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The Imagined Future of PC Games

PC Gamer has up a five-part series prognosticating the future of PC gaming. (part 2, part 3, part 4, part 5) Graham Smith, Kieron Gillen, and a few other PC games folks make some big-picture predictions about where console gaming's aging sibling is headed. Some of their predictions are fairly safe ("6. The mouse won't die, and graphics cards will get more powerful."), but others may be a bit contentious: "4. Steam and similar services will crush PC piracy. There's been a lot of talk from developers - old rivals id and Epic chief among them - about piracy making it harder for them to justify developing PC-only games. There's so little profit in it, apparently, that the poor fellows are left with no choice but to stray from their beloved home-platform and develop for consoles too. And yet the only games out there with a zero percent piracy ratio are all PC-only: MMOGs. They have a headstart in the anti-piracy crusade: connecting to a central server is an integral part of the game, so verifying that the user's CD key is unique can be done without much fuss. And no one's going to complain that a MMOG requires an internet connection; that's pretty obvious from the concept itself."

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  1. Hmm, a serial and a central server . . . by Maradine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And yet the only games out there with a zero percent piracy ratio are all PC-only: MMOGs. They have a headstart in the anti-piracy crusade: connecting to a central server is an integral part of the game, so verifying that the user's CD key is unique can be done without much fuss.

    Not all MMO's have been PC-only (and of those, there has been piracy, PSO anyone?). Further, I'd argue that connecting to a central server with a CD key is not proof against piracy. Finally, the primary financial outlay surrounding an MMO is purchased time, not software.

    Don't get me wrong, the pressures facing the PC side of the industry are very real. But if we're talking about means-to-profit, piracy is not the main threat that the MMO's face by a long shot. As with many things, the fulcrum is much lower elsewhere . . . account phishing and gold farming are by-and-large the most profitable way to attack the system.

    I'm also very curious about the implied assertion that game piracy has been licked in the console world.

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    1. Re:Hmm, a serial and a central server . . . by anduz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We just want to see another game like X-COM. And hopefully we will with http://www.ufo-extraterrestrials.com/ - yeah it's an add and I feel dirty, but you'd think that someone talking about wanting a spiritual sequal to the x-com series would at least bother to do a quick google search before publishing the article. :P

    2. Re:Hmm, a serial and a central server . . . by paeanblack · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Further, I'd argue that connecting to a central server with a CD key is not proof against piracy.

      It's not about "connecting to a central server" that fights piracy, it's changing the payment scheme to a method that gives both parties an incentive to play fair. I think a pay-to-play scheme will win in the long run on simple economic efficiency.

      Option A) Player pays full fare up-front for a bug-ridden game and assumes developer will release patches in the future.
      Option B) Player pirates enhanced version (no DRM) and developer holds their breath awaiting payment for inferior copy.
      Option C) Player and developer engage in ongoing tit-for-tat, exchanging partial payments for patches and additional content.

      The first two options both have several variants and variables, such as demos, brand reputation, extra box goodies, lawsuits, delayed purchases, etc., but all of those will either increase cost-of-entry or decrease market efficiency. In both of the first two cases, one party must pay extra to counterbalance the incentive for the other party to shirk, a perverse incentive inherent in the payment schemes.

      With option C, the player provides a constant revenue stream for as long as they are interested in the game. The developer uses that revenue to maintain player interest as long as it is profitable. This has occurred historically with expansion packs to games, but it was not until widespread broadband availability that the system was sufficiently fluid to handle small incremental tits-and-tats with efficiency. XBox Live has really pushed forward in this direction with their point system.

      The only thing special about MMORPGs and low piracy is that they fall more naturally into Option C, where there is less economic incentive for piracy.

    3. Re:Hmm, a serial and a central server . . . by CronoCloud · · Score: 2, Informative

      Given that the PS2 memory card only holds 8MB, EQOA can't have had much added content, so it can hardly count.


      Shows what you know. The DVD the game came on had tones of unused content, so all they had to do was basically turn it on. Adding new quests and NPC's was also possible. For big stuff, they just released a new DVD, that was EQOA: Frontiers. Which is the version still in use.

