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NFL Caught Abusing the DMCA

Implied Oral Consent writes "You know how the NFL puts up those notices before every game saying 'This telecast is copyrighted by the NFL for the private use of our audience, and any other use of this telecast or of any pictures, descriptions or accounts of the game without the NFL's consent is prohibited?' Well, Ars Technica is reporting that Wendy Seltzer thought that that was over-reaching and posted a video of the notice on YouTube. Predictably, the NFL filed a DMCA Take Down notice on the clip. But Ms. Seltzer knows her rights, so she filed a DMCA Counter Notice. This is when the NFL violated the DMCA, by filing another Take Down notice instead of taking the issue to court — their only legitimate option, according to the DMCA. Unfortunately for the NFL, Ms. Seltzer is a law professor, an EFF lawyer, and the founder of Chilling Effects. Oops!"

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  1. Just ridiculous notice to begin with by spoco2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm an Aussie, so I've never watched an NFL game such as this, but that notice "This telecast is copyrighted by the NFL for the private use of our audience, and any other use of this telecast or of any pictures, descriptions or accounts of the game without the NFL's consent is prohibited" is just plain crazy (hence her initial video posting I suppose)... I mean trying to stop people DESCRIBING an event... dear god who the F*ck do they think they are? What are you supposed to do when you're talking to your mates about the big game?

    "Hey Bob, see the big game last night?"
    "Yeah Gary, I sure did... it was awesome!"
    "What did you think about the touchdown in the..."
    "SSSSSSHHHHH! What are you doing Gary? You can't discuss the game without prior consent... just hang on a sec."

    Ring ring... ring ring...
    *Welcome to the NFL DMCA Hotline, your call is important to us, you are currently number 13445 in the queue*.

    "Oh F*ck that, let's talk about world political events"

  2. Re:Pedantic by denttford · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Pedantic?

    You know what, in one day this woman has done more for my rights and the rights of others than you will in your life. If holding those who influence the law to actually abiding by them is pedantic, then I declare pedantry heroic.

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  3. Re:Good thing about Civil Society by Darby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the rich democracies, businesses generally don't bother with overt criminality, because they'd just have to give up the money anyway.

    Wow. What color is the air on your planet?
    Businesses quite often go straight for overt criminality because they know that they can make a billion and pay a million dollar fine.
    Heck, just look at Microsoft for the canonical example of that.

    It's cute to be cynical

    No, cynicism about that and realism coincide completely. There isn't anything "cute" about it.

    But the fact that she will probably win this case points to a deep, significant difference between "the west" and the rest.

    You misspelled "might".
    It's only even "might" because what the NFL is trying to pull is *so* blatantly illegal. And it's only that because the DMCA is so new. This kind of shit is the purpose of that and similar recent laws such as the traitor act (Orwellianly named "Patriot") which, surprise surprise is being abused exactly as predicted by every sane person. A real no brainer since that was its purpose.

    Perhaps you should pull your head out of whatever orifice you've stuffed it in and look around.
    Maybe if you did you'd notice that the differences you're feebly attempting to illustrate are getting smaller and smaller all the time.
    The fact that this is even happening at all proves that point.

  4. Astroturfers by Flying+pig · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why do I think a lot of the posts on this thread are astroturfers for the NFL? Because it is unusual to have so many anti-free speech posts on a /. thread, that's why.

    Wendy Seltzer is absolutely right. Her job ( as an academic lawyer involves comment on legal issues, and a corporation tried to stop her freely commenting on just such an issue because they didn't like the implied criticism. Normally when a lawyer stands up to the rich and powerful we cheer, not sneer. Dear astroturfers, football in all its varieties around the world thrives on corruption and dodgy business. No matter on what scale, people who try to clean up sport are working in the public interest. So now go back to your sad little PR jobs and fuck off, please

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  5. Re:Is she single? by an.echte.trilingue · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why is it that whenever a woman does anything noteworthy the first response here on slashdot is whether or not she is hot/doable/marryable, etc. What is wrong with you people? There is a post further down the page that says she looks like a man... and got modded funny! WTF? A couple days ago, a 17 year old girl won a 100,000 dollar science fair prize, and at least 1/3 of the comments were about whether she was hot or not. Most likely none of the readers here will ever see the woman in real life, so just what value do these comments have in the discussion?

    Imagine how these women feel if they read slashdot. Here they are, busting their asses to do something cool/good, they finally get some recognition, and the response is a debate on how nice her hips look or don't.

    If slashdot really does represent a cross section of the IT industry, I understand now why there are so few women in that industry.

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  6. Re:Is she single? by ShadeOfBlue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is this really that hard of a question? Guys like girls who have some common interests as well as being physically attractive. Ever notice how average Joe's start slobbering when they hear a hot chick likes to drink beer and watch NFL? Same thing with geeks, they dream of hot geeky girls. Now of course it's true most readers will never meet these women, most guys are never going to meet any Victoria's Secret models, but that hardly stops them from talking about how hot they consider them. Furthermore, while model-type women may represent a small percentage of the population, it's no great surprise to see one while out walking. Hot geeky girls, on the other hand, are much more elusive. A geek in a small town could easily go his whole life without meeting a HGG. As a student at a large public university, I've met 0 hot, seriously-geeky girls and a few hot, sorta-geeky girls.

    Just knowing such women are out there can be of major importance to a guy. If this kind of response really was the reason so few women are in the industry, it sure would seem to be a vicious-cycle. Scarcity of women -> slobbering response -> greater scarcity, and so on. However, genetic disposition and residual cultural restraints probably have a lot more to do with it.