairness, I can understand how they might be trying to lump NPR into the fold as well.

  7. Re:ditch corporate music by falcon5768 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not true, the RIAA is completely behind this. The fee that this new hike collects goes directly to the RIAA and not the performers which is what the fee's for terrestrial radio go to.

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  8. RIAA free radio? by Jaywalk · · Score: 4, Informative
    There is a lot of music out there which is not controlled by the RIAA. While it would mean skipping the "hottest new songs" (i.e., tuneless dreck) it would mean that the music could be streamed (or podcast) without any royalty payments at all. The 'casters could also make a side business selling their own music mixes with a percentage of sales going straight to the artists. And it direct competition to the RIAA hegemony.

    Anybody see a reason why this wouldn't work?

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  9. esp. if minimum payment by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 3, Informative

    I, of course, didn't read all (115 pages of) the copyright board's actual statement from this month, but it seems like the $500 minimum-per-stream doesn't depend on whether the station uses ASCAP music or free (e.g. cc-licensed) music

    "Radio Broadcasters propose that music-formatted stations pay a fee ranging from as little as $500 per annum for small stations in low revenue ranked markets to as much as $8,000 per annum for large stations in high revenue ranked markets"

    The term "Creative Commons" is not grep'd in the document so I assume it didn't come up.

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