      As for FFXI, given that the PS2 hasn't supported a hard drive for at least the last three years, I think it's safe to ignore it too.


      The game came out in 2004, the full size PS2's were still available. It came out earlier in Japan where it is the preferred platform for playing it. It also can be installed on a PS3 in a partition on the HD setup for PS2 games that support the HD, that's a new feature in the PS3 firmware. Full size PS2's are still available in the used market too, anyone who wants one can get one.

      But we can rephrase it to be "name a popular MMORPG". Next-gen consoles might be capable of supporting a full PC-style MMORPG, but it's clear the PS2 gen wasn't.


      So, why do you get to decide what to ignore. I pointed out two full PC style MMORPG's on a past generation console (FFXI has a PC version too, all players on all versions play on the same servers) and you say they can be ignored?

      the "MMORPG" style games on consoles don't have the subscription and continued updates that the article is suggesting stops piracy.


      That was the original quote, and I proved it wrong, both EQOA and FFXI have updates to this day and subscription fees.
    4. Re:Hmm, a serial and a central server . . . by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not all MMO's have been PC-only (and of those, there has been piracy, PSO anyone?). Further, I'd argue that connecting to a central server with a CD key is not proof against piracy. Finally, the primary financial outlay surrounding an MMO is purchased time, not software.

      I agree about the primary financial outlay, and I think games like EVE Online are doing the smart thing by allowing free download of the client, free trial period and eliminating box sales altogether.

      This way, you can check if you like the game without much hassle, but if you want to stay you need a paid up account. Easy to get into, but not so easy to get around the payment.
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    5. Re:Hmm, a serial and a central server . . . by the_bard17 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For several months after FFXI came out, the majority of my coworkers (numbering around 20) were into FFXI pretty heavily.

      My point? If you're standing in the forest, and most of the trees you're seeing are pine, doesn't mean the rest of the forest is pine, too.

      On the other hand, FFXI only lasted for those several months... then they moved on to other games.

  2. The Difference is... by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're playing a MMO than you're wanting to be playing online. Paying for a game that you're playing alone and it still requires a high speed internet connection is just asinine. All they'll do in the long run is push more folks to consoles where they don't have to put up with that.

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    1. Re:The Difference is... by Baldrake · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd much prefer an online check to the current situation of having to keep track of and swap CD's all the time.

  3. Piracy Evolves as Anti-Piracy Evolves by vertigoCiel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am reminded of Douglas Adam's Electronic Thumb from HHTTG: half the electrical engineers in the galaxy are working on fresh ways of jamming the signals, and the other half are working on fresh ways to jam the jamming signals. There are ways to get around CD-key authorization besides using someone elses - I believe that people have already found a way to disable the Registration request in the Adobe CS3 beta, by deleting the file that reminds CS3 it still needs a registration number. Piracy is only realy a wide-spread problem after games are succesful enough to be widely pirated - otherwise it's too hard for the average user to find a pirated copy. By this point, the game has made enough revenue to be profitable. It's just the publisher's constant desire for insane profits that forces devs to move to consoles.

    1. Re:Piracy Evolves as Anti-Piracy Evolves by Osty · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Piracy is only realy a wide-spread problem after games are succesful enough to be widely pirated - otherwise it's too hard for the average user to find a pirated copy. By this point, the game has made enough revenue to be profitable.

      Unless you're id, Epic, or other big-name developers and publishers, in which case your reputation in the market is enough for people to pirate your game on day one (or day zero, even), robbing you of that profitable "build-up to success".

      IMHO, the solution is not to keep fighting fire with fire. Instead, it's to get into a different game. MMOs are one example. Another example would be similar to what Stardock does. When you buy Galactic Civilizations 2, there is no DRM at all. Instead, you get a serial number that entitles you to game updates. This wouldn't work at all for a typical EA game ("punt it out the door and start working on next year's version"), but it works great for smaller developers with a loyal fanbase. The game of GalCiv2 as it stands today is quite a bit different from how it shipped about a year ago, but if you pirate the game you would not have access to any of those game updates. Also, I'm not talking about intentionally leaving in bugs or any of that crap. You ship as good of a game as you can, and then you support it through its lifetime with feature enhancements (GalCiv2 AI or ship builder enhancements, for example).

