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So You've Lost a $38 Billion File

smooth wombat writes "Imagine you're reformatting a hard drive so you can do a clean install but then realize that you have also reformatted the back up hard drive. No problem. You reach for your back up tapes only to find out that the information on the tapes is unreadable. Now imagine the information that is lost was worth $38 billion. This scenario is apparently what happened in July to the Alaska Department of Revenue. From the article: 'Nine months worth of information concerning the yearly payout from the Alaska Permanent Fund was gone: some 800,000 electronic images that had been painstakingly scanned into the system months earlier, the 2006 paper applications that people had either mailed in or filed over the counter, and supporting documentation such as birth certificates and proof of residence.' Using the 300 cardboard boxes containing all the information, staff worked overtime for several months to rescan everything at an additional cost of $200,000."

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  1. Time for... by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Time for... by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thanks for alleviating my ignorance.

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    2. Re:Time for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I once deleted a file worth $38 billion. I was afraid my boss was going to fire me, but he shook my hand and laughed "Fire you?!! We just invested $38 billion in your education! We can't fire you after that kind of investment." And true enough, I never deleted a file worth that much again.

    3. Re:Time for... by iamhassi · · Score: 2, Funny

      "they tried to recover and it cost them $71,800."

      they paid the neighbor kid $71,800 to run norton data recovery? That was a waste.

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    4. Re:Time for... by HTTP+Error+403+403.9 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you must go with the car analogy, it's more like losing your key and saying "zoinks! I just lost my $85,000 car key!"
      It's actually Velma's car and she said, "Jinkies! I'm locked out of the Mystery Machine!"
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  2. The Senator by jeevesbond · · Score: 3, Funny

    Senator Ted Stevens remarked that they should have sent it in an Internet, apparently tubes are much more reliable than tape.

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    1. Re:The Senator by Donniedarkness · · Score: 2, Funny

      They DID send it in an internet, but we were clogging up the tubes with "youtubes" and "myspaces" that it didn't reach them until AFTER they finished copying it!

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  3. I'll do it! by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Funny

    So the information is still available in 300 boxes and it would cost about $200,000 to scan and recreate the $38 billion file again?
    I'll do it for $1 billion.

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  4. maxtor? by ElephanTS · · Score: 4, Funny

    As their IT consultant I stand by my use of Maxtor drives.

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  5. Re:$38 billion? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The method for arriving at that figure was also tragically lost. A team of monkeys recreated the figure in 3 minutes with a number pad at a cost of $45.

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  6. Re:Tapes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hmm...this should translate to:

    Just curious...do most people still think differently then I do? Because I do something one way, so should everyone else. Did I mention I am also unable to empathize?

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  7. Re:And this is why... by imboboage0 · · Score: 3, Funny
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  8. I'd hate to be the tech support guy... by condour75 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And it's not in the recycle bin? Ok, let's not panic. Click start, go to find, choose files and folders...

  9. I lost 75 trillion dollars! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Funny
    I launched notepad and wrote 75 trillion dollars and saved the file. And, because I was feeling very extravagent, I deleted the file. I am rich. I can afford to lose 75 trillion dollars without batting and eyelid and am man enough to brag the info to the whole world.

    Come on guys, it took only 200,000$ to create the data. It probably had records of payments totalling 38 billion dollars. But what they lost was 200,000$ not 38 billion dollars.

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  10. Re:Something else worth mentioning.. by Detritus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Please report to your nearest Microsoft customer reeducation camp.

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  11. Re:Actual Cost?? by saigon_from_europe · · Score: 4, Funny

    1) Write "200 000 000 000 USD" on the paper.
    2) Type what's on the paper into a .txt file
    3) Save the file
    4) Delete the file
    5) Empty the recycle bin
    6) Recreate file by retyping data from the paper
    7) Post the story on the /. how big financial disaster you've made, and how you've saved your ass

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  12. Re:And this is why... by evilviper · · Score: 4, Funny

    And this is why... ...print will never be dead.

    Right, because:

    Nobody has ever thrown away papers that were actually needed...

    Paper is an inexpensive and compact way to store terabytes of information...

    Paper is trivially easy to instantly duplicate on a large scale...

    Paper is trivially easy to haul off-site and store...

    People constantly generate diffs between the most recently archived paper copy, and all work they have done every day since. They don't just make undocumented changes, willy-nilly, requiring just as much effort to backup daily changes as it is to backup full copies of everything...

    No question, paper is superior. The data retention problems we always hear about are in every way caused by digital storage methods, and have nothing to do with the policies and people running the organizations...

    (No I will not pay for any damaged caused by this post overloading your sarcasm meter.)
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  13. Re:Redo the work? by Solder+Fumes · · Score: 3, Funny

    No kidding...if "Mary" from Dell "canna fiss eet, you drag to reee-cyc bin yesss? reboot? all gone, have nice day now" then who are we mortals to argue?

  14. Always remember, Backup systems by fearadhach · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are NOT restore systems. Restoration is a totally different operation, and not one that the backup solutions people invest a lot of effort in. You doubt me? Try to restore an Exchange Server from tapes (Backupexec) after losing and re-building the server.

  15. Vista by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    They may of been trying to do a clean install of vista and it some how took out the back up disk and the same time as the main disk. And they where using dell systems.

  16. Re:Tapes? by MrNougat · · Score: 1, Funny

    And remember there is a difference between making 'backups' (store my important files somewhere else so I can get them in case of a system failure) and preparing for 'disaster recovery' (store everyones files somewhere else so we can rebuild the entire infrastructure in case the building burns to the ground).


    You've got that wrong. Disaster Recovery is recovery from system failure, whether it be caused by natural disaster, malicious acts, or hardware failure. "Store my important files somewhere else so I can get them in case of a system fail^H^H^H^H I do something stupid and lose them because of my own mistake" is Idiot Recovery.

    No, I will not call back a tape from two weeks ago because you made a mistake and saved over your Excel spreadsheet the wrong way, or because you managed to delete something because you're sloppy with a mouse.

    You, user, are in control of your own data. You are responsible for its appropriate handling and content. I am responsible for only its appropriate storage, and not its content.
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  17. Re:Tapes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    He may of been you sing a speech to text program you in sensitive clod

  18. Perspective by rlp · · Score: 4, Funny

    $38 billion is a lot of money. To put that in perspective, for $38 billion, Alaska could build over fifty bridges to nowhere.

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  19. Re:$38 Billion is a big incentive for fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear deeply respected and trusted Sir,

      I trust by the grace of almighty god you are in good health this fine and beautiful day. I was a data entry clerk for the Alaska Department of Revenue, Prior to being fired, I secured access to a hidden fund worth $38,000,000,000 (THIRTY-EIGHT BILLION DOLLARS).

      If I ever tried to utilise this fund in my name, the funds would risk being confiscated by the government, so I would like you assistance to find a trustworth foreign assistant who can invest these funds.

      This proposal is 100% risk free, and I can offer you a 10% fee for your help.....