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Serious Magnet Failure at CERN's New Accelerator

GrepNut writes "CERN is reporting that the giant magnets that steer the particle beam in the new and highly anticipated Large Hadron Collider have just failed catastrophically in a stress test, apparently due to a design oversight. It doesn't help that the magnets were designed and built by CERN's US competitor Fermilab." While safety precautions were followed, and no one was injured nor were any rifts in the space-time continuum opened, it's still a rather large setback for the project.

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  1. Back at Fermilab by dduardo · · Score: 0, Troll

    Scientists: Muhahahaha, that will teach those Europeans.

    1. Re:Back at Fermilab by Kensai7 · · Score: 0, Troll

      From 1998 to 2002, Fermilab conducted four engineering reviews of the magnets by experts from Fermilab, other US national laboratories and CERN. The reviews do not appear to have addressed these asymmetric loads. Tests at Fermilab were done on single magnets where such loads do not develop.


      I get it, I get it! I presume these magnets are "export" versions as those faulty F16s Americans sell us Europeans now and then. :)
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  2. FiRstt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
  3. Got what they deserved by smchris · · Score: -1, Troll

    Don't these people know the 6+ mile Boston "Big Dig" with only 2+ miles under the harbor has so-far cost almost as much as the 31-mile Chunnel? That they faked the books to hide substandard materials, it leaks like a sieve, and a chunk has already fallen loose and killed a motorist? It's just becoming an American tradition post-Challenger/Hubble/Star Wars that you got paid to do it multiple times until you get it right.

    What were they thinking contracting one of the most important components to Americans?

    1. Re:Got what they deserved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      What he says is exactly right - you might not like the message, but that doesn't make it wrong...

      They never should have gotten the Americans involved. Period.

  4. Re:moron by nearlygod · · Score: 0, Troll

    What the hell is your problem? I didn't realize that jokes had been banned from slashdot... or did you just not get it?

    nearlygod

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  5. Moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
  6. Re:moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Also, I hate the jews. nearlygod

  7. Re:moron by nearlygod · · Score: -1, Troll

    You're a dick.

    nearlygod

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  8. Re:moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    By the way, please visit my porno site for homosexuals with downs syndrome, "The Tools of Ignorants".

    nearlygod

  9. Re:moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    "or did you just not get it?"

    It just wasn't all that funny

    Before I wrote this post, I took a look at your post history. It appears that you are not just 'unfunny', but it seems that people don't think you are interesting, insightful either.

  10. No pictures, no interviews, no names by heroine · · Score: 0, Troll

    At least when NASA has a problem, they photograph it and show it to the readers. The lack of pictures, interviews, and names in the CERN press release is incredible. It is quite a different culture than we're used to.

  11. Re:worst case scenario by guruevi · · Score: -1, Troll

    The difference is that the closest black hole in the universe is lightyears away (at least that is the current conception) and the universe seems to be balanced out perfectly so all the dangerous stuff that is floating around doesn't consume the whole universe. It's a careful setup of universal laws that keep it together, just like the ecosystem on earth did for thousands of years. Human's in their everlasting quest for knowledge and other 'enrichment' seems to be consistent in messing things up that work perfectly and make it a dangerous object. It happens at home when the man of the house thinks he can fix his own brakes and then seems to be messing around with it for several hours to the collection of us sentient beings messing up all types of natural systems including our own food and other supply chains (water, air, ...)

    So that is why people don't trust scientists creating miniature black holes too close to their homes. First of all, we don't know what it is going to do (that's why it's called an experiment) and when we're messing around with atoms and other building blocks, we have always messed up to start off with (nuclear energy, first appliance was a bomb. Geneticly modified food, seems to be not so healthy after all)

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  12. Re:Anti US Slant by morcego · · Score: -1, Troll

    Did CERN provide specific requirements for asymetric load bearing capacity? If there were no requirements provided to Fermilab, then it would seem to me to be a problem at the CERN end.


    You see, this is the kind of "thinking" that really piss me off.

    I'm pretty sure CERN didn't specific a requirement that the system should not turn into molten peanut butter is someone in a red dress walked by. But if that happened, Fermilab would have screwed up. No one is asking the system works under completely unrelated uses or circumstances here.

    The project was not assigned for John Doe assembly line (which usually builds hair spray cans). It was assigned to someone that should (under reasonably expectations) know what they were doing.
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