  4. We don't need servers, we need napkins by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not all MMO's have been PC-only

    Exactly. WoW is PC and Mac. Spore will run on Wii, DS, and PC - altho it's a bit of a Massively Multi-Instance Multi-Player Online-Library Game.

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  5. Steam-Like Services *WILL* Save PC Gaming by p0tat03 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to be a huge critic of Steam and its related services, but I've warmed up to the idea over time.

    As a softdev (and a small-time indie game dev) I have a hard time justifying piracy, and since I've made the moral choice to buy the software I use, it's hit my pocketbooks pretty hard, but it's a decision I am glad to live with. Most of my colleagues are not so conscious, I'm afraid, and most would buy a PC game if it's CD-key locked and the game was all about multiplayer (CS, BF2, etc), but almost none would ever buy a singleplayer game.

    In other words, the concept that developers should just intrinsically *trust* the gamer to be moral and buy the game is hogwash. There may be a number of gamers like myself who strive to pirate as little as possible (if at all), but the majority of the world isn't so dev-friendly. I welcome (legal and reasonable) ways to protect developer content.

    Additionally, I'm also a huge singleplayer gamer. I loved games like Deus Ex, Half-Life, and the new C&C3, which I bought mostly for the campaign mode (and it is excellent, btw). Many developers are eschewing singleplayer games in favour of multiplayer-only games, due to the fact that the multiplayer-ness easily lends itself to better piracy protection. This leaves gamers like me out in the cold. It is also why I believe, despite the evils of the technology, we must live with it if we are to see more singleplayer content being developed in this world.

    Just my 2c.

    1. Re:Steam-Like Services *WILL* Save PC Gaming by yoyhed · · Score: 3, Informative

      I tend to think comments about Steam's "poor execution" reek of 2004, when it actually did suck and was in beta. I just started Steam, and it took all of 5 seconds, and now it's sitting in my tray using 3MB of RAM and 0% CPU.

      All you have to do is click the arrow on the upper-right to make it use the "old" interface, which is what I prefer anyway. Then set your Favorite Window to Games in Settings. Voila, every time you start Steam, it'll only go to the old-style games window, which is fast, and as you can see above, not resource intensive.

      I will admit every once in a great while it'll do an automatic update or something, which does use CPU. But I wouldn't call it a resource hog, unless you're still on a Pentium II with 256MB of RAM. I'm running an Athlon 64 4000+, which nowadays is in the $90 range on Newegg.

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  6. My prediction: Enviroment by EnsilZah · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One thing they didn't mention and i think is going to be important is more malleable environments.
    I think this trend was mostly started by HL2's Gravgun, and we're going to see some significant advances in physics and materials in the next few years.
    The two best examples i can think of right now are the upcoming Crysis and Star Wars: Force Unleashed.
    Sure, attempts like Red Faction didn't do very well, but i think it's time.

  7. Re:M$ Games for windows forceing you to pay for mo by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not only bad, it may not be smart. Counterstrike was a fan-created mod which revolutionized the industry. Neverwinter Nights was great because so many people made modules for it. I think we'll see developers looking for ways to leverage user-created content. YouTube wouldn't be worth billions if no one uploaded anything to it.

  8. They said WHAT!? by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did they really say that DRM will save gaming on the PC? Are they insane?

    Let's be honest, here. Steam is simply DRM with some sugar stuffed around it to make people like it. And it's even broken, already. I've seen quite a few steam-rips out there.

    How in the world will an already-failed DRM save PC Gaming?

    No, instead, good GAMES are needed to save PC Gaming. Assuming it needs saving at all. Maybe the reason that gaming has been steadily moving back to consoles is because it works better there. The controls and basic interface are familiar, there's no worries about your particular brand of hardware working with the game, the DRM doesn't often bite you, etc. With the exception of a few games that really do play better with mouse and keyboard, consoles have PCs beat. And they are cheaper. Even if you buy them all.

