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RIAA Caught in Tough Legal Situation

JeffreysTube writes "The RIAA's legal fight against a divorced mother has run into trouble, with the judge now telling the RIAA that its only two options are to proceed with a jury trial against Patty Santangelo or dismiss the case with prejudice. If the latter happens, Santangelo officially "wins" and could collect attorneys' fees. The judge is less than pleased with the RIAA, which is now trying to drop the case without giving Santangelo a chance to be declared guilty. 'This case is two years old,' wrote Judge McMahon. 'There has been extensive fact discovery. After taking this discovery, either plaintiffs want to make their case that Mrs. Santangelo is guilty of contributory copyright infringement or they do not.'"

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  1. I know you hate the RIAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    But they help us too. For instance, I own a record store, and my business faces ruin. CD sales have dropped through the floor. People aren't buying half as many CDs as they did just a year ago. Revenue is down and costs are up. My store has survived for years, but I now face the prospect of bankruptcy. Every day I ask myself why this is happening.

    I bought the store about 12 years ago. It was one of those boutique record stores that sell obscure, independent releases that no-one listens to, not even the people that buy them. I decided that to grow the business I'd need to aim for a different demographic, the family market. My store specialised in family music - stuff that the whole family could listen to. I don't sell sick stuff like Marilyn Manson or cop-killer rap, and I'm proud to have one of the most extensive Christian rock sections that I know of.

    The business strategy worked. People flocked to my store, knowing that they (and their children) could safely purchase records without profanity or violent lyrics. Over the years I expanded the business and took on more clean-cut and friendly employees. It took hard work and long hours but I had achieved my dream - owning a profitable business that I had built with my own hands, from the ground up. But now, this dream is turning into a nightmare.

    Every day, fewer and fewer customers enter my store to buy fewer and fewer CDs. Why is no one buying CDs? Are people not interested in music? Do people prefer to watch TV, see films, read books? I don't know. But there is one, inescapable truth - Internet piracy is mostly to blame. The statistics speak for themselves - one in three discs world wide is a pirate. On The Internet, you can find and download hundreds of dollars worth of music in just minutes. It has the potential to destroy the music industry, from artists, to record companies to stores like my own. Before you point to the supposed "economic downturn", I'll note that the book store just across from my store is doing great business. Unlike CDs, it's harder to copy books over The Internet.

    A week ago, an unpleasant experience with pirates gave me an idea. In my store, I overheard a teenage patron talking to his friend.

    "Dude, I'm going to put this CD on the Internet right away."

    "Yeah, dude, that's really lete [sic], you'll get lots of respect."

    I was fuming. So they were out to destroy the record industry from right under my nose? Fat chance. When they came to the counter to make their purchase, I grabbed the little shit by his shirt. "So...you're going to copy this to your friends over The Internet, punk?" I asked him in my best Clint Eastwood/Dirty Harry voice.

    "Uh y-yeh." He mumbled, shocked.

    "That's it. What's your name? You're blacklisted. Now take yourself and your little bitch friend out of my store - and don't come back." I barked. Cravenly, they complied and scampered off.

    So that's my idea - a national blacklist of pirates. If somebody cannot obey the basic rules of society, then they should be excluded from society. If pirates want to steal from the music industry, then the music industry should exclude them. It's that simple. One strike, and you're out - no reputable record store will allow you to buy another CD. If the pirates can't buy the CDS to begin with, then they won't be able to copy them over The Internet, will they? It's no different to doctors blacklisting drug dealers from buying prescription medicine.

    I have just written a letter to the RIAA outlining my proposal. Suing pirates one by one isn't going far enough. Not to mention pirates use the fact that they're being sued to unfairly portray themselves as victims. A national register of pirates would make the problem far easier to deal with. People would be encouraged to give the names of suspected pirates to a hotline, similar to TIPS. Once we know the size of the problem, the police and other law enforcement agencies will be forced to take piracy seriously. They have fought the War on Drugs with skill, so why not the

    1. Re:I know you hate the RIAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      I was fuming. So they were out to destroy the record industry from right under my nose? Fat chance. When they came to the counter to make their purchase, I grabbed the little shit by his shirt. "So...you're going to copy this to your friends over The Internet, punk?" I asked him in my best Clint Eastwood/Dirty Harry voice.

      "Uh y-yeh." He mumbled, shocked.

      "That's it. What's your name? You're blacklisted. Now take yourself and your little bitch friend out of my store - and don't come back." I barked. Cravenly, they complied and scampered off.

      You self-absorbed motherfucking piece of shit, I hope the kid and his witness friend have their parents sue your goddamned business into the ground for battery. You talk about your shit Christian music and bullshit family values, then commit felony battery on a minor because you object to someone's exercise of free speech. Kiss my asshole, you self-righteous hypocrite.

      They have fought the War on Drugs with skill,....

      Holy fucking shit, I thought you might be serious up to this point, but you obviously think the war on drugs has been a success. It follows that you think the war in Iraq is a moment of blazing glory in the history of the US. What a load of horseshit.

      Now take yourself and your little bitch friend ....

      You do keep your fire insurance current, right? Talk to my daughter that way and you'll wish you'd gone into the dental prosthetic business.

      I just shook my head, and tried to hold back the tears. "I don't know, Jenny. I don't know."

      You made your bed; now you and the slut Jenny can goddamned well lie in it, you fucking vigilante bastard.

    2. Re:I know you hate the RIAA by ajs318 · · Score: -1, Troll

      Well, if you take the view that "christian" can be a synonym for "arsehole", or can mean "devoid of one or more of what are usually considered to be the defining qualities of the genre" (as in "christian rock music") then it is, indeed, very christian of him.

      "Christian" can also mean psychotic. This may take the form either of mild delusions of an imaginary friend protecting them and/or causing things to happen, aggravated by the cognitive dissonance inherent in such delusions; or of total whackjob sociopathy wherein one actively persuades others to follow a lifestyle on the pretence that failure to do so will result in unspecified punishment.

      Religion is basically just a crutch that helps people get through the day. Which wouldn't be too bad, in and of itself; we're all fucked-up in our own different ways. Everyone needs a helping hand sometimes. Some people drink, some people smoke, some people take drugs, some people pretend to be small furry animals. Others get religion. But you never hear an alcoholic saying that sober people are going to suffer eternal punishment; you never hear a pot-head saying that non-smokers are going to be damned; and nobody ever says that if you don't pretend to be a small furry animal then you'll suffer from the day you die till the end of the world. There's only one crutch that the people who use it are so weak, they have to try to ram it down everybody else's throat to make themselves look a bit less fucked-up than they really are.

      The best advice I can give you is: Keep as far away from christians as you would keep from anyone else who worships a serial killer.

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      Je fume. Tu fumes. Nous fûmes!
    3. Re:I know you hate the RIAA by Runefox · · Score: 0, Troll

      Perhaps instead of trying to force an antiquated medium on the general public, you'd offer a service wherein you would provide, for a fee, a DRM'ed copy of the CD's contents for use in portable players/etc? It's a well-known fact that CD's both scratch and outright break easily, and digital backups are often much more useful in terms of longevity, especially since they're much, much smaller than a CD.

      While DRM sucks, it's the "legal" way to do it, and therefore, you're covering your ass. And if it's anything like the games industry, there's no money in it for retailers, anyway, and any extra dollars you can make by providing an actual service might be a good idea.

      That said, the War on Drugs was far from successful, and I'm not sure if that post is actually even serious.

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      Screw the rules, I have green hair!
    4. Re:I know you hate the RIAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Wow, you're stupid.