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France Opens Secret UFO Files

Radon360 notes that France has become the first country to open its files on UFOs. A new website lists over 1600 sightings dating back to the 1950s. "The online archives, which will be updated as new cases are reported, catalogues in minute detail cases ranging from the easily dismissed to a handful that continue to perplex even hard-nosed scientists. Known as OVNIs in French, UFOs have always generated intense interest along with countless conspiracy theories about secretive government cover-ups of findings deemed too sensitive or alarming for public consumption."

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  1. "France has become the first country..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Radon360 notes that France has become the first country to open its files on UFOs.

    Because Radon360 is a twat.

    May 2006:
    http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/FreedomOfInforma tion/PublicationScheme/SearchPublicationScheme/Uni dentifiedAerialPhenomenauapInTheUkAirDefenceRegion .htm

  2. Re:Moi by BlueTrin · · Score: 4, Informative

    You say:
    Donnez une bonne note au parent (there's no literal translation for mod up)

    or

    Votez pour le parent (implied that it is up)

    *Waiting for the freedom fries lovers to mod me down* :)

    --
    Don't you know it is now both immoral and criminal to think beyond the next quarterly report?
  3. Re:Moi by dmayle · · Score: 4, Informative

    <Offtopic>Ok, I won't go into how bad that French is...</Offtopic>

    It's OVNI for Objets Volants Non-Identifié. But the reason I'm posting is that I wanted to point out that this has been released by CNES, which is kind of like NASA in France. Not quite, as it's more of an educational institution, but it's very similar nonetheless...

  4. A better translation and masters by Lord+Satri · · Score: 4, Informative

    Surprised by the bad translations in the comments, here's a more appropriate one (no, online translation tools are not as good as humans): Je, quant à moi, souhaite la bienvenue à nos nouveaux maîtres OVNIs.

    Additionally, it's not "secoupe volante" pour rather "soucoupe volante" (flying saucer) (see other comment on parent). And if they wanted to be our masters and already made contact, since they would have the technology to reach us, I guess they'd already be our masters. (well, looking at our politicians' behavior, maybe they already are! ;-)

  5. Re:its a matter of point of view by Oligonicella · · Score: 3, Informative

    Love the link. It reminds me of the dumb crap I bought into at age 12.

    Equation: N = R* fp ne fl fi fc L

    This is followed by an explanation of the 'variables' and the sentence "Most of these have not altered to any significant degree since that conference in 1961."

    Wow! Talk about disingenuous. fp is changing as we get new pictures. Planetary systems are thought common instead of fairly rare as in '61. The rest are a joke.

    ne (planets suitable for life) - unknown, we can't examine the small planets yet.
    fl (planets with life) - unknown, we can't examine the small planets yet.
    fi (those with intelligence) - unknowable.
    fc (those with radio) - unknowable.
    L (lifetime of advanced races)- unknowable.

    Lessee, that's five of seven that are unknown and three of those cannot in any reasonable stretch of the imagination even be known. Great equation.

    Well, they follow that with a lame caveat:
    "Values for some of these parameters are, of course, open to considerable disagreement..."

    Following that are the explanations for the current set of values. This is filled with such gems as (for fi and fc) "however many researchers of the topic agree 0.01". First, there are no researchers on this topic. Research cannot be done on this topic. What the author means is "however, many geeks during parlor talk fervently believe that 0.01". Not the same thing as science. Not a value to be used in anything but a parlor game.

    L is another good example. They're just using the length of our civilization with nukes. That's right. They consider us to be the average for the lifetime of advanced civilizations. Our one known example is used to average a galaxies worth of possible civilizations. Utter drek.

    This is what happens when dried scientists try to get sexy with parlor talk.

  6. Re:French Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't the French been called surrender monkeys since WW2? I know that Iraq is what folks want to focus most recently when it comes to France, but certain reputations have been around for a lot longer.