    A couple years ago, I'd have laughed in your face if you said I'd prefer console gaming now. But with power of the XBox 360 (and PS3, theoretically... wish they'd go ahead and make a good game for it) and the innovative interface of the Wii, I rarely game on the PC now. Enough so that I am back using Kubuntu as my main OS because I rarely feel the need to be in Windows.

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    1. Re:They said WHAT!? by bigforearms · · Score: 2

      I gotta disagree with you on a couple of points.

      First, I'd say the interface is more familiar on the PC. The interface hardware pretty much never changes, and even the typical command button mapping is pretty uniform across titles in a genre (e.g., most FPS have similar WASD setups, even to the point where common weapons like shotguns are frequently mapped to the same number across titles).

      Second, it's not just a few games that play better on the PC, it's several genres. Strategy games (both RTS and non) are unplayable on consoles. FPSs I'd say the same thing about, but apparently the simpler ones have made leeway into the market. Tactical FPSs like the Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon series are heavily dumbed down when they're ported to consoles. RPGs are playable on both, but the computer generally has a very strong advantage in that most RPGs for the PC nowadays are heavily moddable. I don't think they even bother trying to port decent flight sims to consoles.

      Third, they're not always cheaper. Most of us need a computer for something or another, so if your main box doubles as your gaming box, the appropriate way to look at it is how much more you spent on the gaming box than what you would have needed. If all you do is word process and surf the Internet, you can get by great with a $500 computer. If you want to game, you can put together something modest for about $200 more than that, or a very good system for $600 more (the cost of a PS3).

      Not saying PCs are absolutely better or that consoles don't have their upsides as well, but it's not as clear-cut an issue for everyone.

    2. Re:They said WHAT!? by LarsWestergren · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Did they really say that DRM will save gaming on the PC? Are they insane? Let's be honest, here. Steam is simply DRM with some sugar stuffed around it to make people like it.

      In stores, they usually only stock a few titles, the most popular ones. Short shelf life means developers bet on safe cards, which means (in my opinion) boring games. If developers can sell online (not necessarily through Steam) they can reach a bigger market cheaper, and consumers can get games later. I personally have bough Psychonauts and Bookworm adventures online the last month, and I plan to buy many more.

      Maybe the reason that gaming has been steadily moving back to consoles is because it works better there.

      When gaming magazines release the latest sales figures and people go "omg pc gaming is dying!", remember none of these sales numbers (that I've seen so far) include:
      1) Online sales. That's right. Steam, Popcap games, Gametap, Three Rings Net and so on, are not included. Neither is the money poured into MMO subscriptions. If you include those, I think the total amount spent on PC gaming industry is probably larger than the market for any single console.
      2) International sales, where PC sales are stronger.

      With the exception of a few games that really do play better with mouse and keyboard, consoles have PCs beat.

      Not if you want deep strategy games or simulation games, non-linear western RPGs, or if you want to play MMOs, or if you want to add your own mods or content like in NWN/NWN2, or if you want to play decades of games from dozens of platforms through emulators...

      And they are cheaper.

      Most people need a PC in their homes anyway, so spending a little bit extra on a better graphics card is not that big a deal. Besides, with the costs of the latest generation, some people are questioning whether consoles are cheaper at all.

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    3. Re:They said WHAT!? by autocrawler · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The controls and basic interface are familiar, there's no worries about your particular brand of hardware working with the game, the DRM doesn't often bite you, etc. With the exception of a few games that really do play better with mouse and keyboard, consoles have PCs beat. And they are cheaper. Even if you buy them all. Price should most definitely be NOT the only factor that determines your choice of a gaming platform, at least not if you consider gaming your hobby. As far a I am personally concerned, I won't be leaving PC gaming as long as gaming-oriented hardware continues to be released for the PC.

      A couple years ago, I'd have laughed in your face if you said I'd prefer console gaming now. But with power of the XBox 360 (and PS3, theoretically... wish they'd go ahead and make a good game for it) and the innovative interface of the Wii, I rarely game on the PC now. The previous generation, it was the "power of the PS2!". Guess what, the cycle repeats each time. PCs had to catch up to the PS2 for a few years back then, this time, PCs outperformed the 360 right off the bat. Every release simply looks prettier, and plays better on the PC, and starting with Crysis the PC will start getting unique experiences that are impossible to replicate on the current generation of consoles, simply due to their technical limitations. Myself, I've played, what, three retail titles and a couple of XBLA releases on my 360 since I bought it? I play PC games daily, and yet my 360 is just sitting there collecting dust since I got through Castlevania. My gaming rig has overtaken the console's place near the TV so that I can comfortably play PC games from a couch. Also, just to say, while I am not denying that Wii's controls are unique to the platform, PC modders have been hard at work adapting the Wiimote for use in PC games. We already can see some of the results, like the Half Life 2 Wiimote Mod which just went into public beta stage. And over time, we'll be seeing more and more exciting stuff like that which blends the two platforms' strengths together.
  9. More to it than DRM by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Being able to impulse-buy a game and have it playable either in a few minutes or in a day or so is a huge deal. Also isn't bad getting periodic updates (HDR for Half-Life 2 and CS:S).

    As for DRM biting you... I've lost, scratched, and otherwise killed game discs, and on a console, that's it, no more game for you. On Steam, just re-download and reinstall -- or burn a backup DVD, or whatever.

    I don't like the DRM either, and I won't make excuses for that -- technologically, it sucks, too, as does anything that requires IE to play a game. But it is actually a good idea, and it works very well.

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  10. Lockout chip business model by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With the exception of a few games that really do play better with mouse and keyboard, consoles have PCs beat. And they are cheaper. Even if you buy them all. What about games by microstudios, which the console makers have historically ignored for the last couple decades? Among the current consoles (PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii), only the PLAYSTATION 3 is open enough out of the box to let a microstudio self-publish, and a self-published game runs under Linux with no access to even 2D acceleration.
  11. Piracy, right... more like too many mediocre games by blahplusplus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Piracy, right... more like too many games, and too many mediocre games at that. The truth is there is simply way too many games for the market to support @ 50+ dollars a pop, then add in MMO's with their subscriptions and everything else and you have perfect storm. Next many games offer nothing new, why should gamers buy games that are simply upgraded rehashes? Game developers only have themselves to blame in their quest of chasing their expensive technolust tastes. The truth is the game industry is the cause of their lack of profit... let's see where the game industry went wrong...

    1) While the game market has expanded, it hasn't expanded to keep up with development costs of high fidelity graphics that the industry is chasing.

    2) Game industry did itself in, gamers do not control where money is invested, nor what it produces, gamers do not control any of the financial aspects of where money is spent in development (graphics vs. gameplay).

    3) Capitalism and designing a good game do not always mix well, with it rubs up against the economic model of society. The more time you spend working on a game 99% of the time the better it will be, if you're independently wealthy or have connections like certain figures in the game industry you can take your sweet time. But the drive for short-term profit over long-term gains has been an emerging problem in the game industry since the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube.

    The whole industry right now is suffering since gameplay is getting stale and more games sell based on graphics then gameplay. I was never sure that the game industries model was very stable in many respects. It's built on the whims of a customer base which is not only difficult to understand but is just too diverse to pigeonhole with terms like "hardcore gamer" vs "casual gamer", next add in the mad rush for profits and you get a glut of mediocre games. I wouldn't be surprised of gaming slows down (Tanks) for a bit in the future but as long as their are fresh bodies without gaming experience (new kids being born) they may just be able to keep getting away with rehash city.

  12. Re:Hopefully... by CronoCloud · · Score: 2, Informative

    Which games did you try using a console controller with? Personally I find that the controller works better for those FPS's (and third person shooters) that were designed with the console in mind, and not as well with ports of PC FPS's. For example I have no problem with using a Dual Shock with say SOCOM or Star Wars Battlefront, but with the PSone port of Quake II I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with it. So I plugged in the PSone mouse. When I play games like Deus Ex or Half-Life on the PS2, I plug in a USB optical wireless mouse. But I still move with the stick. I can't stand keyboard movement in action games, ugh I couldn't stand it back in the 80's and I can't stand it now.. I loathe WASD. Using the dual shock combined with a mouse may seem kludgy but it works well, for me anyway.

    As for MMORPG's I played EQOA and FFXI on te PS2 before I quit because I couldn't justify paying the monthly fee for games I couldn't devote the necessary time to.

    Serious players of EQOA and FFXI had keyboards. In EQOA the keyboard was used mostly for chat, you could control the game entirely with it but no one did because moving and camera adjusting worked better with the dual shock.

    In FFXI, PS2 players mostly used their keyboards for chat and macros and again, movement was easier with the dual shock. Not even the PC players used their mice very much and most of them acknowledged that having a dual shock style controller for the game was a necessity.

  13. Steam is not DRM by Enderandrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To say that Steam is the future of PC gaming is fairly true. To say that Steam directly equals DRM is not.

    DRM is a means to strongly limit your right to use something you purchase, to the point of suggesting that you don't really own it.

    Steam will allow you to download your content to multiple computers, and freely play your content.

    Most music DRM schemes limit your ability to copy your music, or play it on whatever hardware you choose.

    Steam is first and foremost a means of digital distribution to skip the distribution middle-man.

    Game development costs have skyrocketed, game developers are working more hours for less money, and yet while our expectations rise, our desire to pay more for games has not risen. Something has to give, and many truly great gaming companies have gone to the wayside.

    If digital distribution puts more money into the hands of the developer, keeps overall costs down, allows me to purchase a game without leaving my house, install on multiple PCs without even looking for disks, etc. etc. etc., then it is certainly more of a blessing than a curse.

    I'm all for digital distribution.

    Is Steam perfect? No. But it was largely the first venture in the market, and it is a step in the right direction.

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  14. Re:It won't be cross-platform... by Agret · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Source engine is DirectX only. Steam uses Internet Explorer -- I believe for large chunks of the interface, and also for the MOTD on CS:Source servers.

    So? Valve is a publisher & Steam is a distribution network, it's got nothing to do with the Source engine being DirectX.

    Valve can replace the Internet Explorer control with the Mozilla control for a linux port. CS:Source is irrelevant as it won't run on Linux natively anyway.

    There are titles on there that do have native Linux binaries -- Darwinia, for instance, has a Steam release, but you can also buy it from their website, which gives you 3 downloads each, completely un-DRM'd, of the Windows and Linux versions (Mac version is published by a third-party shop that did the port).

    Exactly, the Linux version could be distributed through the Linux port of Steam....

    Personally, I'd like to re-implement Steam, but the way I want to do it is complete overkill, and not going to happen soon.

    Care to detail that at all?
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  15. Re:Hopefully... by autocrawler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sorry, but I'll take your presumed "terribleness" of PC gaming over the sterile, fully proprietary console gaming.

  16. If only games where not so expensive... by master_p · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Perhaps if games were not so expensive, we wouldn't get in trouble to find, download and install pirated games.

    Having to pay 60 euros for Half Life 2, for example, is unacceptable, in my opinion. If it was 20 euros, I wouldn't even consider the pirated version.

    If you think that the price of 20 euros is illogical, then you should consider that Valve spent 6 years rebuilding the game twice. Why should I have to pay for Valve's engineers having fun and not doing their jobs? Half Life 1 had more content and more substance, and it was delivered in far less time. The price of 60 euros for HL2 does not reflect its real price, also considering that the gameplay is maximum 30 hours (which means that the average gamer can beat the game in a few days).

    And since you are indie developer, here are some news for you: games with equal or less gameplay than Space Invaders do not worth more than 1 euro. There are 100s of indie shops out there, all producing games with gameplay seen before a 100 million times, only with a little bit more flashier graphics that do not usually fit in with the game's context. Why should we buy them, just for playing out 10 minutes?

    Perhaps a better model would be to be able to rent a game for a couple of days. Movies in DVD format cost 1 euro per day, for 120 minutes of fun. Movies can be copied/downloaded just as easily as games, yet the movie industry does not say that they are about to collapse due to piracy...and that is because they have find a better market model, one that suits people better.